Connecting between windows xp and Windos 98 SE

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I have a Dell Windows XP purchased in August. I am trying
to network it to a nearby windows98SE. Dell has helped me
check the status of my card and everyhing on the XP
appears to be working.

However, on the Windows98SE the network of the xp shows up
fine.

On the XP, the 98SE will NOT show up.

my card is a INTEGRATED, INTEL PRO 100M

My hub says on it that it is a 5-port 10/100ps . It has
a power light and two other lights, presumable the two
computers. We have seen the lights flicker so
know movment is happening.

Any suggestions?

Karen
 
The first question I always ask is if you can ping each other by ip. If yes,
can you ping it by name? or you can go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net
do-it-yourself tools to diagnose settings.

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Hi Karen,

I am having the same problem and I have been told to add
Netbeui on every machine, Add a user on the XP machine of
the other computer, allow incoming connections on the XP,
and change the workgroup name (which I can't because it
has to be the security address for my RG). I have tried
all of these and nothing has worked. I can Ping from the
XP to my other computers(95,98,2000), but I can't ping
from them to the XP. I hope maybe something in this leads
to an idea that might help. If you figure this out please
E-Mail me and I will do the same.

Thanks,

Phil
 
I have already done this successfully but I can't recall how I did it.
I connected a P4 Intel rubbing XP to a PII Asus running Win 98SE. I
had everything working fine...file sharing and printer sharing, but it
takes a lot of tinkering.

You didn't say if you are using TCP/IP or NETBUI. I used TCP/IP. You
have to assign each network interface an IP address in the respective
Network Configurations under TCP/IP. And each machine needs a unique
identifier as well as being assigned to the same workgroup. For
example, I called the P4 'I
 
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I have already done this successfully but I can't recall how I did it.
I connected a P4 Intel running XP to a PII Asus running Win 98SE. I
had everything working fine...file sharing and printer sharing, but it
takes a lot of tinkering. I used a peer to peer setup, requiring a
crossover cable. With a router, it will be different and you don't use
a crossover cable as I understand. If there are only two machines, the
peer to peer works fine, but I can see problems if you need to connect
a DSL modem with peer to peer. When I ran that system, I was using a
dial-up ISP and only had one machine connected to the net.

Speaking of that, one of the network setup wizards will configure both
machines using a floppy disk made on the XP machine. Again, I don't
recall the details, but I recall making the floppy on one machine and
using it on the other to set it up. That may have involved ISP
sharing. With this method, as I recall, I had to reboot both machines
to get it working.

You didn't say if you are using TCP/IP or NETBUI. I used TCP/IP. You
have to assign each network interface an IP address in the respective
Network Configurations under TCP/IP. And each machine needs a unique
identifier as well as being assigned to the same workgroup. For
example, I called the P4 'INTELP4'...pretty original, eh? :-) The
other was 'ASUSP2'. That way I knew immediately which machine was
which, because in My Network Places, the machines show up with their
drives and things can get pretty confusing til you rename them.

At first, I could see only the one machine, but through rebooting and
tinkering, I eventually got them both to show. Of course, once you see
the other machine from each computer, or can ping it using the
assigned IP addresses, you have to setup file sharing. That involves
going into each machines file manager, right clicking each drive icon
and invoking sharing. A hand appears under each drive icon when
sharing is implemented.

A lot of the tinkering involves the set up in My Network Places/Local
Area Connections/Properties. In there, you will see the window with
Client for Microsoft Networks and IP Protocol (TCP/IP). Client for MS
Networks is not configurable in XP but it is in 98SE. You have to be
sure the workgroup and machine identifier are setup. I think that is
handles in XP by the wizard. Also, in 98SE, be sure File and Print
Sharing is ADDED to the network configuration and that Netbui over
TCP/IP is enabled, if you are using TCP/IP.

The IP protocol in both XP and 98SE can be assigned IP addresses, etc.
under IP Protocol/properties, if you are using TCP/IP. Also, I think
there is another protocol needs to be assigned in 98SE. Sorry, wish my
memory was better.

There are plenty of detailed articles on the net about this. Some of
them lead you through the process step by step. It's been a while
though and I don't recall where I found the articles. I only used
networking to transfer files from the older Asus to the new P4 when I
was setting up the P4. I don't use it anymore.

A search through Google using the keywords like +XP +Win98 +networking
will get you going in the right direction. I found the following one
easily:

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/review/whistler-network1.asp
 
Just wanted to correct some mistakes I made. I keep mixing up Netbeui
with Netbios. Netbeui, of course, is the older system, which is still
available for XP if you really want it. Netbios over TCP/IP is the
current standard. So, you have to be sure Netbios over TCP/IP is
enabled if you are using TCP/IP. I found TCP/IP easy to configure.
 
The workgroup name should be the same on all machines, but you need a
unique identifier name for each machine as well. These are different
entries in the wizard. You're not adding a user on the other machine,
you are adding a name to identify the machine. In 98SE, I think this
is done in Client for Microsoft Networks.

As far as allowing incoming connections on XP, that sounds like a
firewall issue. I suggest you turn off the XP firewall while
configuring, and not be connected to the net. One of the wizards will
handle all this for you, but keep in mind that wizards can be dummies
too. :-) I had the wizard tell me I couldn't use a workgroup name
I'd been using all along.

Sometimes you have to reset the whole system. Remove the network card
drivers, remove the network card, and reboot. If the card is plug and
play compatible, apparently XP will automatically reset the network
when you re-install the NIC. On 98SE, you will have to manually
reconfigure it, but that's no big deal once you've done it a few
times.

Also, in 'netsh' (run it from a command window in XP), there is a way
to reset the TCP/IP protocol.
 
-----Original Message-----
I have a Dell Windows XP purchased in August. I am trying
to network it to a nearby windows98SE. Dell has helped me
check the status of my card and everyhing on the XP
appears to be working.

However, on the Windows98SE the network of the xp shows up
fine.

On the XP, the 98SE will NOT show up.

my card is a INTEGRATED, INTEL PRO 100M

My hub says on it that it is a 5-port 10/100ps . It has
a power light and two other lights, presumable the two
computers. We have seen the lights flicker so
know movment is happening.

Any suggestions?

Karen
.
not uncommon, try this right click on the lan connection
of the xp machine, go to properties,click the advanecd tab,
if firewall protection is checked uncheck it
 
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