DDNS and WINS

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Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ? Pls advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to resolve names
it cannot resolve.
 
Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

Richard G. Harper said:
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to resolve names
it cannot resolve.

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Daniel Tan said:
Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ? Pls advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're not in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to resolve names
it cannot resolve.

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Daniel Tan said:
Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ? Pls advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
Richard, do you mean in DDNS ? DDNS only works in AD right ?

Rgds
Daniel

Richard G. Harper said:
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're not in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to resolve names
it cannot resolve.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
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Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ? Pls advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
Richard, are you referring to DDNS that can be updated with netbios
name from client ?

Rgds
Daniel

Richard G. Harper said:
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're not in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to resolve names
it cannot resolve.

--
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Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ? Pls advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
No, DNS works with or without Active Directory, but for secure DNS updates
you must run Active Directory. You can turn off the secure updates feature
in the DNS server, then set all clients to update their records in DNS and
they will do so.

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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, do you mean in DDNS ? DDNS only works in AD right ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're not in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to
resolve
names
it cannot resolve.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ?
Pls
advise. Thanks
Regards
Daniel
 
Richard
How to enable the clients to update their records ? Do u refer to
Win2000 clients only ?

Rgds
Daniel

Richard G. Harper said:
No, DNS works with or without Active Directory, but for secure DNS updates
you must run Active Directory. You can turn off the secure updates feature
in the DNS server, then set all clients to update their records in DNS and
they will do so.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, do you mean in DDNS ? DDNS only works in AD right ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're not in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name to address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to
resolve
names
it cannot resolve.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ?
Pls
advise. Thanks
 
Windows 2000 and XP will both update a DNS server if told to - you'll find
this option by opening up Network properties in the Control Panel,
right-clicking your network adapter and selecting Properties, double-click
the TCP/IP protocol to open it, then click the Advanced button at the bottom
of that page. From there you'll find the DNS Server settings.

--
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Daniel Tan said:
Richard
How to enable the clients to update their records ? Do u refer to
Win2000 clients only ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
No, DNS works with or without Active Directory, but for secure DNS updates
you must run Active Directory. You can turn off the secure updates feature
in the DNS server, then set all clients to update their records in DNS and
they will do so.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Daniel Tan said:
Richard, do you mean in DDNS ? DDNS only works in AD right ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're
not
in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name
to
address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to resolve
names
it cannot resolve.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like
WINS ?
Pls
advise. Thanks
Regards
Daniel
 
Richard, is this similar to ddns function ?

Rgds
Daniel

Richard G. Harper said:
Windows 2000 and XP will both update a DNS server if told to - you'll find
this option by opening up Network properties in the Control Panel,
right-clicking your network adapter and selecting Properties, double-click
the TCP/IP protocol to open it, then click the Advanced button at the bottom
of that page. From there you'll find the DNS Server settings.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Daniel Tan said:
Richard
How to enable the clients to update their records ? Do u refer to
Win2000 clients only ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
No, DNS works with or without Active Directory, but for secure DNS updates
you must run Active Directory. You can turn off the secure updates feature
in the DNS server, then set all clients to update their records in DNS and
they will do so.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Richard, do you mean in DDNS ? DDNS only works in AD right ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept only secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows 2000 Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If you're
not
in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update their records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have to enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a "name
to
address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to
resolve
names
it cannot resolve.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ?
Pls
advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
DDNS requires the use of a DHCP server to handle the dynamic updates.
Otherwise you're talking about simple DNS and DNS registration, which Win2K
can handle without adding DHCP or DDNS.

Here's a little more background on DDNS and DNS in Windows 2000:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=191290
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291382

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Daniel Tan said:
Richard, is this similar to ddns function ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Windows 2000 and XP will both update a DNS server if told to - you'll find
this option by opening up Network properties in the Control Panel,
right-clicking your network adapter and selecting Properties, double-click
the TCP/IP protocol to open it, then click the Advanced button at the bottom
of that page. From there you'll find the DNS Server settings.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Daniel Tan said:
Richard
How to enable the clients to update their records ? Do u refer to
Win2000 clients only ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
No, DNS works with or without Active Directory, but for secure DNS updates
you must run Active Directory. You can turn off the secure updates feature
in the DNS server, then set all clients to update their records in
DNS
and
they will do so.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Richard, do you mean in DDNS ? DDNS only works in AD right ?

Rgds
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Maybe. The Windows 2000 DNS Server has the option to accept
only
secure
updates from client systems (for example, members of a Windows
2000
Active
Directory domain) or non-secure updates from any client. If
you're
not
in
an AD domain you would want to set your clients up to update
their
records
in DNS and let DNS allow insecure updates.

If you're using some other DNS solution then I have no clue.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Richard, so if using DNS to resolve netbios name then we have
to
enter
those netbios name and ip right ?

Rgds,
Daniel

"Richard G. Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
DNS does not use broadcasting to resolve names. DNS is a
"name
to
address"
table, and usually also provides for external name lookups to
resolve
names
it cannot resolve.
replied
to.
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Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS ?
Pls
advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel
 
Daniel said:
*Does DDNS able to resolve broadcasting that functions like WINS
Pls advise. Thanks

Regards
Daniel *

Daniel

in a short time Wins will be a old protocol, almost every network i
running in active directory where DNS is the main name resolutio
protocol.
Wins will be only used in mixed networks, pe, NT4 with windows 2000.

i hope this is a answer to your question.

Regards
E


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e.kolma
 
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e.kolman said:
Daniel

in a short time Wins will be a old protocol, almost every network is
running in active directory where DNS is the main name resolution
protocol.
Wins will be only used in mixed networks, pe, NT4 with windows 2000.

i hope this is a answer to your question.

Regards
Ed

Actually, that's not necessarily entirely true. For example, Exchange 2000
and 2003 REQUIRE WINS.

837391 - Exchange Server 2003 and Exchange 2000 Server require NetBIOS name
resolution for full functionality:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=837391

There maybe other services and application that require it as well. AD
doesn't but that doesn't stop other apps from querying AD using NetBIOS, so
one would carefully need to inventory their software and their requirements
and possibly contact the vendors just in case there are any questions before
eliminating WINS or NetBIOS.

Keep in mind, WINS is designed for NetBIOS resolution in an enterprise
environment (meaning there are multiple subnets) since NetBIOS resolution
does not cross routers by default (nor would I want to enable that feature
anyway).

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Ace

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Ace
so can dns enable viewing of computer from different subnets like wins in NN ?

Rgds
Daniel
 
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Daniel Tan said:
Ace
so can dns enable viewing of computer from different subnets like
wins in NN ?

Rgds
Daniel

NO. That is a NOT a DNS function.

That function is based on the Browser service, which relies on NetBIOS,
which relies on WINS if going across subnets (across routers).

If you want My Network Places functionality across your subnets, Believe me,
do not remove WINS.

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Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

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