Could Memory Dump error in Blue Screen Caused by Other than memory?

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Could be other than physical memory error ? I remember I had two or
three memory dump error in blue screen and I don't think there is
anything physical wrong with DDR memory. I've been using same memory
for long time without serious problem and refused to upgrade old
PC. This could be caused by HD (hard drive) suddenly stop. I noticed
the HD is inactivated when issued memory error. The system halt and I
restarted it the BIOS did not catch HD and I did not heard HD
rotation which indicated the HD is halt. I reconnected HD power
connection and everything back to normal. There must be bad contact
between HD and PS.
 
Red Cloud said:
Could be other than physical memory error ? I remember I had two or
three memory dump error in blue screen and I don't think there is
anything physical wrong with DDR memory. I've been using same memory
for long time without serious problem and refused to upgrade old
PC. This could be caused by HD (hard drive) suddenly stop. I noticed
the HD is inactivated when issued memory error. The system halt and I
restarted it the BIOS did not catch HD and I did not heard HD
rotation which indicated the HD is halt. I reconnected HD power
connection and everything back to normal. There must be bad contact
between HD and PS.
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It's a dump of what's in memory, not necessarily the RAM itself. Use one of
these to read the dump and give you a clue of what may be wrong:
BSOD Viewer http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
WhoCrashed http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

If you're having to disconnect/reconnect the HDD often, it's probably either
the power supply or the hard drive itself.
 
SC said:
It's a dump of what's in memory, not necessarily the RAM itself. Use one
of these to read the dump and give you a clue of what may be wrong:
BSOD Viewer http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
WhoCrashed http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

If you're having to disconnect/reconnect the HDD often, it's probably
either the power supply or the hard drive itself.
Click to expand...

When reading the dumps, you take note of any specific software mentioned.
For example, if all the dumps involve an Nvidia video driver, then you'd
have a suspicion it's not your memory :-) It's a video card drive or
video card hardware issue.

when you read the dumps, and the error numbers and descriptions have
no common theme, *then* you might start to suspect memory. Or even,
a bad CPU.

Paul
 
Could be other than physical memory error ? I remember I had two or
three memory dump error in blue screen and I don't think there is
anything physical wrong with DDR memory. I've been using same memory
for long time without serious problem and refused to upgrade old
PC. This could be caused by HD (hard drive) suddenly stop. I noticed
the HD is inactivated when issued memory error. The system halt and I
restarted it the BIOS did not catch HD and I did not heard HD
rotation which indicated the HD is halt. I reconnected HD power
connection and everything back to normal. There must be bad contact
between HD and PS.
Click to expand...

Could be.

It's a generic sort of thingy that can happen either way. Meaning,
you've got hardware issues or the software is gotten to the point that
it's buggered.

*Nice* hardware can be like clockwork, depending, when triggering a
system fault -- whereas software can be nothing short of insidious,
requiring a system reinstall. Reason for ghosting binary images,
which if kept reasonably clean (tested prior to creation), can last as
long as conceivably there's a sky for upholding things. Plus side
there, if a fresh software install takes without further issues, wipe
your hands off and you're done (or, it was something done afterwards
that's causing new problems).

Time factoring. If all of a sudden you slap in a new device, install
a new program, though, that's something else when the system
immediately pukes.
 
Could be other than physical memory error ? I remember I had two or
three memory dump error in blue screen and I don't think there is
anything physical wrong with DDR memory. I've been using same memory
for long time without serious problem and refused to upgrade old
PC. This could be caused by HD (hard drive) suddenly stop. I noticed
the HD is inactivated when issued memory error. The system halt and I
restarted it the BIOS did not catch HD and I did not heard HD
rotation which indicated the HD is halt. I reconnected HD power
connection and everything back to normal. There must be bad contact
between HD and PS.
Click to expand...

I've got something flaky in this box that causes an occasional stop
7A. I see no reason to think it's memory.

It started behaving a lot better when I got rid of the Intel drivers
for the RAID chipset but it's still not perfect.
 
When reading the dumps, you take note of any specific software mentioned.
For example, if all the dumps involve an Nvidia video driver, then you'd
have a suspicion it's not your memory :-) It's a video card drive or
video card hardware issue.

when you read the dumps, and the error numbers and descriptions have
no common theme, *then* you might start to suspect memory. Or even,
a bad CPU.

    Paul
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What if HD momentarily stop working while the Firefox is trying to
write or read from virtual memory (which is HD actually )?
 
What if HD momentarily stop working while the Firefox is trying to
write or read from virtual memory (which is HD actually )?
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If Firefox is what's getting stuck, then chances are likely one of your
Firefox Add-ins are doing it. Look up "Safe Mode in Firefox", and you'll
see if it's your add-ins that are at fault or not.

Yousuf Khan
 
Could be other than physical memory error ? I remember I had two or
three memory dump error in blue screen and I don't think there is
anything physical wrong with DDR memory. I've been using same memory
for long time without serious problem and refused to upgrade old
PC. This could be caused by HD (hard drive) suddenly stop.
Click to expand...

The best ways to test the HD are with the HD manufacturer's diagnostic
or Seagate's Sea Tools (works on all brands) or self-booting generic
diagnostics like HDAT2 or MHDD, but the latter two may not like HDs
bigger than 1TB.

I think I've gotten those errors because of problems with Windows
or driver software, but the only way to rule out memory is by
substituting known good memory, and I don't mean something that
never gave you errors before but something made of name brand RAM
chips (Samsung, Nanya, Micron, Hynix, ProMOS, or PowerChip, not
Corsair, Mushkin, Kingston, G.Skill, Patriot, Geil, etc.)) that
are not factory overclocked (as they almost always are when
covered with heatsinks). You also have to know if your PSU and
the motherboard's voltage regulators are all putting out good
voltage to the CPU and memory.

What memory, PSU, and motherboard do you have?
 
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