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B&C

I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with service
pack 2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all the
program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and it seem
to be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail, PrintMaster 17,
Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the 100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back down to
around 3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the
worst, changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again and it
waits/loads as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge 435M to
470M of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808 and
available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around 30,000 paged
& 20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus 2007;
Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender, and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional Editon
(online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no critical issues;
Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard disk, Modem) - with no
problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics (Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel Pentium
4 CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with service
pack 2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used space:
56.2 GB, Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80%
range when opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real
well, loading programs/web pages quickly. )
 
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

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B&C said:
I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with service pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all the
program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and it seem to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail, PrintMaster 17,
Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the 100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back down to around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the worst,
changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again and it waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge 435M to 470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808 and
available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around 30,000 paged &
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus 2007;
Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender, and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional Editon
(online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no critical issues;
Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard disk, Modem) - with no
problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics (Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel Pentium 4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with service pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used space: 56.2 GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80% range when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real well,
loading programs/web pages quickly. )
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I performed the registry cleaner; cleaned out LOTS of stuff, but it didn't
solve the problem.
How do I startup in Safemode?


db ´¯`·.. > said:
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

--

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.


B&C said:
I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it
right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some CPU's?
I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would appreciate
what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU
1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with service
pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all the
program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and it
seem to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail, PrintMaster 17,
Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the 100% of my computer's
CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back down to
around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the worst,
changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again and it
waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge 435M to
470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808 and
available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around 30,000
paged &
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus 2007;
Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender, and it is
clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional Editon
(online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no critical issues;
Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard disk, Modem) - with no
problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics (Memory, IDE hard disk) - with
no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel
Pentium 4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with service
pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used space: 56.2
GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80% range
when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real well,
loading programs/web pages quickly. )
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
You should be aware that Windows Live Onecare does not come with a
universal seal of approval. I would want evidence that Incredimail is a
major contributor to your problems before considering uninstalling.

Some points arise from your original post. That your CPU usage hits 100%
is not of itself a problem. It is a problem if it does this for the
wrong or an unexplained reason. You need to identify the process or
application that generates such usage. This is indicated in Windows Task
Manager, which you have already visited. A better tool for investigating
CPU usage is Process Explorer (freeware).

Download Process Explorer.

For further information about Process Explorer see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx

It would be helpful if you could post the Command Line of the process
generating the excessive CPU usage. In Process Explorer place
cursor on Process and select Properties, Image.

To ascertain which service is causing the problem select the image
producing the high CPU usage, right click, select Properties,
Services. Note there are the full names and some explanation of what
each service does.

You will find further information on Services here:
http://majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=12

To trace the particular Service involved you need to turn off each
service in turn and then restore it noting what effect it has on CPU
usage. However, you need to take care and watch what other Services
are dependent on that service. When you click on the Dependencies
tab allow it a little time to display the information.

Often unexplained CPU usage is the result of spyware that slips through
the defences. Even though you think your system is clean you should not
totally rule this out as a possibility. This Article is worth a read:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

What Add Ons are you using with Internet Explorer? In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Manage Add Ons, Enable or Disable Add-Ons. Try disabling
all Add Ons and see what impact it has on system performance. If it
makes a significant difference try adding one back at a time and observe
for effect.

Also with regard to Internet Explorer do you have lots of windows / tabs
open at any one time. Try closing windows after use. Same applies with
any application, close after use, unless you intend to return in the
near future.

Do you leave your computer on 24/7? This has a cumulative adverse impact
on system performance.

You may have over many programmes opening on booting your computer!
Review the list and see if you can change some to load on demand. Many
users advocate using msconfig but a better freeware utility is
Autoruns.Use Autoruns to find any unwanted start ups!

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx

McAfee and Norton are not popular with many users in these newsgroups.
The reason being that they require a lot of resources to service their
requirements. There are a number of freeware alternatives that do as
good a job without bringing with them all the baggage that comes with
McAfee and Norton software. McAfee may be part of your problem. When is
it scheduled to do a full scan? Does this time correspond with when the
most problems occur?

Please open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report
and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Preferably as it is now and not after running
Disk Defragmenter.

Next select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
System Restore points? Restore points can be quite large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. This is also advisable after Outlook
Express folders have been compacted. Whenever you remove large numbers
of redundant files you should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting
Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

Another important source of information is Event Viewer. Have you looked
at Error and Warning Reports since the computer was last booted?

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




B&C said:
I performed the registry cleaner; cleaned out LOTS of stuff, but it
didn't solve the problem.
How do I startup in Safemode?


" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ."
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. said:
<)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
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.


B&C said:
I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it
right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some
CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would
appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU
1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with
service pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all
the program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and
it seem to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail,
PrintMaster 17, Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the
100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back
down to around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the
worst, changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again
and it waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge
435M to 470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808
and available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around
30,000 paged &
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus
2007; Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender,
and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional
Editon (online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no
critical issues; Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard
disk, Modem) - with no problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics
(Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel
Pentium 4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with
service pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used
space: 56.2 GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80%
range when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real
well, loading programs/web pages quickly. )
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Thank you for the advice. I will check into all the information you gave
me,
and will reply... it will be a few days before I am able to. THANKS


Gerry said:
You should be aware that Windows Live Onecare does not come with a
universal seal of approval. I would want evidence that Incredimail is a
major contributor to your problems before considering uninstalling.

Some points arise from your original post. That your CPU usage hits 100%
is not of itself a problem. It is a problem if it does this for the wrong
or an unexplained reason. You need to identify the process or application
that generates such usage. This is indicated in Windows Task Manager,
which you have already visited. A better tool for investigating CPU usage
is Process Explorer (freeware).

Download Process Explorer.

For further information about Process Explorer see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx

It would be helpful if you could post the Command Line of the process
generating the excessive CPU usage. In Process Explorer place
cursor on Process and select Properties, Image.

To ascertain which service is causing the problem select the image
producing the high CPU usage, right click, select Properties,
Services. Note there are the full names and some explanation of what
each service does.

You will find further information on Services here:
http://majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=12

To trace the particular Service involved you need to turn off each
service in turn and then restore it noting what effect it has on CPU
usage. However, you need to take care and watch what other Services
are dependent on that service. When you click on the Dependencies
tab allow it a little time to display the information.

Often unexplained CPU usage is the result of spyware that slips through
the defences. Even though you think your system is clean you should not
totally rule this out as a possibility. This Article is worth a read:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

What Add Ons are you using with Internet Explorer? In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Manage Add Ons, Enable or Disable Add-Ons. Try disabling all
Add Ons and see what impact it has on system performance. If it makes a
significant difference try adding one back at a time and observe for
effect.

Also with regard to Internet Explorer do you have lots of windows / tabs
open at any one time. Try closing windows after use. Same applies with any
application, close after use, unless you intend to return in the near
future.

Do you leave your computer on 24/7? This has a cumulative adverse impact
on system performance.

You may have over many programmes opening on booting your computer! Review
the list and see if you can change some to load on demand. Many users
advocate using msconfig but a better freeware utility is Autoruns.Use
Autoruns to find any unwanted start ups!

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx

McAfee and Norton are not popular with many users in these newsgroups. The
reason being that they require a lot of resources to service their
requirements. There are a number of freeware alternatives that do as good
a job without bringing with them all the baggage that comes with McAfee
and Norton software. McAfee may be part of your problem. When is it
scheduled to do a full scan? Does this time correspond with when the most
problems occur?

Please open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report
and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Preferably as it is now and not after running Disk
Defragmenter.

Next select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore
points? Restore points can be quite large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove
Temporary Internet Files. This is also advisable after Outlook Express
folders have been compacted. Whenever you remove large numbers of
redundant files you should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting
Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

Another important source of information is Event Viewer. Have you looked
at Error and Warning Reports since the computer was last booted?

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




B&C said:
I performed the registry cleaner; cleaned out LOTS of stuff, but it
didn't solve the problem.
How do I startup in Safemode?


" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ."
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
<)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>


.


I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it
right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some
CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would
appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU
1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with
service pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all
the program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and
it seem to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail,
PrintMaster 17, Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the
100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back
down to around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the
worst, changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again
and it waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge
435M to 470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808
and available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around
30,000 paged &
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus
2007; Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender,
and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional
Editon (online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no
critical issues; Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard
disk, Modem) - with no problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics
(Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel
Pentium 4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with
service pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used
space: 56.2 GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80%
range when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real
well, loading programs/web pages quickly. )
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ll/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx?mfr=true

if windows works better
in safemode, then there
is something being run
in normal mode that is
bogging down your pc.


--

db ·´¯`·.¸. said:
<)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
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B&C said:
I performed the registry cleaner; cleaned out LOTS of stuff, but it didn't
solve the problem.
How do I startup in Safemode?


db ´¯`·.. > said:
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. said:
<)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
Click to expand...


.


B&C said:
I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with service
pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all the
program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and it seem
to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail, PrintMaster 17,
Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the 100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back down to
around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the worst,
changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again and it
waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge 435M to
470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808 and
available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around 30,000 paged
&
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus 2007;
Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender, and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional Editon
(online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no critical issues;
Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard disk, Modem) - with no
problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics (Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel Pentium
4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with service pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used space: 56.2
GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80% range when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real well,
loading programs/web pages quickly. )
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Sorry for the long delay in answering... medical issues. Process explorer
showed
me the culprit, and the computer is running back to about normal now.
Thanks again.

B&C said:
Thank you for the advice. I will check into all the information you gave
me,
and will reply... it will be a few days before I am able to. THANKS


Gerry said:
You should be aware that Windows Live Onecare does not come with a
universal seal of approval. I would want evidence that Incredimail is a
major contributor to your problems before considering uninstalling.

Some points arise from your original post. That your CPU usage hits 100%
is not of itself a problem. It is a problem if it does this for the wrong
or an unexplained reason. You need to identify the process or application
that generates such usage. This is indicated in Windows Task Manager,
which you have already visited. A better tool for investigating CPU usage
is Process Explorer (freeware).

Download Process Explorer.

For further information about Process Explorer see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx

It would be helpful if you could post the Command Line of the process
generating the excessive CPU usage. In Process Explorer place
cursor on Process and select Properties, Image.

To ascertain which service is causing the problem select the image
producing the high CPU usage, right click, select Properties,
Services. Note there are the full names and some explanation of what
each service does.

You will find further information on Services here:
http://majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=12

To trace the particular Service involved you need to turn off each
service in turn and then restore it noting what effect it has on CPU
usage. However, you need to take care and watch what other Services
are dependent on that service. When you click on the Dependencies
tab allow it a little time to display the information.

Often unexplained CPU usage is the result of spyware that slips through
the defences. Even though you think your system is clean you should not
totally rule this out as a possibility. This Article is worth a read:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

What Add Ons are you using with Internet Explorer? In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Manage Add Ons, Enable or Disable Add-Ons. Try disabling
all Add Ons and see what impact it has on system performance. If it makes
a significant difference try adding one back at a time and observe for
effect.

Also with regard to Internet Explorer do you have lots of windows / tabs
open at any one time. Try closing windows after use. Same applies with
any application, close after use, unless you intend to return in the near
future.

Do you leave your computer on 24/7? This has a cumulative adverse impact
on system performance.

You may have over many programmes opening on booting your computer!
Review the list and see if you can change some to load on demand. Many
users advocate using msconfig but a better freeware utility is
Autoruns.Use Autoruns to find any unwanted start ups!

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx

McAfee and Norton are not popular with many users in these newsgroups.
The reason being that they require a lot of resources to service their
requirements. There are a number of freeware alternatives that do as good
a job without bringing with them all the baggage that comes with McAfee
and Norton software. McAfee may be part of your problem. When is it
scheduled to do a full scan? Does this time correspond with when the most
problems occur?

Please open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report
and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Preferably as it is now and not after running
Disk Defragmenter.

Next select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore
points? Restore points can be quite large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. This is also advisable after Outlook
Express folders have been compacted. Whenever you remove large numbers of
redundant files you should always run Disk Defragmenter by selecting
Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter.

Another important source of information is Event Viewer. Have you looked
at Error and Warning Reports since the computer was last booted?

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




B&C said:
I performed the registry cleaner; cleaned out LOTS of stuff, but it
didn't solve the problem.
How do I startup in Safemode?


" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ."
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
<)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>


.


I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing it
right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some
CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would
appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4 CPU
1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with
service pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with all
the program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs, and
it seem to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times terrible!

Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7, IncrediMail,
PrintMaster 17, Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the
100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back
down to around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the
worst, changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100% again
and it waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge
435M to 470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of 523,808
and available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K) is around
30,000 paged &
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan Plus
2007; Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows Defender,
and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support Professional
Editon (online diagnostic tools): System Health Scan - with no
critical issues; Hardware Diagnostics (Processor, Memory, IDE hard
disk, Modem) - with no problems noted; and Advanced Diagnostics
(Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram; Intel
Pentium 4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with
service pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used
space: 56.2 GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80%
range when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real
well, loading programs/web pages quickly. )
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
B&C

Thanks for reporting the outcome. Glad you solved the problem.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


B&C said:
Sorry for the long delay in answering... medical issues. Process
explorer showed
me the culprit, and the computer is running back to about normal now.
Thanks again.

B&C said:
Thank you for the advice. I will check into all the information you
gave me,
and will reply... it will be a few days before I am able to. THANKS


Gerry said:
You should be aware that Windows Live Onecare does not come with a
universal seal of approval. I would want evidence that Incredimail
is a major contributor to your problems before considering
uninstalling. Some points arise from your original post. That your
CPU usage hits
100% is not of itself a problem. It is a problem if it does this
for the wrong or an unexplained reason. You need to identify the
process or application that generates such usage. This is indicated
in Windows Task Manager, which you have already visited. A better
tool for investigating CPU usage is Process Explorer (freeware).

Download Process Explorer.

For further information about Process Explorer see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx

It would be helpful if you could post the Command Line of the
process generating the excessive CPU usage. In Process Explorer
place cursor on Process and select Properties, Image.

To ascertain which service is causing the problem select the image
producing the high CPU usage, right click, select Properties,
Services. Note there are the full names and some explanation of what
each service does.

You will find further information on Services here:
http://majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=12

To trace the particular Service involved you need to turn off each
service in turn and then restore it noting what effect it has on CPU
usage. However, you need to take care and watch what other Services
are dependent on that service. When you click on the Dependencies
tab allow it a little time to display the information.

Often unexplained CPU usage is the result of spyware that slips
through the defences. Even though you think your system is clean
you should not totally rule this out as a possibility. This Article
is worth a read:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware What
Add Ons are you using with Internet Explorer? In Internet
Explorer select Tools, Manage Add Ons, Enable or Disable Add-Ons.
Try disabling all Add Ons and see what impact it has on system
performance. If it makes a significant difference try adding one
back at a time and observe for effect.

Also with regard to Internet Explorer do you have lots of windows /
tabs open at any one time. Try closing windows after use. Same
applies with any application, close after use, unless you intend to
return in the near future.

Do you leave your computer on 24/7? This has a cumulative adverse
impact on system performance.

You may have over many programmes opening on booting your computer!
Review the list and see if you can change some to load on demand.
Many users advocate using msconfig but a better freeware utility is
Autoruns.Use Autoruns to find any unwanted start ups!

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx

McAfee and Norton are not popular with many users in these
newsgroups. The reason being that they require a lot of resources
to service their requirements. There are a number of freeware
alternatives that do as good a job without bringing with them all
the baggage that comes with McAfee and Norton software. McAfee may
be part of your problem. When is it scheduled to do a full scan?
Does this time correspond with when the most problems occur?

Please open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View
Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your
My Documents Folder and post a copy. Preferably as it is now and
not after running Disk Defragmenter.

Next select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
System Restore points? Restore points can be quite large.

You should use Disk CleanUp regularly to Empty your Recycle Bin and
Remove Temporary Internet Files. This is also advisable after
Outlook Express folders have been compacted. Whenever you remove
large numbers of redundant files you should always run Disk
Defragmenter by selecting Start, All Programs, Accessories, System
Tools, Disk Defragmenter. Another important source of information is
Event Viewer. Have you
looked at Error and Warning Reports since the computer was last
booted? You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control
Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body
of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




B&C wrote:
I performed the registry cleaner; cleaned out LOTS of stuff, but it
didn't solve the problem.
How do I startup in Safemode?


" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ."
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message
well, i think that
incredimail should be
uninstalled.

however, one way to compare
your system is to see how
well the computer works
in safemode.

in safemode, your pc is
basically running pure
windows.

in normal mode your pc is
running windows and
everything that is non
windows.

so comparing the two
enviroments above
would be helpful in
determining whether
windows is faulty or
if the programs running
are causing windows
problems.

otherwise, there are
many variables that
can cause the problems
you mentioned, including
hardware malfuntions.

one of the variables may
simply be an issue caused
by the registry. however
this is only an example. if
it were the registry, then
this would be of some help:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
<)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>


.


I hope I'm at the right place; I'm new at this & hope I'm doing
it right...
here goes...

CPU - What takes up the computer's CPU's? How do I free up some
CPU's? I
have just a little knowledge of computers/lingo, but would
appreciate what
ever advice I could get.



My computer: Feb. 2002; HP 780n; 512MB Ram; Intel Pentium 4
CPU 1.80GHz;
Windows XP Home - Upgraded to XP Professional, version 2002 with
service pack
2. [used space: 73.9 GB, Free Space: 33.1GB] I keep up with
all the program's latest updates. I have a highband cable ISP.



A few months back I have started to have slow loading programs,
and it seem to
be getting worse. Sometimes not so bad, and other times
terrible! Large programs, such as Internet Explorer 7,
IncrediMail,
PrintMaster 17, Yahoo Music Jukebox, etc. have started to hit the
100% of my computer's CPU
useage on program start-up, after load-up the useage drops back
down to around
3 or 4 %. Internet Explorer (web based programs) seem to be the
worst, changing Web pages/sites jumps the CPU useage to 100%
again and it waits/loads
as if I was on a poor dial-up ISP.



The Windows Task Manager shows usually 49 process; Commit Charge
435M to 470M
of 1246M; The Physical Memory (K) runs around: a total of
523,808 and available 100,000 to 150,000; The Kernel Memory (K)
is around 30,000 paged &
20,000 Nonpaged.



I have scanned the computer with up to date: McAfee VirusScan
Plus 2007; Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Plus; and Microsoft Windows
Defender, and it is clean.



I ran the HP Help and Support Center, Instant Support
Professional Editon (online diagnostic tools): System Health
Scan - with no critical issues; Hardware Diagnostics (Processor,
Memory, IDE hard disk, Modem) - with no problems noted; and
Advanced Diagnostics (Memory, IDE hard disk) - with no
problems noted).



( I also have a: Feb. 2004; HP zd7000 Laptop; 1.00 GB Ram;
Intel Pentium 4
CPU 3.20GHz; Windows XP Media Center Edition, version 2002 with
service pack
2. With about the same exact programs as the HP 780n. [used
space: 56.2 GB,
Free Space: 18.2GB] The CPU usage on it tops around the 75-80%
range when
opening the mentioned programs. This computer still operates real
well, loading programs/web pages quickly. )
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