Defragmentation problems in Windows XP

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PLAYSMITH

An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one sector of
my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through then said, "defrag
complete, some files could not be defragmented. See the report to find out
which files could not be defragmented" There were no files listed, and that
portion of the hard disk will not defragment. The other two portions will.
Any suggestions gratefully received
 
Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter. The
explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.

Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt
in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Thanks Gerry
Here it is: -
Volume Windows XP (C:)
Volume size = 46.57 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 14.00 GB
Free space = 32.57 GB
Percent free space = 69 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 13 %
File fragmentation = 26 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 63,738
Average file size = 338 KB
Total fragmented files = 2,237
Total excess fragments = 19,227
Average fragments per file = 1.30

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,258
Fragmented folders = 71
Excess folder fragments = 343

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 72 MB
MFT record count = 70,560
Percent MFT in use = 95 %
Total MFT fragments = 3
 
PLAYSMITH said:
Thanks Gerry
Here it is: -
Volume Windows XP (C:)
Volume size = 46.57 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 14.00 GB
Free space = 32.57 GB
Percent free space = 69 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 13 %
File fragmentation = 26 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 63,738
Average file size = 338 KB
Total fragmented files = 2,237
Total excess fragments = 19,227
Average fragments per file = 1.30

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,258
Fragmented folders = 71
Excess folder fragments = 343

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 72 MB
MFT record count = 70,560
Percent MFT in use = 95 %
Total MFT fragments = 3
Click to expand...
It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can folders
be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
Jim
 
Jim
Thanks for replying. I really don't know what has gone on! I'm rather hoping
Gerry has some ideas!
 
This Report is puzzling. It says you have 2,237 fragmented files but
only one, the MFT is recorded. There are a few files which are never
listed in a Files that cannot be Defragmented List. The MFT Table and
the Pagefile are the most common. The Main Report always provides
information on these files.

Have you ever used a third party disk defragmenter?

Is Hibernation enabled or disabled?

In an attempt to see if it is possible to get a "better" report.

I suggest you download and run cCleaner (freeware)
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Next select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
System Restore point.

Then select Start, Run, type cmd and hit ENTER, then type cd\ and hit
ENTER and that takes you to the c:\> prompt for you then to type
chkdsk C: /F /R. Answer Yes to run at next boot and type exit to return
to Desktop. Restart your computer.

After chkdsk has run try Disk Defragmenter again and post a copy of the
Report after it has been run.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Gerry
You are a complete star! I did as you suggested and, bingo, defrag works.
Report appended below. To answer your questions, I haven't used a third party
defragmenter, but I have used indexdatsuite to remove clutter and that may be
to blame. I wasn't hibernating either. I tried to run chkdsk last night but,
like the defragmenter, it skipped through the stages too quickly, but today
it identified all sorts of broken files. Thank you so much. Here's the new
report: -
Volume Windows XP (C:)
Volume size = 46.57 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 11.07 GB
Free space = 35.50 GB
Percent free space = 76 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 55,952
Average file size = 256 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 3
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 5,579
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 72 MB
MFT record count = 61,621
Percent MFT in use = 83 %
Total MFT fragments = 3
 
Good result. Thanks for reporting the outcome.


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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Hi, need help

I' m trying to defrag my disk. The problem is that, it don't seem to
improve, when its done. It still shows me lot of files that can't be defrag.
I want to defrag until the ANALYZE stops saying "You should defragment this
volume".

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 13.97 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 10.29 GB
Free space = 3.68 GB
Percent free space = 26 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 17 %
File fragmentation = 34 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 66,614
Average file size = 254 KB
Total fragmented files = 68
Total excess fragments = 13,374
Average fragments per file = 1.20

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,152
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 131 MB
MFT record count = 74,008
Percent MFT in use = 55 %
Total MFT fragments = 346

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Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
320 20 MB \Documents and Settings\mery\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml
304 20 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc4.part
352 22 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc8\thumbnail.db
305 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP944\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
245 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP945\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
201 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP952\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
248 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP950\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
260 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP951\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
210 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP946\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
231 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP947\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
238 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP948\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
280 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP949\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
401 25 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc7.part
488 32 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc6.part
525 33 MB \Documents and Settings\mery\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\MTVN\en-us\catalog.wmdb.lz
548 39 MB \Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\lib\rt.jar
728 47 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc2.part
1,164 97 MB \Documents and Settings\juan jose\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{212A1C68-3B91-4141-9007-E3C57D5495C3}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Deleted Items.dbx
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\280cec.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\140b8c1.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\7a8cbe.msp
197 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\28c495.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\44bbb3.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\cb5e9.msp
202 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\96129.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\900f8.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\60d266.msp
1,096 107 MB \Documents and Settings\guillermo\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{998550BA-EC54-4908-89DF-B2624111192F}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Sent Items.dbx
1,348 148 MB \Documents and Settings\guillermo\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{998550BA-EC54-4908-89DF-B2624111192F}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Inbox.dbx
430 172 MB \Documents and Settings\guillermo\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{998550BA-EC54-4908-89DF-B2624111192F}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Deleted Items.dbx
 
Hi.

Along the same vein, I'm seeing:

Defragmentation is complete for: (C:)
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.


However, no files are listed!
The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank you! Julie

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 97.65 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 15.50 GB
Free space = 82.15 GB
Percent free space = 84 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 53,173
Average file size = 400 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 4
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,845
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 89 MB
MFT record count = 58,219
Percent MFT in use = 63 %
Total MFT fragments = 3
 
Julie said:
Along the same vein, I'm seeing:

Defragmentation is complete for: (C:)
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.

However, no files are listed!
The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank
you! Julie

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 97.65 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 15.50 GB
Free space = 82.15 GB
Percent free space = 84 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 53,173
Average file size = 400 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 4
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,845
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 89 MB
MFT record count = 58,219
Percent MFT in use = 63 %
Total MFT fragments = 3
Click to expand...

I am not seeing an issue there. I think the best advice would be to ignore
the message and move on. ;-)
 
Julie said:
Along the same vein, I'm seeing:

Defragmentation is complete for: (C:)
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.

However, no files are listed!
The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank
you! Julie

Volume (C:)
Volume size = 97.65 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 15.50 GB
Free space = 82.15 GB
Percent free space = 84 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 53,173
Average file size = 400 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 4
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,845
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 89 MB
MFT record count = 58,219
Percent MFT in use = 63 %
Total MFT fragments = 3
Click to expand...

Shenan said:
I am not seeing an issue there. I think the best advice would be
to ignore the message and move on. ;-)
Click to expand...

Julie,

Even with the additional information provided in your last response - my
advice remains the same. ;-)

I see no issue and I would ignore the message.
 
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