Comparison between Windows and Linux

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GorkusPuss said:
http://www.kleenex.com/NA/Products/Kleenex-Tissues.aspx

Has a kind of assonance Linux ... Kleenex, that could make a new distro
for Linux, K-Leenex, for that 0.67%

- GorkusPuss

For as "good" as it is, Linux doesn't do very well.
Either the product speaks for itself, and its usability reflects it poor
showing.
Or dweebs like Alias are giving Linux bad PR.
They are trying too hard to push distros like ubuntu as better than Vista.

I tried ubuntu...it comes loaded with problems.
So many that the trial lasted maybe 3 weeks.
A better comparison for ubuntu would be another Linux distro....NOT
Vista,XP, or any flavour of Windows.
Windows 3.1 lasted longer on my PC than ubuntu did.
Years ago I tried Suse 10 ... it lasted a week less than ubuntu did.
 
I agree with what you say Hobbes, I get the impression Alias is here to buttress Microsoft
by pushing the Linux line the way he does, and others here too. If Vista is so bad, then
here is your chance to overtake it, or at the very least make substantial in roads into your
user base. Linux retracted, and for the reasons you removed it, for the reasons I removed
SuSE, dumped RedHat. Linux is not viable, difficult and not familiar in the market place,
that does not constitute an alternative to a product\service.

Let's give the Linux advocates the benefit of the doubt, OK Vista is crap what have you got?
You saw the pie chart, nothing.

People come here for Vista help, or (in my case) to observe and learn about Vista. For some
posts here (many can be considered), to be told to dump Vista and download a 700Mb Linux
Ubuntu installation is stupid, people don't flock to a product over confusion, they do it
over familiarity for that product, as bad as you can justify Vista to be, it has and enjoys
a familiarity in the Market that, Linux has been retracting from since the mid to late 1990s.

While the likes of people like Alias are here pushing the Ubuntu Linux brand, it will be
shunned by people, never get a more positive familiarity. I wonder if the Ubuntu producers
see how their product is being pushed in this Newsgroup, they would likely accuse Alias of
working for the Microsoft camp, and disassociate themselves from him, who needs friends like
that?

Such people who cannot help nor teach anyone here something regarding the OS they use by
suggesting to dump their product, and go Ubuntu deserve all the slander coming to them. No
matter what the product, people at least wish to feel good about their purchases. Not have
idiots rubbing dirt in their faces.

- GorkusPuss
 
GorkusPuss said:
I agree with what you say Hobbes, I get the impression Alias is here to
buttress Microsoft by pushing the Linux line the way he does, and others
here too. If Vista is so bad, then here is your chance to overtake it, or
at the very least make substantial in roads into your user base. Linux
retracted, and for the reasons you removed it, for the reasons I removed
SuSE, dumped RedHat. Linux is not viable, difficult and not familiar in
the market place, that does not constitute an alternative to a
product\service.

Let's give the Linux advocates the benefit of the doubt, OK Vista is crap
what have you got? You saw the pie chart, nothing.

People come here for Vista help, or (in my case) to observe and learn
about Vista. For some posts here (many can be considered), to be told to
dump Vista and download a 700Mb Linux Ubuntu installation is stupid,
people don't flock to a product over confusion, they do it over
familiarity for that product, as bad as you can justify Vista to be, it
has and enjoys a familiarity in the Market that, Linux has been retracting
from since the mid to late 1990s.

While the likes of people like Alias are here pushing the Ubuntu Linux
brand, it will be shunned by people, never get a more positive
familiarity. I wonder if the Ubuntu producers see how their product is
being pushed in this Newsgroup, they would likely accuse Alias of working
for the Microsoft camp, and disassociate themselves from him, who needs
friends like that?

Such people who cannot help nor teach anyone here something regarding the
OS they use by suggesting to dump their product, and go Ubuntu deserve all
the slander coming to them. No matter what the product, people at least
wish to feel good about their purchases. Not have idiots rubbing dirt in
their faces.

- GorkusPuss

The ubuntu command sudo should be pseudo ... as in a pseudo OS.
The impression I got from ubuntu is 300 different people wrote the code, yet
none of them knew the others phone number.
I saw neither ease of use nor stability.
The difference between installing graphics drivers for Vista and Ubuntu is
huge.
Vista goes with ease...ubuntu with xserver nightmares.
Thou I never figured out what I needed graphics drivers for ubuntu
anyway...the only thing close to modern graphics was the spinning cube
desktop.
 
Alias said:
I do know how to tell you that you're wrong.

Yes Bobby is wrong.
According to that chart.
For every 100 people almost 3/4 of one person use Linux.
:)
 
Spaceman said:
Yes Bobby is wrong.
According to that chart.
For every 100 people almost 3/4 of one person use Linux.
:)

Which, of course, translates into millions of Linux users.

Alias
 
Hobbes said:
The ubuntu command sudo should be pseudo ... as in a pseudo OS.
The impression I got from ubuntu is 300 different people wrote the code,
yet none of them knew the others phone number.

Wrong. Closed OSes like Windows don't benefit from many programmers
checking it out. So MS throws it out to the public as a beta and the
public even pays to be the beta testers. This shall continue until SP2
at the earliest.
I saw neither ease of use nor stability.

Your posts reveal why.
The difference between installing graphics drivers for Vista and Ubuntu
is huge.

Sure is. With Vista, one must go to the web site and download and
install drivers. With Ubuntu, it is done automagically with no input
necessary from the user. Same is true for printers and scanners. Oops.
Vista goes with ease...ubuntu with xserver nightmares.

What "nightmares"? LOL! You've obviously never installed Ubuntu.
Thou I never figured out what I needed graphics drivers for ubuntu
anyway...the only thing close to modern graphics was the spinning cube
desktop.

More proof that you have never installed Ubuntu.

Alias
 
Alias said:
Wrong. Closed OSes like Windows don't benefit from many programmers
checking it out. So MS throws it out to the public as a beta and the
public even pays to be the beta testers. This shall continue until SP2 at
the earliest.


Your posts reveal why.


Sure is. With Vista, one must go to the web site and download and install
drivers. With Ubuntu, it is done automagically with no input necessary
from the user. Same is true for printers and scanners. Oops.


What "nightmares"? LOL! You've obviously never installed Ubuntu.


More proof that you have never installed Ubuntu.

Alias

Yes I did ... and received the Ubuntu update that crashed many xserver
users.
Just like in windows, I get my graphics drivers from the nvidia
website....oops.
I don't get my drivers from Synaptic...oops.
And Feisty is still installed on an old PIII PC my wife uses...oops.
She only keeps it for the Mahjong game...its easy to beat.

Don't let your hatred of Windows users get the best of you....Vista isn't
going to go away because you want it too.
Neither is Microsoft...oops.
 
The ubuntu command sudo should be pseudo ... as in a pseudo OS.
The impression I got from ubuntu is 300 different people wrote the
code, yet none of them knew the others phone number.
I saw neither ease of use nor stability.
The difference between installing graphics drivers for Vista and
Ubuntu is huge.

It may be different, but not difficult.

To install the nVidia driver, all I did was open the package manager and
select it from the list.
 
Hobbes said:
Yes I did ... and received the Ubuntu update that crashed many xserver
users.

I don't believe you.
Just like in windows, I get my graphics drivers from the nvidia
website....oops.

I don't believe you.
I don't get my drivers from Synaptic...oops.

Neither do I. It's done automagically with Hardy.
And Feisty is still installed on an old PIII PC my wife uses...oops.

She's way behind the times, then. With real OSes, two years is an eternity.
She only keeps it for the Mahjong game...its easy to beat.

Oh, so she's a clueless as you are, eh?
Don't let your hatred of Windows users get the best of you....

I don't hate Windows or their users. I use XP every day.
Vista
isn't going to go away because you want it too.

No, it's doing a great job of disappearing without my help.
Neither is Microsoft...oops.

No, it's doing a great job of disappearing without my help.

Next?

Alias
 
Alias said:
I don't believe you.


I don't believe you.


Neither do I. It's done automagically with Hardy.


She's way behind the times, then. With real OSes, two years is an
eternity.


Oh, so she's a clueless as you are, eh?


I don't hate Windows or their users. I use XP every day.


No, it's doing a great job of disappearing without my help.


No, it's doing a great job of disappearing without my help.

Next?

Alias

You don't believe me?
OK.
Hope I get over it.

So, any idea what you would need graphics cards for in ubuntu ?
 
Hobbes said:
You don't believe me?
OK.
Hope I get over it.

So, any idea what you would need graphics cards for in ubuntu ?

To run graphics, what else?

Dumb question.

Alais
 
DanS said:
It may be different, but not difficult.

To install the nVidia driver, all I did was open the package manager and
select it from the list.

I used the driver from nvidia's website.
With it , you get a control panel for SLI, and other settings.
The restricted drivers I initially used thru the package manager ... I still
got lock ups.

Ubuntu does not work for me.
I just don't like it.
Vista works for me.
I like it.

You wouldn't happen to know why you would even need graphics drivers in
ubuntu, would you?
 
Alias said:
To run graphics, what else?

Dumb question.

Alais

Like some intense 2D chess game or something?
Have you seen gnome chess in 3D....hehehe.
When was ubuntu written, 1972 ?
 
Alias, the fact is that no matter how many eye's you have working on the
project, no matter how many different methods, etc... there are always
going ot be bugs, and Linux, Unix, OS/x, MAC, Windows, Vista, AIX,
etc... they all had bugs, lots of them.

Having spent most of my life developing code and managing developers,
it's not an issue of Open Source or Closed Source, it's about
methodology and how limited your scope is when interacting with other
items that run on the computer.

How many more times to you have to revisit you life story? This
newsgroup has plenty of ego strokers, but damn man, you take the
prize.

Hint: There are MANY people here that equal or exceed your life
experiences with computers that don't have to babble about it every
time they post. Try not to be so full of yourself. Nobody gives a
shit. Really.
 
UI CRASHES WHEN INCORRECT WPA2 KEY IS ENTERED: Windows: 0 Ubuntu 1

did they cover that? ;)

While I love Linux, it's simply no compeition when out of the box it can't
sleep propertly (without some manual editing of conf files), not least if
you have Nvidia drivers installed.

Maybe in 5 years time.
 
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