Cool`n' Quiet function, Please help!, It is not working when running on battery!

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M. Saddy

Hi,

I am having a problem with the Cool`n'Quiet function on this CPU! It is not
working when the laptop is running on battery but it works fine when running
on AC! On battery, the processor speed is always stuck on 1000 MHz according
to PowerNow! Dashboard Demo no matter what power scheme I am using, home,
portable, always on! On Ac it does function, when I am using the always on
scheme, the speed is always 2000 MHz and on portable the speed cycles
between 1000 and 2000 MHZ as it should! Is this by design, is the speed
supposed to stay on 1000MHz on battery? I hope not and I hope that you can
help me fix it! There is no way for me to play my game on battery, it is not
fast enough!

I called HP support twice about it and they are clueless, they have no idea
what the [content edited] I am talking about. They finally said that it is
working as it should but I don't think so! I bought a 2 GHz laptop and I'd
like to use the 2 GHz even on battery!

I downloaded the new driver, ruamdcpu.exe, it uninstalls my current driver
which is 1.2.2.0 then after reboot it uses windows driver and I had to run
the .exe again to install the new driver properly but the problem is it
still shows 1.2.2.0 under hardware profile! I guess there isn't a 1.2.2.2
but on AMD web site it states there is a new 1.2.2.2 driver!

Please advise and TIA.




HP Pavilion zv6000
AMD AthlonT 64 Processor 3200+
version x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2
current speed 990 MHz
cache size 512 KB
 
M. Saddy said:
Hi,

I am having a problem with the Cool`n'Quiet function on this CPU! It is
not working when the laptop is running on battery but it works fine when
running on AC! On battery, the processor speed is always stuck on 1000 MHz
according to PowerNow! Dashboard Demo no matter what power scheme I am
using, home, portable, always on! On Ac it does function, when I am using
the always on scheme, the speed is always 2000 MHz and on portable the
speed cycles between 1000 and 2000 MHZ as it should! Is this by design, is
the speed supposed to stay on 1000MHz on battery? I hope not and I hope
that you can help me fix it! There is no way for me to play my game on
battery, it is not fast enough!

I called HP support twice about it and they are clueless, they have no
idea what the [content edited] I am talking about. They finally said that
it is working as it should but I don't think so! I bought a 2 GHz laptop
and I'd like to use the 2 GHz even on battery!

I downloaded the new driver, ruamdcpu.exe, it uninstalls my current driver
which is 1.2.2.0 then after reboot it uses windows driver and I had to run
the .exe again to install the new driver properly but the problem is it
still shows 1.2.2.0 under hardware profile! I guess there isn't a 1.2.2.2
but on AMD web site it states there is a new 1.2.2.2 driver!

Please advise and TIA.




HP Pavilion zv6000
AMD AthlonT 64 Processor 3200+
version x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2
current speed 990 MHz
cache size 512 KB
Click to expand...

In addition to the Cool n' Quiet driver, you must have the latest
motherboard chipset driver, and your power scheme *must* be set to "Minimal
Power Management". Make sure that Cool n' Quiet is enabled in your BIOS.

Bobby
 
M. Saddy said:
Hi,

I am having a problem with the Cool`n'Quiet function on this CPU! It is
not working when the laptop is running on battery but it works fine when
running on AC! On battery, the processor speed is always stuck on 1000 MHz
according to PowerNow! Dashboard Demo no matter what power scheme I am
using, home, portable, always on! On Ac it does function, when I am using
the always on scheme, the speed is always 2000 MHz and on portable the
speed cycles between 1000 and 2000 MHZ as it should! Is this by design, is
the speed supposed to stay on 1000MHz on battery? I hope not and I hope
that you can help me fix it! There is no way for me to play my game on
battery, it is not fast enough!

I called HP support twice about it and they are clueless, they have no
idea what the [content edited] I am talking about. They finally said that
it is working as it should but I don't think so! I bought a 2 GHz laptop
and I'd like to use the 2 GHz even on battery!

I downloaded the new driver, ruamdcpu.exe, it uninstalls my current driver
which is 1.2.2.0 then after reboot it uses windows driver and I had to run
the .exe again to install the new driver properly but the problem is it
still shows 1.2.2.0 under hardware profile! I guess there isn't a 1.2.2.2
but on AMD web site it states there is a new 1.2.2.2 driver!

Please advise and TIA.
Click to expand...

Most laptop manufacturers lock the processor at it's lowest speed when on
battery to conserve battery life. You used to be able to install the Win2k
PowerNow! (PowerNow! is the name used for cool 'n' quiet on mobile
processors) drivers in compatibility mode and make the CPU throttle when on
battery. That trick stopped working when done post-SP2 install. There is a
simple, free utility out ther eyou can se to fix the "problem" though.
Download RMClock and install it. It actually throttles much better than the
default throttling in XP anyway. It has many more steps, including half
multipliers if you enable it, and the threshold of throttle can be changed.
 
NoNoBadDog! said:
M. Saddy said:
Hi,

I am having a problem with the Cool`n'Quiet function on this CPU! It is
not working when the laptop is running on battery but it works fine when
running on AC! On battery, the processor speed is always stuck on 1000
MHz according to PowerNow! Dashboard Demo no matter what power scheme I
am using, home, portable, always on! On Ac it does function, when I am
using the always on scheme, the speed is always 2000 MHz and on portable
the speed cycles between 1000 and 2000 MHZ as it should! Is this by
design, is the speed supposed to stay on 1000MHz on battery? I hope not
and I hope that you can help me fix it! There is no way for me to play my
game on battery, it is not fast enough!

I called HP support twice about it and they are clueless, they have no
idea what the [content edited] I am talking about. They finally said that
it is working as it should but I don't think so! I bought a 2 GHz laptop
and I'd like to use the 2 GHz even on battery!

I downloaded the new driver, ruamdcpu.exe, it uninstalls my current
driver which is 1.2.2.0 then after reboot it uses windows driver and I
had to run the .exe again to install the new driver properly but the
problem is it still shows 1.2.2.0 under hardware profile! I guess there
isn't a 1.2.2.2 but on AMD web site it states there is a new 1.2.2.2
driver!

Please advise and TIA.




HP Pavilion zv6000
AMD AthlonT 64 Processor 3200+
version x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2
current speed 990 MHz
cache size 512 KB
Click to expand...

In addition to the Cool n' Quiet driver, you must have the latest
motherboard chipset driver, and your power scheme *must* be set to
"Minimal Power Management". Make sure that Cool n' Quiet is enabled in
your BIOS.

Bobby
Click to expand...

Thanks Bobby, I am assuming that I do, it is a brand new laptop and HP said
that everything looks good! I did try all the power schemes, the switching
works fine when running on AC but it gets stuck at half speed once switched
to battery no matter what!
 
Yadayada said:
M. Saddy said:
Hi,

I am having a problem with the Cool`n'Quiet function on this CPU! It is
not working when the laptop is running on battery but it works fine when
running on AC! On battery, the processor speed is always stuck on 1000
MHz according to PowerNow! Dashboard Demo no matter what power scheme I
am using, home, portable, always on! On Ac it does function, when I am
using the always on scheme, the speed is always 2000 MHz and on portable
the speed cycles between 1000 and 2000 MHZ as it should! Is this by
design, is the speed supposed to stay on 1000MHz on battery? I hope not
and I hope that you can help me fix it! There is no way for me to play my
game on battery, it is not fast enough!

I called HP support twice about it and they are clueless, they have no
idea what the [content edited] I am talking about. They finally said that
it is working as it should but I don't think so! I bought a 2 GHz laptop
and I'd like to use the 2 GHz even on battery!

I downloaded the new driver, ruamdcpu.exe, it uninstalls my current
driver which is 1.2.2.0 then after reboot it uses windows driver and I
had to run the .exe again to install the new driver properly but the
problem is it still shows 1.2.2.0 under hardware profile! I guess there
isn't a 1.2.2.2 but on AMD web site it states there is a new 1.2.2.2
driver!

Please advise and TIA.
Click to expand...

Most laptop manufacturers lock the processor at it's lowest speed when on
battery to conserve battery life. You used to be able to install the Win2k
PowerNow! (PowerNow! is the name used for cool 'n' quiet on mobile
processors) drivers in compatibility mode and make the CPU throttle when
on battery. That trick stopped working when done post-SP2 install. There
is a simple, free utility out ther eyou can se to fix the "problem"
though. Download RMClock and install it. It actually throttles much better
than the default throttling in XP anyway. It has many more steps,
including half multipliers if you enable it, and the threshold of throttle
can be changed.
Click to expand...

Thanks for your help!



Funny you mentioned that, I got this utility today off the AMD web site!
Someone posted the link for it in the support forums. Surprisingly, it still
works; you just have to change the compatibility of the .exe file. I just
installed it and it added the PowerNow tab to WinXP power management. That
actually did the trick, once I enabled "dynamic switching" for battery it
stated throttling up and down accordingly. I chickened out though and
uninstalled it because I was afraid that it would damage my hardware! I was
not sure if PowerNow technology is compatible with the new cool 'n' quiet?
But if you say it is the same thing then I might just reinstall it and stick
with it, seems to do what I want done!



I have a question about the RMClock thing, is this safe to use? I am not
really comfortable messing with the CPU like you guys! Am I going to damage
something if I use the wrong multiplier or voltage and something else?
Again, thanks.
 
M. Saddy said:
NoNoBadDog! said:
M. Saddy said:
Hi,

I am having a problem with the Cool`n'Quiet function on this CPU! It is
not working when the laptop is running on battery but it works fine when
running on AC! On battery, the processor speed is always stuck on 1000
MHz according to PowerNow! Dashboard Demo no matter what power scheme I
am using, home, portable, always on! On Ac it does function, when I am
using the always on scheme, the speed is always 2000 MHz and on portable
the speed cycles between 1000 and 2000 MHZ as it should! Is this by
design, is the speed supposed to stay on 1000MHz on battery? I hope not
and I hope that you can help me fix it! There is no way for me to play
my game on battery, it is not fast enough!

I called HP support twice about it and they are clueless, they have no
idea what the [content edited] I am talking about. They finally said
that it is working as it should but I don't think so! I bought a 2 GHz
laptop and I'd like to use the 2 GHz even on battery!

I downloaded the new driver, ruamdcpu.exe, it uninstalls my current
driver which is 1.2.2.0 then after reboot it uses windows driver and I
had to run the .exe again to install the new driver properly but the
problem is it still shows 1.2.2.0 under hardware profile! I guess there
isn't a 1.2.2.2 but on AMD web site it states there is a new 1.2.2.2
driver!

Please advise and TIA.




HP Pavilion zv6000
AMD AthlonT 64 Processor 3200+
version x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2
current speed 990 MHz
cache size 512 KB
Click to expand...

In addition to the Cool n' Quiet driver, you must have the latest
motherboard chipset driver, and your power scheme *must* be set to
"Minimal Power Management". Make sure that Cool n' Quiet is enabled in
your BIOS.

Bobby
Click to expand...

Thanks Bobby, I am assuming that I do, it is a brand new laptop and HP
said that everything looks good! I did try all the power schemes, the
switching works fine when running on AC but it gets stuck at half speed
once switched to battery no matter what!
Click to expand...
You need to set power management options to minimal power settings.

Fred
 
I have a question about the RMClock thing, is this safe to use? I am not
really comfortable messing with the CPU like you guys! Am I going to damage
something if I use the wrong multiplier or voltage and something else?
Again, thanks.
Click to expand...

There's always a risk in overclocking, but if you do it in small steps
and run a memory and stability test you should fine, as long as the
hardware is not overheating. ;p

google it,
Memtest+ (stand alone memory tester)
Prime 95 ( select stability test only on 1st start)


Good Luck,
Ed
 
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