Conduit got me, indirectly!

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Conduit got me, indirectly!

Thank you Paul and Vanguard for your replies to a post of mine about a
month ago. I'm still working on answers for your posts. (FTR, it was
the about: blank thread but that's not important now.) Both of you
pointed out Conduit, which I hadn't noticed before, which I didn't know
was a bad thing, and which hadn't caused any problems yet,

Readers who get bored may readily skip ahead to **** to see my actual
question.


But later I noticed that it was causing problems. It, or my
mother-in-law, had changed IE's home page to the search.conduit page,
and it had changed the search engine to Bing, I think. Not sure about
the latter, because I never thought of the search engine as being
related to the browswer. I only thought of it as a webpage, which I
often made the homepage. But the first thing was enough.

I went to Internet Options / Advanced, and wrote down all the boxes
checked in the top half of the box. Then I reset and compared. Some
had changed, which I took to mean they had been changed by Conduit,
because I never directly changed anthing in the Advanced box.

I did other things to IE also, starting with Manage Add-ons.

Then I restarted the computer and went straight to the same Internet
Options / Advanced box and reset IE at the botttom half of the box.
Maybe I should have checked if things were working badly first but I
didn't. Since then everything seems to be working okay, including FF
and SeaMonkey, which were not** before (but I hadn't worked on them
yet.)

****
But I've realized that IIUC I no longer have any security updates for
IE 8.0.6001.18702. I thought I had saved all the security updates,
but under C:\Windows is instead a bunch of $uninstalls, about 100 of
them, sort of the opposite of what I'm looking for.


Where on my computer might I find all the secuirty updates. Can I just
run them in chronlogical order starting with the first one needed for
IE8, or IE8.0.6001.18702? And will that put me back the way I was?


If not, don't trouble yourselves yet to explain to me what to do. I
think there are several threads in this NG that I should read before I
ask questions about that. I read a lot of them once, but since I had
no problem, I wasn't paying enough attention to actually know what to
do! ;-)



**FF and SeaMonkey about a day or two earlier had gotten so that I could
not type into a screen, even when there was a blank box meant for typing
in. I could select text, but I couldn't copy the text to the clipboard.
But I could still click on a link elswhere and a Sea Monkey tab would
open fairly quicly. Then it got really slow. And lastly, the hourglass
never went away. I guess the last is why I thought it easier to work
on IE. So far I have done nothing to FF or SM and they seem to work as
well as they ever do.
 
micky said:
Conduit got me, indirectly!

Thank you Paul and Vanguard for your replies to a post of mine about a
month ago. I'm still working on answers for your posts. (FTR, it was
the about: blank thread but that's not important now.) Both of you
pointed out Conduit, which I hadn't noticed before, which I didn't know
was a bad thing, and which hadn't caused any problems yet,

Readers who get bored may readily skip ahead to **** to see my actual
question.


But later I noticed that it was causing problems. It, or my
mother-in-law, had changed IE's home page to the search.conduit page,
and it had changed the search engine to Bing, I think. Not sure about
the latter, because I never thought of the search engine as being
related to the browswer. I only thought of it as a webpage, which I
often made the homepage. But the first thing was enough.

I went to Internet Options / Advanced, and wrote down all the boxes
checked in the top half of the box. Then I reset and compared. Some
had changed, which I took to mean they had been changed by Conduit,
because I never directly changed anthing in the Advanced box.

I did other things to IE also, starting with Manage Add-ons.

Then I restarted the computer and went straight to the same Internet
Options / Advanced box and reset IE at the botttom half of the box.
Maybe I should have checked if things were working badly first but I
didn't. Since then everything seems to be working okay, including FF
and SeaMonkey, which were not** before (but I hadn't worked on them
yet.)

****
But I've realized that IIUC I no longer have any security updates for
IE 8.0.6001.18702. I thought I had saved all the security updates,
but under C:\Windows is instead a bunch of $uninstalls, about 100 of
them, sort of the opposite of what I'm looking for.


Where on my computer might I find all the secuirty updates. Can I just
run them in chronlogical order starting with the first one needed for
IE8, or IE8.0.6001.18702? And will that put me back the way I was?


If not, don't trouble yourselves yet to explain to me what to do. I
think there are several threads in this NG that I should read before I
ask questions about that. I read a lot of them once, but since I had
no problem, I wasn't paying enough attention to actually know what to
do! ;-)



**FF and SeaMonkey about a day or two earlier had gotten so that I could
not type into a screen, even when there was a blank box meant for typing
in. I could select text, but I couldn't copy the text to the clipboard.
But I could still click on a link elswhere and a Sea Monkey tab would
open fairly quicly. Then it got really slow. And lastly, the hourglass
never went away. I guess the last is why I thought it easier to work
on IE. So far I have done nothing to FF or SM and they seem to work as
well as they ever do.
Click to expand...

What starts as a simple job, can take a while.

You can see with the guided help, there could be other
things as well as Conduit. Using Adwcleaner and Junkware-Removal-Tool
is only part of the job.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/516387/conduit-search-spigot-removal/

Paul
 
micky said:
Conduit got me, indirectly!

I did other things to IE also, starting with Manage Add-ons.
But I've realized that IIUC I no longer have any security updates for
IE 8.0.6001.18702. I thought I had saved all the security updates,
but under C:\Windows is instead a bunch of $uninstalls, about 100 of
them, sort of the opposite of what I'm looking for.

Where on my computer might I find all the secuirty updates. Can I just
run them in chronlogical order starting with the first one needed for
IE8, or IE8.0.6001.18702? And will that put me back the way I was?
Click to expand...

See what you can get off the Windows Update site. I don't have WinXP to
check. I've heard conflicting reports about the WU site having or not
having the updates anymore. Using the WU tool or site does not save any
updates but applies them. Unless you've used WSUSoffline to actually
save the updates to wherever you want to separately store them (which
should obviously not be to the same partition as where is the OS) then
you don't have them to reapply.

If it takes me more than 3 evenings to cleanup not just the malware but
all its registry and file remnants, I've already spent more time than it
would take to do a fresh install of the OS and apps and restore my data
from backups. For Windows XP, I'd check if Microsoft still has the
updates (both patches and security updates) at their WU site or if they
only have some of the security updates.

Have any image backups been saved for this computer? If you don't do
backups then you deem your setup and data as non-critical and
reproducible (whether true or not).
 
VanguardLH said:
See what you can get off the Windows Update site. I don't have WinXP to
check. I've heard conflicting reports about the WU site having or not
having the updates anymore. Using the WU tool or site does not save any
updates but applies them. Unless you've used WSUSoffline to actually
save the updates to wherever you want to separately store them (which
should obviously not be to the same partition as where is the OS) then
you don't have them to reapply.

If it takes me more than 3 evenings to cleanup not just the malware but
all its registry and file remnants, I've already spent more time than it
would take to do a fresh install of the OS and apps and restore my data
from backups. For Windows XP, I'd check if Microsoft still has the
updates (both patches and security updates) at their WU site or if they
only have some of the security updates.

Have any image backups been saved for this computer? If you don't do
backups then you deem your setup and data as non-critical and
reproducible (whether true or not).
Click to expand...

The Baseline Security Analyser can list the security updates,
if you were starting with a fresh install. It probably runs off
the same manifest as Windows Update though.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc184924.aspx

Paul
 
Paul said:
The Baseline Security Analyser can list the security updates,
if you were starting with a fresh install. It probably runs off
the same manifest as Windows Update though.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc184924.aspx
Click to expand...

Paul
No longer any security updates with IE 6 or 7
You have to have IE 8 to run The Windows Update site

With a fresh install you have to update IE to a 8 first
So you can able to update the Installer for Auto update

But like Win 98
You can not use IE 8
So the day is coming

That you have to Have
IE 9 for run The Windows Update site
And Auto update
That will be the end of XP as we know it
 
micky said:
Conduit got me, indirectly!
Thank you Paul and Vanguard for your replies to a post of mine about a
month ago. I'm still working on answers for your posts. (FTR, it was
the about: blank thread but that's not important now.) Both of you
pointed out Conduit, which I hadn't noticed before, which I didn't know
was a bad thing, and which hadn't caused any problems yet,
Readers who get bored may readily skip ahead to **** to see my actual
question.
Click to expand...

Vanguard do not have a Windows OS
But Paul Knows his Windows
But later I noticed that it was causing problems. It, or my
mother-in-law, had changed IE's home page to the search.conduit page,
and it had changed the search engine to Bing, I think. Not sure about
the latter, because I never thought of the search engine as being
related to the browswer. I only thought of it as a webpage, which I
often made the homepage. But the first thing was enough.
Click to expand...

Is Microsoft Your Mother-in-law

For Microsoft changed IE's home page
and search conduit
With an Bing Desktop update Just for you
I went to Internet Options / Advanced, and wrote down all the boxes
checked in the top half of the box. Then I reset and compared. Some
had changed, which I took to mean they had been changed by Conduit,
because I never directly changed anthing in the Advanced box.
I did other things to IE also, starting with Manage Add-ons.
Then I restarted the computer and went straight to the same Internet
Options / Advanced box and reset IE at the botttom half of the box.
Maybe I should have checked if things were working badly first but I
didn't. Since then everything seems to be working okay, including FF
and SeaMonkey, which were not** before (but I hadn't worked on them
yet.)
****
But I've realized that IIUC I no longer have any security updates for
IE 8.0.6001.18702. I thought I had saved all the security updates,
but under C:\Windows is instead a bunch of $uninstalls, about 100 of
them, sort of the opposite of what I'm looking for.
Where on my computer might I find all the secuirty updates. Can I just
run them in chronlogical order starting with the first one needed for
IE8, or IE8.0.6001.18702? And will that put me back the way I was?
If not, don't trouble yourselves yet to explain to me what to do. I
think there are several threads in this NG that I should read before I
ask questions about that. I read a lot of them once, but since I had
no problem, I wasn't paying enough attention to actually know what to
do! ;-)
**FF and SeaMonkey about a day or two earlier had gotten so that I could
not type into a screen, even when there was a blank box meant for typing
in. I could select text, but I couldn't copy the text to the clipboard.
But I could still click on a link elswhere and a Sea Monkey tab would
open fairly quicly. Then it got really slow. And lastly, the hourglass
never went away. I guess the last is why I thought it easier to work
on IE. So far I have done nothing to FF or SM and they seem to work as
well as they ever do.
Click to expand...

And I see you Fix It good Job
 
"Hot-Text" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Paul
No longer any security updates with IE 6 or 7
You have to have IE 8 to run The Windows Update site

With a fresh install you have to update IE to a 8 first
So you can able to update the Installer for Auto update

But like Win 98
You can not use IE 8
So the day is coming

That you have to Have
IE 9 for run The Windows Update site
And Auto update
That will be the end of XP as we know it
Click to expand...
You need a good nights rest!!
 
Buffalo said:
"Hot-Text" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
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Now I up

it not the Newsreader Pasay
It's the News Server Aioe Text only
They do not like Hot-Text/Html being ported
 
Not true. I just installed my July XP updates using IE 6.

DK
Click to expand...

Please ignore Paul because he is on crack cocaine these days. He is
supposed to go to some assylum soon.

You say you received July updates in XP, could you tell us what these
updates are? You don't get any updates in XP since April 8th 2014. Are
these updates old ones that you were missing in your system?
 
Good said:
Please ignore Paul because he is on crack cocaine these days. He is
supposed to go to some assylum soon.

You say you received July updates in XP, could you tell us what these
updates are? You don't get any updates in XP since April 8th 2014. Are
these updates old ones that you were missing in your system?
Click to expand...

Somehow, you ass clowns have attributed "Hot Text" content, to me.

This is the content you've quoted. From Hot Text.

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=<[email protected]>

Paul
 
I am one of those guys that lie to MS that my system is POS 2009,
so there are still updates every month.
Somehow, you ass clowns have attributed "Hot Text" content, to me.
Click to expand...

Sorry, my mistake!

DK
 
From: "DK" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:37 PM
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject: Re: That will be the end of XP as we know it
I am one of those guys that lie to MS that my system is POS 2009,
so there are still updates every month.
Click to expand...

I have give answer
To a New install of XP

You can not use this Web-page in IE 6 or 7
< http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us >
You have to have a IE 8 and Newer

Now why you can get Auto update with IE-6

Because you have been Auto updated to
New Auto updated for SP 3

Just you have set it to View the updates
Before install is how you did it

By say no to IE 7 updates for Sp 2
You say No to IE 8 for Sp 3 TOO!
And have to have a Sp2 or Sp3
to have IE8

Now you can not use update Microsoft com
Web-page because you don't have IE8

Sorry, my mistake!
Click to expand...

Look like you good at that
But Paul Repost the answer
 
"DK"

I can Show you Pictures
of a new install made in 2014

Start with XP Pro Sp-2 CD

Do you thank all install
Start with a Sp 3

I test the install
2 time a year

I be doing a test in 3 about weeks
and I do take Pictures of the install
 
In message <[email protected]>, Hot-Text
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Now I up

it not the Newsreader Pasay
It's the News Server Aioe Text only
They do not like Hot-Text/Html being ported
Click to expand...
So turn off the HTML! As you can see, your newsreader posts everything
twice (as well as lots of garbage) when you leave the HTML on, so you
might as well turn it off anyway.
--
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