Defender is driving me nuts..

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I didn't post that last one, it just went..
Anyways, I don't even know if I'm on the right board, but I've beeen all
over to find the right one, & this one will have to do..
I had Defender & it worked well..[XP home..] 1 yr old Dell 9150..
All of a sudden I got a message 0x800106ba..Went to MS forum, other people
have the same problem & the answer was download 'Windows installer cleanup',
which I did.. [Big Mistake ??] I uninstalled Defender..The task bar icon
disappeared, but Defender is still in my start, but when I click on it, I get
the error message only. It's no longer in my program list..
I tried to download a new Defender, but it won't download. Today i found a
whole bunch of Defender files in C:\Program Files..I tried to delete them but
I get the message MpShHoook.dll:Access denied..
What can I do ?? Really appreciate HELP !!! HELP !!
 
Hello Patty,

Welcome, you are in yhe right place. ;-)

Have you tried these operations running in safe mºde?

In safe mode, some of the protective services which these programs use to
ensure that they aren't removed, are not running, so they are easier to
remºve.
Getting into Windows Safe Mode.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

The spelling or syntax errors in the manual entering of the data causes
problems in the interpretation of the findings.

Nothing found under MpShHoook.dll

Have a look at this 3 posts. It may be relevant to your prºblem.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-US

For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
 
Hi, I've never gone to safe mode, should be no problem, but what do I do
after that ?? How do I find that MSHhook file ?? [I managed to get rid of a
whole bunch of Defender files after I mailed you, I found them in C:\\program
files..But MSHook won't go away] I checked all the other links you gave me,
Thanks..
--
patty


Engel said:
Hello Patty,

Welcome, you are in yhe right place. ;-)

Have you tried these operations running in safe mºde?

In safe mode, some of the protective services which these programs use to
ensure that they aren't removed, are not running, so they are easier to
remºve.
Getting into Windows Safe Mode.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

The spelling or syntax errors in the manual entering of the data causes
problems in the interpretation of the findings.

Nothing found under MpShHoook.dll

Have a look at this 3 posts. It may be relevant to your prºblem.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-US

For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

patty said:
I didn't post that last one, it just went..
Anyways, I don't even know if I'm on the right board, but I've beeen all
over to find the right one, & this one will have to do..
I had Defender & it worked well..[XP home..] 1 yr old Dell 9150..
All of a sudden I got a message 0x800106ba..Went to MS forum, other people
have the same problem & the answer was download 'Windows installer cleanup',
which I did.. [Big Mistake ??] I uninstalled Defender..The task bar icon
disappeared, but Defender is still in my start, but when I click on it, I get
the error message only. It's no longer in my program list..
I tried to download a new Defender, but it won't download. Today i found a
whole bunch of Defender files in C:\Program Files..I tried to delete them but
I get the message MpShHoook.dll:Access denied..
What can I do ?? Really appreciate HELP !!! HELP !!
 
Hi Patty,

Remember whatever you do, (installing and updateting or unistalling) always
as a administratºr.
This is the key!
The installation as an admin is not enough.
You needed to login as an Adm!n!stratºr.


Enable Hidden Files and folder's.

To enable hidden files and folders Go to taskbar, click Start > My Computer.

On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.

On the View tab, uncheck Hide file extensions for known file types.

Make sure that 'Show hidden files and folders' is enabled.

Display the contents of system folders' is checked & 'Hide extentions for
known file types ' is not checked then press ªpply.

You can set this back later by opening the same page and pressing 'restore
defaults' then pressing ªpply,

HOW TO Enable Hidden Files:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339


Empty your IE cache and your other temporary file folders, eg: c:\temp,
c:\windows\temp or C:\Documents and Settings\<name>\Local Settings\Temp (the
path to your temp folder will change depending on your name) - sometimes
programmers can be hidden in there - watch out for mysterious *.exe files or
*.dll files in those fºlders;
and c:\Documents and Settings\user name\local settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5 and delete all the files in those directories and
subdirectºries).
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm


Now, boot in Safe Mode.

In safe mode, Go to Start -> Search (Use the Search Companion) and click in
All files and Folders, and very careful, type the name of the file “
MpShHook.dll†(wach your expeling MSHook or MpShHoook.dll (not my ;-) )

By now, you will find the location of the file, and be able to deleted.

Good luck Patty
--

patty said:
Hi, I've never gone to safe mode, should be no problem, but what do I do
after that ?? How do I find that MSHhook file ?? [I managed to get rid of a
whole bunch of Defender files after I mailed you, I found them in C:\\program
files..But MSHook won't go away] I checked all the other links you gave me,
Thanks..
--
patty


Engel said:
Hello Patty,

Welcome, you are in yhe right place. ;-)

Have you tried these operations running in safe mºde?

In safe mode, some of the protective services which these programs use to
ensure that they aren't removed, are not running, so they are easier to
remºve.
Getting into Windows Safe Mode.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

The spelling or syntax errors in the manual entering of the data causes
problems in the interpretation of the findings.

Nothing found under MpShHoook.dll

Have a look at this 3 posts. It may be relevant to your prºblem.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-US

For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

patty said:
I didn't post that last one, it just went..
Anyways, I don't even know if I'm on the right board, but I've beeen all
over to find the right one, & this one will have to do..
I had Defender & it worked well..[XP home..] 1 yr old Dell 9150..
All of a sudden I got a message 0x800106ba..Went to MS forum, other people
have the same problem & the answer was download 'Windows installer cleanup',
which I did.. [Big Mistake ??] I uninstalled Defender..The task bar icon
disappeared, but Defender is still in my start, but when I click on it, I get
the error message only. It's no longer in my program list..
I tried to download a new Defender, but it won't download. Today i found a
whole bunch of Defender files in C:\Program Files..I tried to delete them but
I get the message MpShHoook.dll:Access denied..
What can I do ?? Really appreciate HELP !!! HELP !!
 
Wheeee !!! I found it & BLASTED it out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 of the sneaky little buggers-Castle Cops Defender & MSHook..
& ALL from my Recycle Bin too..
Thank you SO much, Engel..
Only one problem left, there's still 2 castle icons Windows Defenders in my
'Start index' how do I get rid of those ?? They're empty, but the icons are
still there..
Thank you again..
--
patty


Engel said:
Hi Patty,

Remember whatever you do, (installing and updateting or unistalling) always
as a administratºr.
This is the key!
The installation as an admin is not enough.
You needed to login as an Adm!n!stratºr.


Enable Hidden Files and folder's.

To enable hidden files and folders Go to taskbar, click Start > My Computer.

On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.

On the View tab, uncheck Hide file extensions for known file types.

Make sure that 'Show hidden files and folders' is enabled.

Display the contents of system folders' is checked & 'Hide extentions for
known file types ' is not checked then press ªpply.

You can set this back later by opening the same page and pressing 'restore
defaults' then pressing ªpply,

HOW TO Enable Hidden Files:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339


Empty your IE cache and your other temporary file folders, eg: c:\temp,
c:\windows\temp or C:\Documents and Settings\<name>\Local Settings\Temp (the
path to your temp folder will change depending on your name) - sometimes
programmers can be hidden in there - watch out for mysterious *.exe files or
*.dll files in those fºlders;
and c:\Documents and Settings\user name\local settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5 and delete all the files in those directories and
subdirectºries).
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm


Now, boot in Safe Mode.

In safe mode, Go to Start -> Search (Use the Search Companion) and click in
All files and Folders, and very careful, type the name of the file “
MpShHook.dll†(wach your expeling MSHook or MpShHoook.dll (not my ;-) )

By now, you will find the location of the file, and be able to deleted.

Good luck Patty
--

patty said:
Hi, I've never gone to safe mode, should be no problem, but what do I do
after that ?? How do I find that MSHhook file ?? [I managed to get rid of a
whole bunch of Defender files after I mailed you, I found them in C:\\program
files..But MSHook won't go away] I checked all the other links you gave me,
Thanks..
--
patty


Engel said:
Hello Patty,

Welcome, you are in yhe right place. ;-)

Have you tried these operations running in safe mºde?

In safe mode, some of the protective services which these programs use to
ensure that they aren't removed, are not running, so they are easier to
remºve.
Getting into Windows Safe Mode.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

The spelling or syntax errors in the manual entering of the data causes
problems in the interpretation of the findings.

Nothing found under MpShHoook.dll

Have a look at this 3 posts. It may be relevant to your prºblem.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-US

For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

:

I didn't post that last one, it just went..
Anyways, I don't even know if I'm on the right board, but I've beeen all
over to find the right one, & this one will have to do..
I had Defender & it worked well..[XP home..] 1 yr old Dell 9150..
All of a sudden I got a message 0x800106ba..Went to MS forum, other people
have the same problem & the answer was download 'Windows installer cleanup',
which I did.. [Big Mistake ??] I uninstalled Defender..The task bar icon
disappeared, but Defender is still in my start, but when I click on it, I get
the error message only. It's no longer in my program list..
I tried to download a new Defender, but it won't download. Today i found a
whole bunch of Defender files in C:\Program Files..I tried to delete them but
I get the message MpShHoook.dll:Access denied..
What can I do ?? Really appreciate HELP !!! HELP !!
 
Hi Patty,

Whatever you do, (installing and updateting or unistalling) always as a
administratºr.


As always, you should make sure that you have got a working system restore
point before you run any test.


I would suggest staying on the side of caution... Use System Restore to Undo
Changes if Problems Occur

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/systemrestore.mspx


Now you can give a try with Ccleaner to get rid of those icons.

Ccleaner -
http://www.ccleaner.com
http://forum.ccleaner.com/index.php?showtopic=1504
Note, When you install Ccleaner, uncheck the Yahoo toolbar optiºn.
Note: uncheck in Applications, the box for Utilities.
CCleaner quick tour:
http://www.ccleaner.com/help/tour1.asp
CCleaner even has a built-in Registry Cleaner. It's not the best (not
CCleaner's main function), but it will find invaild registry entries that
most Registry Cleaners will not. Unlike the Disk Cleaners with a Registry
Cleaner, CCleaner does really fast scanning for Registry Issues. The reason
is CCleaner doesn't want to effect Windows performance or effect any
applications. It's better to be safe than sorry!

Do a scan with all the check marks on.

Open Ccleaner and start the cleaning, press "Windows" "Aplications" and "Run
Cleaner" from the menu choose 'Issues' and then press scan for issues, Repair
any fºund.

Run twice Ccleaner, the same as above.


For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

patty said:
Wheeee !!! I found it & BLASTED it out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 of the sneaky little buggers-Castle Cops Defender & MSHook..
& ALL from my Recycle Bin too..
Thank you SO much, Engel..
Only one problem left, there's still 2 castle icons Windows Defenders in my
'Start index' how do I get rid of those ?? They're empty, but the icons are
still there..
Thank you again..
--
patty


Engel said:
Hi Patty,

Remember whatever you do, (installing and updateting or unistalling) always
as a administratºr.
This is the key!
The installation as an admin is not enough.
You needed to login as an Adm!n!stratºr.


Enable Hidden Files and folder's.

To enable hidden files and folders Go to taskbar, click Start > My Computer.

On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.

On the View tab, uncheck Hide file extensions for known file types.

Make sure that 'Show hidden files and folders' is enabled.

Display the contents of system folders' is checked & 'Hide extentions for
known file types ' is not checked then press ªpply.

You can set this back later by opening the same page and pressing 'restore
defaults' then pressing ªpply,

HOW TO Enable Hidden Files:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339


Empty your IE cache and your other temporary file folders, eg: c:\temp,
c:\windows\temp or C:\Documents and Settings\<name>\Local Settings\Temp (the
path to your temp folder will change depending on your name) - sometimes
programmers can be hidden in there - watch out for mysterious *.exe files or
*.dll files in those fºlders;
and c:\Documents and Settings\user name\local settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5 and delete all the files in those directories and
subdirectºries).
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm


Now, boot in Safe Mode.

In safe mode, Go to Start -> Search (Use the Search Companion) and click in
All files and Folders, and very careful, type the name of the file “
MpShHook.dll†(wach your expeling MSHook or MpShHoook.dll (not my ;-) )

By now, you will find the location of the file, and be able to deleted.

Good luck Patty
--

patty said:
Hi, I've never gone to safe mode, should be no problem, but what do I do
after that ?? How do I find that MSHhook file ?? [I managed to get rid of a
whole bunch of Defender files after I mailed you, I found them in C:\\program
files..But MSHook won't go away] I checked all the other links you gave me,
Thanks..
--
patty


:

Hello Patty,

Welcome, you are in yhe right place. ;-)

Have you tried these operations running in safe mºde?

In safe mode, some of the protective services which these programs use to
ensure that they aren't removed, are not running, so they are easier to
remºve.
Getting into Windows Safe Mode.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

The spelling or syntax errors in the manual entering of the data causes
problems in the interpretation of the findings.

Nothing found under MpShHoook.dll

Have a look at this 3 posts. It may be relevant to your prºblem.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-US

For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

:

I didn't post that last one, it just went..
Anyways, I don't even know if I'm on the right board, but I've beeen all
over to find the right one, & this one will have to do..
I had Defender & it worked well..[XP home..] 1 yr old Dell 9150..
All of a sudden I got a message 0x800106ba..Went to MS forum, other people
have the same problem & the answer was download 'Windows installer cleanup',
which I did.. [Big Mistake ??] I uninstalled Defender..The task bar icon
disappeared, but Defender is still in my start, but when I click on it, I get
the error message only. It's no longer in my program list..
I tried to download a new Defender, but it won't download. Today i found a
whole bunch of Defender files in C:\Program Files..I tried to delete them but
I get the message MpShHoook.dll:Access denied..
What can I do ?? Really appreciate HELP !!! HELP !!
 
Hi there, Didn't know you'd anwered me, cause I never got a notification..
Thanks for answering, Engel..
I think I am the administrater, my ISP support set me up when I subscribed.
[My PC never asks about it] [??]
All the steps you gave me worked so well, will go to ccleaner & finish the
job..
Hope this helps somebody else too..
Thank you SO much..All you guys are the greatest !!!
--
patty


Engel said:
Hi Patty,

Whatever you do, (installing and updateting or unistalling) always as a
administratºr.


As always, you should make sure that you have got a working system restore
point before you run any test.


I would suggest staying on the side of caution... Use System Restore to Undo
Changes if Problems Occur

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/systemrestore.mspx


Now you can give a try with Ccleaner to get rid of those icons.

Ccleaner -
http://www.ccleaner.com
http://forum.ccleaner.com/index.php?showtopic=1504
Note, When you install Ccleaner, uncheck the Yahoo toolbar optiºn.
Note: uncheck in Applications, the box for Utilities.
CCleaner quick tour:
http://www.ccleaner.com/help/tour1.asp
CCleaner even has a built-in Registry Cleaner. It's not the best (not
CCleaner's main function), but it will find invaild registry entries that
most Registry Cleaners will not. Unlike the Disk Cleaners with a Registry
Cleaner, CCleaner does really fast scanning for Registry Issues. The reason
is CCleaner doesn't want to effect Windows performance or effect any
applications. It's better to be safe than sorry!

Do a scan with all the check marks on.

Open Ccleaner and start the cleaning, press "Windows" "Aplications" and "Run
Cleaner" from the menu choose 'Issues' and then press scan for issues, Repair
any fºund.

Run twice Ccleaner, the same as above.


For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

patty said:
Wheeee !!! I found it & BLASTED it out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 of the sneaky little buggers-Castle Cops Defender & MSHook..
& ALL from my Recycle Bin too..
Thank you SO much, Engel..
Only one problem left, there's still 2 castle icons Windows Defenders in my
'Start index' how do I get rid of those ?? They're empty, but the icons are
still there..
Thank you again..
--
patty


Engel said:
Hi Patty,

Remember whatever you do, (installing and updateting or unistalling) always
as a administratºr.
This is the key!
The installation as an admin is not enough.
You needed to login as an Adm!n!stratºr.


Enable Hidden Files and folder's.

To enable hidden files and folders Go to taskbar, click Start > My Computer.

On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.

On the View tab, uncheck Hide file extensions for known file types.

Make sure that 'Show hidden files and folders' is enabled.

Display the contents of system folders' is checked & 'Hide extentions for
known file types ' is not checked then press ªpply.

You can set this back later by opening the same page and pressing 'restore
defaults' then pressing ªpply,

HOW TO Enable Hidden Files:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339


Empty your IE cache and your other temporary file folders, eg: c:\temp,
c:\windows\temp or C:\Documents and Settings\<name>\Local Settings\Temp (the
path to your temp folder will change depending on your name) - sometimes
programmers can be hidden in there - watch out for mysterious *.exe files or
*.dll files in those fºlders;
and c:\Documents and Settings\user name\local settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5 and delete all the files in those directories and
subdirectºries).
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm


Now, boot in Safe Mode.

In safe mode, Go to Start -> Search (Use the Search Companion) and click in
All files and Folders, and very careful, type the name of the file “
MpShHook.dll†(wach your expeling MSHook or MpShHoook.dll (not my ;-) )

By now, you will find the location of the file, and be able to deleted.

Good luck Patty
--

:

Hi, I've never gone to safe mode, should be no problem, but what do I do
after that ?? How do I find that MSHhook file ?? [I managed to get rid of a
whole bunch of Defender files after I mailed you, I found them in C:\\program
files..But MSHook won't go away] I checked all the other links you gave me,
Thanks..
--
patty


:

Hello Patty,

Welcome, you are in yhe right place. ;-)

Have you tried these operations running in safe mºde?

In safe mode, some of the protective services which these programs use to
ensure that they aren't removed, are not running, so they are easier to
remºve.
Getting into Windows Safe Mode.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

The spelling or syntax errors in the manual entering of the data causes
problems in the interpretation of the findings.

Nothing found under MpShHoook.dll

Have a look at this 3 posts. It may be relevant to your prºblem.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-US

For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the pºst.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Еиçеl
--

:

I didn't post that last one, it just went..
Anyways, I don't even know if I'm on the right board, but I've beeen all
over to find the right one, & this one will have to do..
I had Defender & it worked well..[XP home..] 1 yr old Dell 9150..
All of a sudden I got a message 0x800106ba..Went to MS forum, other people
have the same problem & the answer was download 'Windows installer cleanup',
which I did.. [Big Mistake ??] I uninstalled Defender..The task bar icon
disappeared, but Defender is still in my start, but when I click on it, I get
the error message only. It's no longer in my program list..
I tried to download a new Defender, but it won't download. Today i found a
whole bunch of Defender files in C:\Program Files..I tried to delete them but
I get the message MpShHoook.dll:Access denied..
What can I do ?? Really appreciate HELP !!! HELP !!
 
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