Didn't get the key

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DianaH

I downloaded Vista 2 or 3 weeks ago and didn't receive a key and didn't see
one (actually didn't know to look for one). I just downloaded the beta
office (2007) and they emailed me a key ... this didn't happen with Vista.

I was simply going to redownloaded the Vista beta, but it doesn't appear to
be available anymore. Can I still get a key ... if so where, or is there
such a thing as being able to share a key for the beta. Thanks.
 
In order to get a key for Vista, you would have had to register for the
Customer Preview Program. The program closed on 30th June. No more keys
will be issued.
 
It was towards the bottom of an email sent to the email address you provided
when you registered. MS does not provide a website for recovery of missing
keys or issuing replacements. As Jane has pointed out, new keys are no
longer available.
 
I did register ... tried to do it all correctly, as I wanted to provide
feedback where I could. I didn't know I'd need a key, so I didn't even look
for one ... expecially with it being a beta. Otherwise, I'd had looke for
it. I first ran the "are you vista-ready" software first and all was good.

I'm disappointed I can't install. It took a while to download (neat
download manager though ... it worked quite fast ... considering the size of
the file).

I saw another posting that said each key was good for 10 installs. Perhaps
there's still a chance for me to give this a try.

Thanks for your responses. Diana

In order to get a key for Vista, you would have had to register for the
Customer Preview Program. The program closed on 30th June. No more keys
will be issued.
 
You are not allowed to "share" keys. That is against the agreement. Just
as if you were to buy Windows Vista. Your chances of getting one off of
this newgroup are pretty slim. There is a new post at least every other day
with people trying to get a key by using the same excuse you did.

When I filed for my beta this time, I knew I'd have to pay attention, as I'd
done it before. So now you know also... Pay attention to the emails you get
after you apply for beta testing something.

I know that I, personally, am on my 3rd install of B2, so I sure am not
about to give up one of my 10...lol

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Takali S. Omega Sr
Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
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I'll be more enthusiastic about
encouraging thinking outside the box
when there's evidence of any thinking
going on inside it.


|I did register ... tried to do it all correctly, as I wanted to provide
| feedback where I could. I didn't know I'd need a key, so I didn't even
look
| for one ... expecially with it being a beta. Otherwise, I'd had looke for
| it. I first ran the "are you vista-ready" software first and all was
good.
|
| I'm disappointed I can't install. It took a while to download (neat
| download manager though ... it worked quite fast ... considering the size
of
| the file).
|
| I saw another posting that said each key was good for 10 installs.
Perhaps
| there's still a chance for me to give this a try.
|
| Thanks for your responses. Diana
|
| | In order to get a key for Vista, you would have had to register for the
| Customer Preview Program. The program closed on 30th June. No more keys
| will be issued.
|
| --
| Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;)
| Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
| | >I downloaded Vista 2 or 3 weeks ago and didn't receive a key and didn't
see
| > one (actually didn't know to look for one). I just downloaded the beta
| > office (2007) and they emailed me a key ... this didn't happen with
Vista.
| >
| > I was simply going to redownloaded the Vista beta, but it doesn't appear
| > to
| > be available anymore. Can I still get a key ... if so where, or is
there
| > such a thing as being able to share a key for the beta. Thanks.
| >
| >
|
|
|
 
I mentioned the sharing only because of another posting. Frankly, it
surprised me that MS would have allowed it. Thanks for clarifying.

Just so you know (not that you questioned this), I did not receive a
followup email with vista as I did with office beta 2007. In the office
2007 email, it clearly gives me the key and ... before I left the download
site, it displayed a page with the key, stating that I'd receive an email
with the key. Perhaps they did this because of the Vista downloaders
experiencing this same mishap.

Again ... thanks for the explanation. I'll certainly know to watch for it
next time.

"Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
You are not allowed to "share" keys. That is against the agreement. Just
as if you were to buy Windows Vista. Your chances of getting one off of
this newgroup are pretty slim. There is a new post at least every other day
with people trying to get a key by using the same excuse you did.

When I filed for my beta this time, I knew I'd have to pay attention, as I'd
done it before. So now you know also... Pay attention to the emails you get
after you apply for beta testing something.

I know that I, personally, am on my 3rd install of B2, so I sure am not
about to give up one of my 10...lol

--
Takali S. Omega Sr
Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
--------------------------------------------------------
I'll be more enthusiastic about
encouraging thinking outside the box
when there's evidence of any thinking
going on inside it.


|I did register ... tried to do it all correctly, as I wanted to provide
| feedback where I could. I didn't know I'd need a key, so I didn't even
look
| for one ... expecially with it being a beta. Otherwise, I'd had looke for
| it. I first ran the "are you vista-ready" software first and all was
good.
|
| I'm disappointed I can't install. It took a while to download (neat
| download manager though ... it worked quite fast ... considering the size
of
| the file).
|
| I saw another posting that said each key was good for 10 installs.
Perhaps
| there's still a chance for me to give this a try.
|
| Thanks for your responses. Diana
|
| | In order to get a key for Vista, you would have had to register for the
| Customer Preview Program. The program closed on 30th June. No more keys
| will be issued.
|
| --
| Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;)
| Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
| | >I downloaded Vista 2 or 3 weeks ago and didn't receive a key and didn't
see
| > one (actually didn't know to look for one). I just downloaded the beta
| > office (2007) and they emailed me a key ... this didn't happen with
Vista.
| >
| > I was simply going to redownloaded the Vista beta, but it doesn't appear
| > to
| > be available anymore. Can I still get a key ... if so where, or is
there
| > such a thing as being able to share a key for the beta. Thanks.
| >
| >
|
|
|
 
Diania

My email provider is Verizon. At the time I downloaded Beta 2 I didn't get
the email either, and someone on this forum remarked that the Verizon spam
blocker was kicking it back.

Since then I have determined that Verizon really is kicking back valid and
important email. I had a phone conversation from someone trying to send me
important email who was getting messages from Verizon saying the emails that
they were trying to send were being blocked as spam.

Whether you have Verizon or another ISP, you may be able to go to their web
site and view blocked email in your spam folder. When I went to the Verizon
site, my spam folder was empty. Maybe I waited too long. In any case it's
worth a try.

If you can't find the email in your spam folder, or you can't find your spam
folder, call your ISP. Make it a bad day for them too.

I gave up trying to track down the email because I printed out the page that
showed the product key, and then I noticed that the product key didn't show
on the printed page. How stupid is that? But since I noticed it, I copied
it down by hand.
 
A lot of people who downloaded the software never got the email, because
their ISP's spam filter kicked the message back and didn't deliver it.

My email provider Verizon did that, and I have recently learned has been
kicking back other important email.

Todd
 
Fortunately I copied it down by hand while it was still on the screen, so I
have a product Key, but if I had waited for the email, I would have been
screwed.

Todd
 
Good thing!

Todd said:
Fortunately I copied it down by hand while it was still on the screen, so
I
have a product Key, but if I had waited for the email, I would have been
screwed.

Todd
Click to expand...
 
Spam blocker or not, if they didn't register they wouldn't have received
the first key.

Blame Microsoft on this one. You can download the Vista ISO from
Microsoft's site with out any registration. Also, blame Microsoft for
leaving the link up there past 15 days after the CPP has ended.

Personally I would lock the ISO file behind a log in. If the log in
hasn't registered then they can't download it.

-Luke
 
Luke,
The reason MS left the link up after the CPP closed was because many had
indeed registered and received a key but through no fault of their own,
could not continue with the download because the servers were jammed. I
thought that was pretty decent of MS to do that.
dotcom
 
There is at least one good legitimate reason to leave the download available
for a little time after registration to the program ended.
Someone registering 5 minutes before the program ended is one example.
Another is people on dial-up have sometimes needed days to complete the
download.
This is nothing to blame on Microsoft.

Some downloaded without registering and later realized they need a key.
Perhaps Microsoft could have made it more clear but then people would have
known that if they had followed the correct path instead of skipping
directly to the download link.
I add blame to those who posted the direct download link without stating
registering is necessary to get the key.
There is blame to go to at least the 3 above and it is not all for
Microsoft.
 
I was merely suggesting that Microsoft should have made the link more
secure so that not anyone could download it. Only the people that
registered would have the opportunity to download.

As far as dial up is concerned, the Microsoft download manager (which
was used for Vista downloads on the CPP) is more than sufficient to stop
and start multiple times.

How many email a day do you think they are now receiving due to people
just skipping to the download with out registering and now they need a
key? How much bandwidth could they have saved when the program ended?

I'm a network administrator, and I have to look at network logistics a
lot. Just a simple password will avert a casual onlooker.

-Luke
 
I think they should have set up a Product Key database on Connect (lots of
Connect is public) which would have provided a "lost my product key" link.
With authentication this could have then resulted in an email to the email
address used during registration. Password databases are routinely much
larger than that database would have been.
 
A simple password probably would not be practical since that could be easily
passed.
Passport would have been a far better option.

A download manager is not really relevant especially if the download is
removed.
It can still takes days but if the download is no longer available...
That is why the download needed to be available for a time after
registrations were no longer being accepted.

The Email are probably not relevant since they are probably discarded, such
it is when the expected procedure is bypassed.

Secure may help, but Microsoft may have considered it an unnecessary step.
As I said before, this issue would be minimized if people followed the
intended route instead of skipping directly to the download.
The fault may be partly for Microsoft, but there is fault for the others I
mentioned as well.
Microsoft is already aware, but are the people that helped others directly
to the download aware of the grief they contributed to causing others simply
they thought they were making it easier to access the download?
 
I meant that since tons of sites offer to send you your password by email I
don't see why, with proper authentication (i.e. passport), MS could not have
emailed the pk again.
 
That is one option and perhaps Microsoft will consider it.
If nothing changes, Microsoft will have wasted bandwidth as someone else
suggested but little to no management after the fact.
If they use Passport or some other form of authentication, there is more
management needed afterwards.
Both ways expend resources and Microsoft needs to look at the pros and cons
of these and other options and see where is the least expenditure of
resources and most benefit.
 
Of course. I'm not proposing it, Jupiter. I'm just wishing it was that
way. You're taking my comment way too seriously. Like it was a real issue
or something.
 
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