Crescendo Plug-in

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

I have Crescendo Plug-in downloaded and installed on my hard drive.

I am trying to get it to work in Netscape 7, but all it will do is play in
IE.

I don't understand why this is. I mean, when I went to the download page it
told me if I wanted to install it to Netscape browser then the file path I
should use is:

C:\ProgramFiles\Netscape\Netscape7\plug-ins

That's exactly what I did. When it asked me for the file path I put in the
file path I just quoted above.

But when I went to My Computer and opened up Netscape and looked at Plug-ins
it wasn't listed, even though the set-up program told me it was creating that
file.

Does anyone here have any idea why Crescendo won't install as a plug-in in
Netscape and what I can do to get it to install to Netscape?

Also, I have midi on my Website and I put in: embed src="name of midi" and it
will play in IE using Windows Media Player.

Is there a code for Crescendo that I need to put on my webpage so that it
will play the
midi in Netscape and if so what would that code be?

 

[Guest]

Have you contacted the Netscape people for assistance or tech support?

 

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

Have you contacted the Netscape people for assistance or tech support?

I have Crescendo Plug-in downloaded and installed on my hard drive.

[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]

will play the
midi in Netscape and if so what would that code be?

The last time I contacted them they wanted me to pay them money for tech
support.

Have you contacted Netscape and gotten free assistance?

 

[chicagofan]

I have Crescendo Plug-in downloaded and installed on my hard drive. I am
trying to get it to work in Netscape 7, but all it will do is play in
IE.

I don't understand why this is. I mean, when I went to the download page
it told me if I wanted to install it to Netscape browser then the file
path I should use is:

C:\ProgramFiles\Netscape\Netscape7\plug-ins

That's exactly what I did. When it asked me for the file path I put in
the file path I just quoted above. But when I went to My Computer and
opened up Netscape and looked at Plug-ins it wasn't listed, even though
the set-up program told me it was creating that file.

Did you do a Windows search for the Crescendo plug-in?

Does anyone here have any idea why Crescendo won't install as a plug-in
in Netscape and what I can do to get it to install to Netscape?

I'm pretty sure it will, but since I don't have it installed I can't check
to see where NS needs it installed. I use NS 7.2, and I looked at my files
under Programs and Application Data and seem to have media plugins in
several places.

You can go to this web page [below] and ask your questions in their Netscape
forum, or in the NS newsgroups for some free advice. I always had better
luck in the newsgroups, but you may want to try both.

http://ufaq.org/

bj

 

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

I have Crescendo Plug-in downloaded and installed on my hard drive. I am
trying to get it to work in Netscape 7, but all it will do is play in

[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]

opened up Netscape and looked at Plug-ins it wasn't listed, even though
the set-up program told me it was creating that file.

Did you do a Windows search for the Crescendo plug-in?

Does anyone here have any idea why Crescendo won't install as a plug-in
in Netscape and what I can do to get it to install to Netscape?

I'm pretty sure it will, but since I don't have it installed I can't check
to see where NS needs it installed. I use NS 7.2, and I looked at my files
under Programs and Application Data and seem to have media plugins in
several places.

You can go to this web page [below] and ask your questions in their Netscape
forum, or in the NS newsgroups for some free advice. I always had better
luck in the newsgroups, but you may want to try both.

http://ufaq.org/

bj

I went to the Forum you gave me the link for above and it CLEARLY said that
if I registered I would be able to immediately post a question to the forum.

Well I registered and it WOULD NOT let me post.


I have been trying to get a resolution to this problem for six weeks. It is
about to drive me crazy. I don't really need any more dead ends like this
forum that won't let me in.


To answer your question: Yes, I did a windows search for the plug-in using
the file path I was told to use to get it to work and I was told that the
file was unavailable.

How do I look at Programs and Applications Data? I mean, I know where
programs are on MY COMPUTER, but I have no idea where to look for
Applications Data.

And yes I too seem to have plug-ins in several places.

All I want to do is to get Crescendo Plug-in to work in Netscape so that it
will play my midi on my webpage using Netscape Browser.

Can someone PLEASE tell me how I do this?

 

[chicagofan]

I have Crescendo Plug-in downloaded and installed on my hard drive. I am
trying to get it to work in Netscape 7, but all it will do is play in IE

[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]

opened up Netscape and looked at Plug-ins it wasn't listed, even though
the set-up program told me it was creating that file.

Did you do a Windows search for the Crescendo plug-in?

Does anyone here have any idea why Crescendo won't install as a plug-in
in Netscape and what I can do to get it to install to Netscape?

I'm pretty sure it will, but since I don't have it installed I can't check
to see where NS needs it installed. I use NS 7.2, and I looked at my files
under Programs and Application Data and seem to have media plugins in
several places.

You can go to this web page [below] and ask your questions in their Netscape
forum, or in the NS newsgroups for some free advice. I always had better
luck in the newsgroups, but you may want to try both.

http://ufaq.org/

bj

I went to the Forum you gave me the link for above and it CLEARLY said that
if I registered I would be able to immediately post a question to the forum.

Well I registered and it WOULD NOT let me post.

Did you get in later today, and start the thread showing there now, iniated
by Dr.Seven? I was going to post your question for you, until I saw that.

I have been trying to get a resolution to this problem for six weeks. It is
about to drive me crazy. I don't really need any more dead ends like this
forum that won't let me in.

It is a volunteer supported site, and doesn't update or give feedback as
quickly as you would get from a commercial site. Patience... please.

To answer your question: Yes, I did a windows search for the plug-in using
the file path I was told to use to get it to work and I was told that the
file was unavailable.

How do I look at Programs and Applications Data? I mean, I know where
programs are on MY COMPUTER, but I have no idea where to look for
Applications Data.

XP is still a foreign creature to me, as it seems to have outside program
files everywhere. Other files that control Netscape [and other programs]
are also under C:\Documents and Settings\~your name~\Application
Data\Mozilla. They aren't all in the Program File.

Also FWIW my music player is under C:\Documents and Settings\~my name~\Local
Settings\Application Data also.

And yes I too seem to have plug-ins in several places.

All I want to do is to get Crescendo Plug-in to work in Netscape so that it
will play my midi on my webpage using Netscape Browser.

Can someone PLEASE tell me how I do this?

Jay Garcia is an old hand with NS, and that's his site I referred you to, if
he can't help you, there are people in the NS newsgroups who have more
patience than he does. Sorry I'm not using Crescendo, so I could be of more
help.
bj

 

[chicagofan]

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P.S. - To previous post....

All I want to do is to get Crescendo Plug-in to work in Netscape so that it
will play my midi on my webpage using Netscape Browser.

Can someone PLEASE tell me how I do this?

If you type in Netscape+Crescendo at Google... you will get a wealth of
links that may prove helpful... among these, is this one that has detailed
instructions on what to check, based on what O/S and software you have:

http://www.armadilloweb.com/Crescendo/Crescendo.shtml

bj

 

[chicagofan]

I have Crescendo Plug-in downloaded and installed on my hard drive.
I am
trying to get it to work in Netscape 7, but all it will do is play
in IE


[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]

opened up Netscape and looked at Plug-ins it wasn't listed, even though
the set-up program told me it was creating that file.


Did you do a Windows search for the Crescendo plug-in?


Does anyone here have any idea why Crescendo won't install as a plug-in
in Netscape and what I can do to get it to install to Netscape?


I'm pretty sure it will, but since I don't have it installed I can't
check
to see where NS needs it installed. I use NS 7.2, and I looked at my
files
under Programs and Application Data and seem to have media plugins in
several places.

You can go to this web page [below] and ask your questions in their
Netscape
forum, or in the NS newsgroups for some free advice. I always had
better
luck in the newsgroups, but you may want to try both.

http://ufaq.org/

bj

I went to the Forum you gave me the link for above and it CLEARLY said
that
if I registered I would be able to immediately post a question to the
forum.

Well I registered and it WOULD NOT let me post.

Did you get in later today, and start the thread showing there now,
initiated by Dr.Seven? I was going to post your question for you, until I
saw that.

I have been trying to get a resolution to this problem for six weeks.
It is
about to drive me crazy. I don't really need any more dead ends like this
forum that won't let me in.

It is a volunteer supported site, and doesn't update or give feedback as
quickly as you would get from a commercial site. Patience... please.

To answer your question: Yes, I did a windows search for the plug-in
using
the file path I was told to use to get it to work and I was told that the
file was unavailable.

How do I look at Programs and Applications Data? I mean, I know where
programs are on MY COMPUTER, but I have no idea where to look for
Applications Data.

XP is still a foreign creature to me, as it seems to have outside
program files everywhere. Other files that control Netscape [and other
programs] are also under C:\Documents and Settings\~your
name~\Application Data\Mozilla. They aren't all in the Program File.

Also FWIW my music player is under C:\Documents and Settings\~my
name~\Local Settings\Application Data also.

And yes I too seem to have plug-ins in several places.

All I want to do is to get Crescendo Plug-in to work in Netscape so
that it
will play my midi on my webpage using Netscape Browser.

Can someone PLEASE tell me how I do this?

Jay Garcia is an old hand with NS, and that's his site I referred you
to, if he can't help you, there are people in the NS newsgroups who have
more patience than he does. Sorry I'm not using Crescendo, so I could
be of more help.
bj

 

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

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Well I registered and it WOULD NOT let me post.

Did you get in later today, and start the thread showing there now, iniated
by Dr.Seven? I was going to post your question for you, until I saw that.

I have been trying to get a resolution to this problem for six weeks. It is
about to drive me crazy. I don't really need any more dead ends like this
forum that won't let me in.

It is a volunteer supported site, and doesn't update or give feedback as
quickly as you would get from a commercial site. Patience... please.

To answer your question: Yes, I did a windows search for the plug-in using
the file path I was told to use to get it to work and I was told that the

[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]

programs are on MY COMPUTER, but I have no idea where to look for
Applications Data.

XP is still a foreign creature to me, as it seems to have outside program
files everywhere. Other files that control Netscape [and other programs]
are also under C:\Documents and Settings\~your name~\Application
Data\Mozilla. They aren't all in the Program File.

Also FWIW my music player is under C:\Documents and Settings\~my name~\Local
Settings\Application Data also.

And yes I too seem to have plug-ins in several places.

All I want to do is to get Crescendo Plug-in to work in Netscape so that it
will play my midi on my webpage using Netscape Browser.

Can someone PLEASE tell me how I do this?

Jay Garcia is an old hand with NS, and that's his site I referred you to, if
he can't help you, there are people in the NS newsgroups who have more
patience than he does. Sorry I'm not using Crescendo, so I could be of more
help.
bj

I got in and I am in contact with Jay. We'll see what happens.

 

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

P.S. - To previous post....


If you type in Netscape+Crescendo at Google... you will get a wealth of
links that may prove helpful... among these, is this one that has detailed
instructions on what to check, based on what O/S and software you have:

http://www.armadilloweb.com/Crescendo/Crescendo.shtml

bj

the armadilloweb site is where I downloaded Crescendo player from and that's
where I was told to put in this file path:

C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape7\Plug-ins.

And when I put in that file path it just put it in IE anyway.

How frustrating!

I will check google as you suggested. It can't get any more hopeless.

 

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

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bj

the armadilloweb site is where I downloaded Crescendo player from and that's
where I was told to put in this file path:

C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape7\Plug-ins.

And when I put in that file path it just put it in IE anyway.

How frustrating!

I will check google as you suggested. It can't get any more hopeless.

I found a page that said to check the plug-ins page and that I should see
something called
npmidi.dll and sequence.dll. Well, I checked and the npmidi.dll is there,
but not the sequence.dll.

And it says to check with liveupdate.com. But when one clicks on liveupdate
you get the message that the connection is refused.

So unless someone can tell me how to get sequence.dll (which I suspect is the
actual midi console) then it seems hopeless.

 

[chicagofan]

<>

[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

bj

the armadilloweb site is where I downloaded Crescendo player from and that's
where I was told to put in this file path:

C:\Program Files\Netscape\Netscape7\Plug-ins.

And when I put in that file path it just put it in IE anyway.

How frustrating!

I will check google as you suggested. It can't get any more hopeless.

I found a page that said to check the plug-ins page and that I should see
something called
npmidi.dll and sequence.dll. Well, I checked and the npmidi.dll is there,
but not the sequence.dll.

And it says to check with liveupdate.com. But when one clicks on liveupdate
you get the message that the connection is refused.

So unless someone can tell me how to get sequence.dll (which I suspect is the
actual midi console) then it seems hopeless.

I've seen some instructions that include sequence.dll and some that do not.
Perhaps if you disable WMP, Quicktime or anything else from playing midi's
you won't need a sequence file.

Have you seen this instruction anywhere [From Silly Dog]:

What you need to do if you want to use Crescendo, is to go into Windows
MediaPlayer Tools | Options and disable the MIDI file option. The Helper
Application (MediaPlayer) is overriding the Crescendo plugin.


Required Files for Mozilla and Netscape
The following files are required in your "Plugins Folder".

* CresObserver.class
* CresPlayer.class
* crestest.html
* crest.mid
* npmidi32.dll
* npmp332.dll
<snip>

Just FWIW...
bj

In some installations where Netscape Communicator, Netscape 7.x, and Mozilla
are installed Crescendo will install in only one "Plugins Folder", to get
Crescendo to play on the other browsers locate the file:
"CresObserver.class". With this file you will find all the above files, copy
and paste the above files into your respective browser "Plugins Folder".
Close all browsers and re-open your browser to read the new plugin files.

 

[Gary Peterson via WindowsKB.com]

[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]

So unless someone can tell me how to get sequence.dll (which I suspect is the
actual midi console) then it seems hopeless.

I've seen some instructions that include sequence.dll and some that do not.
Perhaps if you disable WMP, Quicktime or anything else from playing midi's
you won't need a sequence file.

Have you seen this instruction anywhere [From Silly Dog]:

What you need to do if you want to use Crescendo, is to go into Windows
MediaPlayer Tools | Options and disable the MIDI file option. The Helper
Application (MediaPlayer) is overriding the Crescendo plugin.

Required Files for Mozilla and Netscape
The following files are required in your "Plugins Folder".

* CresObserver.class
* CresPlayer.class
* crestest.html
* crest.mid
* npmidi32.dll
* npmp332.dll
<snip>

Just FWIW...
bj

In some installations where Netscape Communicator, Netscape 7.x, and Mozilla
are installed Crescendo will install in only one "Plugins Folder", to get
Crescendo to play on the other browsers locate the file:
"CresObserver.class". With this file you will find all the above files, copy
and paste the above files into your respective browser "Plugins Folder".
Close all browsers and re-open your browser to read the new plugin files.

I don't need to copy CresObserver.class into Netscape because it is already
in IE and in Netscape.

I don't want to disable WMP because it plays the midi in IE.

What I want to be able to do is to play the midi in Netscape using Crescendo
because WMP won't play the midi in Netscape.

So I guess we're back to square one.

How do I get Crescendo to play the midi in Netscape while I already have WMP
playing the midi in IE?

In other words, is there anyway to get Crescendo to play as as standalone
in Netscape without having to disable WMP so that it will still play the midi
in IE?

Since both browsers read code differently it seems like it would be possible
to have WMP for IE and Crescendo for Netscape. Isn't there some code that I
could put on my website for Netscape that would let Crescendo play the midi,
some code that WMP would ignore?