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I copied photos to a CD-R, I arranged them in order in my folder but as I view them in the WRITE THESE, they rearrange themselves, why is this and how do I keep them in order?
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Yves Alarie
When you arrange your thumbnails and you view a slide show, they will be
displayed in the order you have them. However, close the folder and open it
and you will see that the order is lost. This is because softwares will list
(or sort) files in numerical/alphabetical order.
There is an easy way to get what you want. You sort your thumbnails and once
sorted you rename the files so that the proper order will be maintained.
Once done, you copy to CD.
If you need to batch rename and number, you can do this easily with XP.
Copy the photos to a new folder.
Open the new folder. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter A. This
will select (highlight in blue) all the files in the folder.
Right click on the first file (important to right click on the first file
because renaming will start from there).
Click on Rename on the opening menu.
Type in the name you want, to replace the current name. Any system will
work, such as year, month, event. For example type in:
2003_09_Virginia Beach Vacation (1).jpg
and press Enter.
XP will automatically rename all the files (1), (2), (3), etc. and they will
open in the order (1), (2), (3), etc.
Two important things when renaming using the above method.
1. Look at the name of the above file, you must include a space between the
last character of the file name and (1)
2. When you rename, don't forget to add .jpg after (1). If you forget, XP
will warn you, so enter .jpg after this warning. If you don't, you will not
be able to open the file. If you still do not enter .jpg after the warning,
don't worry. Rename again and enter .jpg
You can rename any time and as many times as you want. You are not dependent
on the camera wizard to rename.
You can rename portions of files in a folder, just select the group you want
and right click on the first one and rename from there.
You can do even better than this. Suppose you want a slide show and you want
the last three pictures taken to be the first three or in between some other
photos. Easy to do. Open the folder in thumbnail view, use your mouse to
place them in the order you want. Select all the photos and rename. The (1),
(2), (3), etc will be added in the order you placed the thumbnails.
Convenient if you want to make a slide show of pictures from different
folders. Just make a new folder, copy the photos you want in the new folder,
place the thumbnails in the order you want and rename.
You are not restricted to only one name and you can control the order in
which each group will open, by placing a number up front of the file name
for each group. You may have photos of Christmas, Easter, New Year etc. and
of different years. Once you have the thumbnails in the order you want,
select the first group, right click on the first thumbnail in the group and
rename:
1_2002 Easter (1).jpg
Then select the second group and rename
2_2002 Christmas (1).jpg
Placing 1_, 2_, etc in front will control the order of each group and (1)
controls the order within each group.
If you want to add another group later and you want these photos to be, say
between 1_ and 2_, use 1a_ in front of the file name.
You may also want to add some more photos in a particular group, say your
Christmas group. No problem. Copy the files in the folder, move the
thumbnails in the group you want to add them to. Select all the thumbnails
in the group, right click on the first one and rename. When you rename, you
must change the name in order for rename to take place. Add something like
XYZ after Christmas. Once renaming is done, select the same files again and
rename again. Remove the XYZ and you will be back to the original name.
Note: There is a disadvantage to changing the original name of files. This
is why I recommend at the start to make a new folder and copy your original
files in the new folder before renaming. The disadvantage is this. Many have
the option of video out from the camera to display the pictures from the
memory card to a TV for a slide show. If you change the file names and copy
the files back to your memory card to display on your TV (or even to just
look at them on the LCD of the camera) your camera will not be able to read
the files. You can always rename, using the same format (8 characters) that
your camera uses, but now you have to rename each file. So, be careful what
you do with your original files.
Note: Although I recommend making a new folder and copying your files there
before renaming, there is also another way to do this and you may prefer
this once you are comfortable with renaming. Here is how to do it.
Open the folder to see your files. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the
letter A to select (highlight in blue) all the files. Hold the Ctrl key down
and press the letter C. This makes a copy of all the files to your
clipboard. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter V. This copies
(pastes) all the files back in your folder. The file names will be the same,
but the words "Copy of" will be in front of the file names. You then rename
Copy of files.
This way your original files and renamed files are in the same folder.
This is also very useful when you want to edit a photo with software. You
always edit "Copy of", never edit your original file.
You can also use Irfanview to rename, available here for free:
http://www.irfanview.com/
Or many others if you search via google. They all have their quirks.
do I keep them in order?
displayed in the order you have them. However, close the folder and open it
and you will see that the order is lost. This is because softwares will list
(or sort) files in numerical/alphabetical order.
There is an easy way to get what you want. You sort your thumbnails and once
sorted you rename the files so that the proper order will be maintained.
Once done, you copy to CD.
If you need to batch rename and number, you can do this easily with XP.
Copy the photos to a new folder.
Open the new folder. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter A. This
will select (highlight in blue) all the files in the folder.
Right click on the first file (important to right click on the first file
because renaming will start from there).
Click on Rename on the opening menu.
Type in the name you want, to replace the current name. Any system will
work, such as year, month, event. For example type in:
2003_09_Virginia Beach Vacation (1).jpg
and press Enter.
XP will automatically rename all the files (1), (2), (3), etc. and they will
open in the order (1), (2), (3), etc.
Two important things when renaming using the above method.
1. Look at the name of the above file, you must include a space between the
last character of the file name and (1)
2. When you rename, don't forget to add .jpg after (1). If you forget, XP
will warn you, so enter .jpg after this warning. If you don't, you will not
be able to open the file. If you still do not enter .jpg after the warning,
don't worry. Rename again and enter .jpg
You can rename any time and as many times as you want. You are not dependent
on the camera wizard to rename.
You can rename portions of files in a folder, just select the group you want
and right click on the first one and rename from there.
You can do even better than this. Suppose you want a slide show and you want
the last three pictures taken to be the first three or in between some other
photos. Easy to do. Open the folder in thumbnail view, use your mouse to
place them in the order you want. Select all the photos and rename. The (1),
(2), (3), etc will be added in the order you placed the thumbnails.
Convenient if you want to make a slide show of pictures from different
folders. Just make a new folder, copy the photos you want in the new folder,
place the thumbnails in the order you want and rename.
You are not restricted to only one name and you can control the order in
which each group will open, by placing a number up front of the file name
for each group. You may have photos of Christmas, Easter, New Year etc. and
of different years. Once you have the thumbnails in the order you want,
select the first group, right click on the first thumbnail in the group and
rename:
1_2002 Easter (1).jpg
Then select the second group and rename
2_2002 Christmas (1).jpg
Placing 1_, 2_, etc in front will control the order of each group and (1)
controls the order within each group.
If you want to add another group later and you want these photos to be, say
between 1_ and 2_, use 1a_ in front of the file name.
You may also want to add some more photos in a particular group, say your
Christmas group. No problem. Copy the files in the folder, move the
thumbnails in the group you want to add them to. Select all the thumbnails
in the group, right click on the first one and rename. When you rename, you
must change the name in order for rename to take place. Add something like
XYZ after Christmas. Once renaming is done, select the same files again and
rename again. Remove the XYZ and you will be back to the original name.
Note: There is a disadvantage to changing the original name of files. This
is why I recommend at the start to make a new folder and copy your original
files in the new folder before renaming. The disadvantage is this. Many have
the option of video out from the camera to display the pictures from the
memory card to a TV for a slide show. If you change the file names and copy
the files back to your memory card to display on your TV (or even to just
look at them on the LCD of the camera) your camera will not be able to read
the files. You can always rename, using the same format (8 characters) that
your camera uses, but now you have to rename each file. So, be careful what
you do with your original files.
Note: Although I recommend making a new folder and copying your files there
before renaming, there is also another way to do this and you may prefer
this once you are comfortable with renaming. Here is how to do it.
Open the folder to see your files. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the
letter A to select (highlight in blue) all the files. Hold the Ctrl key down
and press the letter C. This makes a copy of all the files to your
clipboard. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter V. This copies
(pastes) all the files back in your folder. The file names will be the same,
but the words "Copy of" will be in front of the file names. You then rename
Copy of files.
This way your original files and renamed files are in the same folder.
This is also very useful when you want to edit a photo with software. You
always edit "Copy of", never edit your original file.
You can also use Irfanview to rename, available here for free:
http://www.irfanview.com/
Or many others if you search via google. They all have their quirks.
view them in the WRITE THESE, they rearrange themselves, why is this and howSam said:I copied photos to a CD-R, I arranged them in order in my folder but as I
do I keep them in order?
G
Guest
Are you sure that will work to copy the picture files to another folder? I was afraid to try it, because the last time I tried copying them to anything they rearranged back to a/n order
I had 100 plus files I wanted individual names rather than one name description. When I prefixed them with a number I forgot to use three digits on all numbers, so it arranged them 1, 10, 11 - - -,100, 101 - ----, 20, 21 and so forth
Surely somewhere there is a program that leaves the files as the user arranges them and not the way MS wants them arranged.
I had 100 plus files I wanted individual names rather than one name description. When I prefixed them with a number I forgot to use three digits on all numbers, so it arranged them 1, 10, 11 - - -,100, 101 - ----, 20, 21 and so forth
Surely somewhere there is a program that leaves the files as the user arranges them and not the way MS wants them arranged.
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Yves Alarie
We are both right, but we need to understand each other about how to rename.
Look at my description again. It is different than what you want. I rename
"groups" of pictures, not individual pictures. So adding (1) at the end of a
file name and renaming all the files in the "group" the same name I end up
with
Christmas (1).jpg
Christmas (2).jpg
etc.
I can then control groups, by placing a number in front:
1_Christmas (1).jpg , (2), (3) etc
2_Easter (1).jpg ,(2), (3) etc.
You want your pictures to have individual names. If so, you cannot batch
rename. You need to give each one a name and then you control the order by
placing a number in front. The problem here is that XP changed the rules of
listing (or sorting) by numbers. The old way we used
001_
002_
etc.
With XP you can use
1_
2_
etc.
If software opens 1_, 2, etc the old way, the listing will be
1_
10_
100_
2_
20_
200_
Very annoying. But XP will list:
1_
2_
3_
etc.
Using XP and the old way, you still get the same order on XP and other
software:
001_
002_
003_
etc.
But note that here the numbers are in front of the file name and not in
parenthesis at the end of the file name. With number in front of the file
name you can control the order of every file and have individual name for
each file. While it is tedious, it can be done. When using the (1) at the
end of a file name, you can use only one file name for a group of files, but
it is very fast to do.
they rearranged back to a/n order.
on all numbers, so it arranged them 1, 10, 11 - - -,100, 101 - ----, 20, 21
and so forth.
Look at my description again. It is different than what you want. I rename
"groups" of pictures, not individual pictures. So adding (1) at the end of a
file name and renaming all the files in the "group" the same name I end up
with
Christmas (1).jpg
Christmas (2).jpg
etc.
I can then control groups, by placing a number in front:
1_Christmas (1).jpg , (2), (3) etc
2_Easter (1).jpg ,(2), (3) etc.
You want your pictures to have individual names. If so, you cannot batch
rename. You need to give each one a name and then you control the order by
placing a number in front. The problem here is that XP changed the rules of
listing (or sorting) by numbers. The old way we used
001_
002_
etc.
With XP you can use
1_
2_
etc.
If software opens 1_, 2, etc the old way, the listing will be
1_
10_
100_
2_
20_
200_
Very annoying. But XP will list:
1_
2_
3_
etc.
Using XP and the old way, you still get the same order on XP and other
software:
001_
002_
003_
etc.
But note that here the numbers are in front of the file name and not in
parenthesis at the end of the file name. With number in front of the file
name you can control the order of every file and have individual name for
each file. While it is tedious, it can be done. When using the (1) at the
end of a file name, you can use only one file name for a group of files, but
it is very fast to do.
was afraid to try it, because the last time I tried copying them to anythingUSBurrows said:Are you sure that will work to copy the picture files to another folder? I
they rearranged back to a/n order.
description. When I prefixed them with a number I forgot to use three digitsI had 100 plus files I wanted individual names rather than one name
on all numbers, so it arranged them 1, 10, 11 - - -,100, 101 - ----, 20, 21
and so forth.
arranges them and not the way MS wants them arranged.Surely somewhere there is a program that leaves the files as the user