Dawn

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J.B.

For anyone who cares ;-)

When you download the Dawn demo (NOT THE ULTRA VERSION), it is possible
to run it with the latest openGL wrapper used for Dusk.
Images look horrible though, (black with strange mappings) i think NVidia
tries to
detect if the openGL wrapper is used ;-)
Anyway, since it's 'working', it's only a matter of time, before a clever
person adjusts
the wrapper / demo, so that it wil work for us ati-users as well.

J.B.
 
How can the dawn demo get broken by updating the dx9b? dawn isnt directx at
all, its all opengl. Opengl has nothing to do with directx.
The wrapper was made for the dawn demo, not dusk.
 
both demos of dawn (ultra and standard) work fine on my 9700pro with DX9b
installed and the 3.5 cat drivers
 
Opengl has nothing to do with directx. The wrapper you are talking about is
opengl. the demo is opengl. It has nothing to do with directx/dx9a or b or
dx8 or 8.1, or any version. im trying to help you all understand and become
more intelligent, but i guess you guys either didnt read my post above or
dont care.
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I don't care, I was responding to the OP. And BTW, OpenGL games in
Windows *do* use DirectX.

Andrew.
 
aep@nospam said:
DirectX != Direct3D.
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Well, I can run HL, Quake and Hexen 2 without DX (not installed on one
of my old Win95 machines). These are OGL games. How do you explain that?
 
OpenGL is a 3DVGA API only, DirectX is a complete set of API's for more
hardware than just VGA , ie. sound mouse, controllers , joysticks, as well
as VGA
 
Well, I can run HL, Quake and Hexen 2 without DX (not installed on one
of my old Win95 machines). These are OGL games. How do you explain that?
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I was referring to modern games, not antiques.

Andrew.
 
aep@nospam said:
I was referring to modern games, not antiques.
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:^P Excuses, excuses...

Well, whatever you say. I don't have time to bother with testing on
the new games.
 
somehow ?

thank you for attempting to help


** no fate **

dracman


: Plus JB never mentioned he even had dx9b. It was dr richard cranium who said
: it.
: Ive read of people that had the same problem as you in the rage3d forums.
: The "black mapping/background" loss of textures, etc... all i know is that
: they fixed it somehow.
:
:
:
:
: : > JB was complaining of graphical errors; Directx most likely is being used
: > for sound and mouse, but not for graphics. Opengl is what the dawn demo is
: > using. There should be no reason that when updating to dx9b the dawn demo
: > should get broken "Graphically." Like i said before, the dawn demo uses
: > opengl for its graphics. His problem would not lie in the update of dx9b.
: > Ok, now we know you can run it fine, so lets help him.
: >
: > I have not heard of the wrappers ruining the demo, but i have heard of
: > certain cat drivers ruining it, or improperly installed cat drivers. So
: try
: > to reinstall your cat drivers. I have not tried cat3.6 so i dont know if
: > that works, but i know cat3.5 works fine. What kind of cpu are you using?
: If
: > your using an older amd cpu then you will have problem running it. A patch
: > for the older cpus was released. If i can find the link i will post it.
: This
: > was all origionally posted on rage3d.com you can check there and there
: > forums. There is a big thread for the dawn demo on there forums, and im
: > pretty sure you should be able to get all the help you need there, and
: > somewhere in there is a link to the cpu patch for the demo too.
: >
: > The wrapper for the dawn demo already fully works on the dawn demo and
: > always has, so im not sure what you mean when you say "Anyway, since it's
: > 'working', it's only a matter of time, before a clever person adjusts the
: > wrapper / demo, so that it wil work for us ati-users as well."
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > : > >
: > > : > > > For anyone who cares ;-)
: > > >
: > > > When you download the Dawn demo (NOT THE ULTRA VERSION), it is
: possible
: > > > to run it with the latest openGL wrapper used for Dusk.
: > > > Images look horrible though, (black with strange mappings) i think
: > NVidia
: > > > tries to
: > > > detect if the openGL wrapper is used ;-)
: > > > Anyway, since it's 'working', it's only a matter of time, before a
: > clever
: > > > person adjusts
: > > > the wrapper / demo, so that it wil work for us ati-users as well.
: > > >
: > > > J.B.
: > > >
: > > >
: > >
: > > Also a small mistake...
: > > It's the other way round, dusk is running now...
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:
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Plus JB never mentioned he even had dx9b. It was dr richard cranium who said
it.
Ive read of people that had the same problem as you in the rage3d forums.
The "black mapping/background" loss of textures, etc... all i know is that
they fixed it somehow.
 
Like i said, i made a mistake posting.
Dawn (and Ultra -Dawn) are running perfectly, using the wrapper and directx
dx9b
I only wanted to mention, that the DUSK (not ultra!) is running with the
latest
wrapper as well.
Only the textures misbehave in this demo.
 
J.B. said:
I only wanted to mention, that the DUSK (not ultra!) is running with the
latest
wrapper as well.
Only the textures misbehave in this demo.
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Actually, all of textures I can see is the background texture, Dusk is
drawn in some kind of wireframe...
 
oh, ok :) i was mistaken. well they never made the wrapper to work with
dusk, so im suprised you got it to even work, even with messed up textures.
 
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