Diff between P4C800 and P4P800?

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Hugh Jass

Hi,

Isent my P4P800 in cause it wouldn't start after 6 months or so of perfect
operation. Today I received a new board, P4C800 which I stuck in box and
it seems to work - I didn't have much time to check it out.

I see they are different chipsets, but what is the result of that
difference? Hopefully the same memory will work, at leat it is booting now.

It looks like the RAID thing is "new" and I see some kind of voice thing?

Who can tell me in a short post what I got - is it better? Worse? Apples
and oranges?

tia
 
Hugh Jass said:
Hi,

Isent my P4P800 in cause it wouldn't start after 6 months or so of perfect
operation. Today I received a new board, P4C800 which I stuck in box and
it seems to work - I didn't have much time to check it out.
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If that's the case then you got a more expensive board as a result.
I see they are different chipsets, but what is the result of that
difference? Hopefully the same memory will work, at leat it is booting
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now.

Check the ASUS website. Generally P4C has "official" PAT while the P4P still
supports it unofficially on ASUS boards at least.
It looks like the RAID thing is "new" and I see some kind of voice thing?
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P4C800 has Promise RAID, P4P800 (Deluxe) has VIA RAID. To be honest I prefer
the VIA RAID, as you can use it as a standard ATA133 controller.
Who can tell me in a short post what I got - is it better? Worse? Apples
and oranges?
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P4C also has a Intel Gigabit Lan which is better than the 3Com Gigabit Lan
(which is PCI based rather than CSA).

Apart from that, not really many differences. About equal performance and
features.
 
Darkfalz said:
If that's the case then you got a more expensive board as a result.

now.

Check the ASUS website. Generally P4C has "official" PAT while the P4P still
supports it unofficially on ASUS boards at least.
thing?

P4C800 has Promise RAID, P4P800 (Deluxe) has VIA RAID. To be honest I prefer
the VIA RAID, as you can use it as a standard ATA133 controller.
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You can do this on the P4C800-E Deluxe Promise RAID
 
Guardian said:
You can do this on the P4C800-E Deluxe Promise RAID
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Someone told me you couldn't, but I'll take your word for it. People also
say the VIA controller is shit and uses up a ton of CPU, but that was
bullshit too.
 
P4C800 has Promise RAID, P4P800 (Deluxe) has VIA RAID. To be honest I
prefer the VIA RAID, as you can use it as a standard ATA133 controller.
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My old board was not deluxe or any other modifying letter or suffix, just
P4P800. Boy that ASUS website is a classic design with everything you need
but the most frustrating navigation ever. I only go there from time to
time (in need of help) but I always fall into the download->help that
defines what downloading is. I finally guessed the ftp directory and
downloaded the Chinese version of the Manual (and then found the English.)

The plate that goes on the back board connections (from my old board) is
wrong at the USB, I see that difference, 8 USB2 connectors.

thx for the info
 
Darkfalz said:
Someone told me you couldn't, but I'll take your word for it. People also
say the VIA controller is shit and uses up a ton of CPU, but that was
bullshit too.
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According to the manual you can use the Promise RAID controller as a regular
ATA133 controller, just not for ATAPI devices. I think that this is pretty
much true for the majority of RAID solutions isn't it?
 
The P4C800 is a newer, faster, more stable motherboard that uses the Intel
875 chipset. The P4P800 used the Intel 865 chipset.
 
The Dovel King said:
According to the manual you can use the Promise RAID controller as a regular
ATA133 controller, just not for ATAPI devices. I think that this is pretty
much true for the majority of RAID solutions isn't it?
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Probably, this is the first one I've owned.
 
DaveW said:
The P4C800 is a newer, faster, more stable motherboard that uses the Intel
875 chipset. The P4P800 used the Intel 865 chipset.
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The P4P800 is the most stable board I have ever used. I don't see how
another board can be "more stable".
 
Darkfalz said:
The P4P800 is the most stable board I have ever used. I don't see how
another board can be "more stable".
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The 875 has PAT, the P4P has 865PE (IIRC) which has a 'unofficial'
version of PAT, but its not officially supported. I think the only
reason Intel would have had with *not* enabling it, was that it either
didnt co-exist with other parts of the chipset well, or caused stability
problems in 1/10000 cases or something, they had to have a reason, and
'becuase we want you to buy the higher version' reeks too much of MS
style pricing.
 
The P4P800 is the most stable board I have ever used. I don't see how
another board can be "more stable".
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I have (had, actually) two P4P800 and they work great. The one just
stopped working and was replaced. The other had one problem (apparently)
when I overclocked it a little, it began slowly corrupting the OS and I
finally had to reinstall Windows XP Pro. I think I'll stick with 2.4ghz
for a while...
 
Check the ASUS website. Generally P4C has "official" PAT while the P4P
still supports it unofficially on ASUS boards at least.
Click to expand...

Ok, I can't figure out what PAT is...
P4C800 has Promise RAID, P4P800 (Deluxe) has VIA RAID. To be honest I
prefer the VIA RAID, as you can use it as a standard ATA133 controller.
Apart from that, not really many differences. About equal performance and
features.
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Last (I think) stupid question, this board seems to be a P4C800. Is there
some obvious general thing added by deluxe and what's the 'E' in the
others?

I'm guessing from way back when I bought the P4P that "deluxe" has onboard
graphics or improved audio or something? I see there is a firewire
connector which I don't think I had on the P4P.
 
I just bought a P4P800. It's a nice MB so far...
P4C800 has Promise RAID, P4P800 (Deluxe) has VIA RAID. To be honest I prefer
the VIA RAID, as you can use it as a standard ATA133 controller.
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I have a P4P800 (non deluxe) and I have Via Raid. Then again, this is
a Japan market MB, all bets are off. I don't use Raid, didn't buy this
machine for that. I don't use Sata either. Didn't get Firewire on this
MB, don't need it. But I love the 8 USB ports, was running short with
only 6 on my 8SQ800.
P4C also has a Intel Gigabit Lan which is better than the 3Com Gigabit Lan
(which is PCI based rather than CSA).
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Hmm, didn't know about that one, thought I finally got a good NIC :-)

Best thing about my P4P800 is that it runs my crappy cheapo memory
just fine at the default 400 DDR. My old MB would not had to go down
to 333. In fact this MB is running everything more pumped up. It's
very stable.
 
My old board was not deluxe or any other modifying letter or suffix, just
P4P800. Boy that ASUS website is a classic design with everything you need
but the most frustrating navigation ever. I only go there from time to
time (in need of help) but I always fall into the download->help that
defines what downloading is. I finally guessed the ftp directory and
downloaded the Chinese version of the Manual (and then found the English.)

The plate that goes on the back board connections (from my old board) is
wrong at the USB, I see that difference, 8 USB2 connectors.
Click to expand...

]With the P4P800 you need to buy a USB slot adaptor with 2 cables to
the MB to setup the other 4 USB ports. Luckily again, my old broken
Gigabyte MB was fully equipped and came with those so I got 8
USBports, ya!
I just tested the speed from my CF card reader to HD, 90 megs in about
9 secs. Fantastic!
 
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