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I am a teacher at a school that uses Novell Network. I have my students save their projects on the c: drive, but everytime they call up their projects, all of their captured video and edited clips are gone from the collections folder. Even if they make a new collections folder it disappears. Is it because their policy deletes the temp folder where the .dat file is stored? I have even changed it where it goes (not temp) in options and collections still disappear. Frustrating for the kids and me. Right now I am having them drag all clips into storyboard, saving it and then editing it in the timeline and storyboard which is a lot more confusing and harder to do. Any ideas? Help!
 
I've read this a dozen times, wondering about your setup, with not enough
info to give any suggestions.... the collections database isn't in and
shouldn't be in a temporary folder. Are the students different users on
common computers or do they each have their own? Are the source files on
their c drives or on a network drive and shared by all?

So it's just a problem with the collections databases and not the project
files. Where are they storing the project files?

I think I'm fishing a bit for some added info in order to provide some
reasonable comment.
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PapaJohn
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grbell said:
I am a teacher at a school that uses Novell Network. I have my students
save their projects on the c: drive, but everytime they call up their
projects, all of their captured video and edited clips are gone from the
collections folder. Even if they make a new collections folder it
disappears. Is it because their policy deletes the temp folder where the
..dat file is stored? I have even changed it where it goes (not temp) in
options and collections still disappear. Frustrating for the kids and me.
Right now I am having them drag all clips into storyboard, saving it and
then editing it in the timeline and storyboard which is a lot more confusing
and harder to do. Any ideas? Help!
 
Hi there,
Have you asked your Novell network Administrator for some advise?
The Drive C: that you mention, is that a common Drive C: ? or is it a local
drive to each machine. It makes a very big difference.
If you are saying that these files are actually disappearing from the
computers themselves or from their networked location then there is some
external application at work. Movie Maker does not have the ability to
physically delete files from any hard drive, except for the temporary
storage location.
Movie Makers own collection folders are not folders or directories on the
hard drive. They are simply a database description under which certain file
names will be collected/organized. They are not real folders/directories
and no files are physically stored in them.
The Help file says this about the temporary location you mentioned in your
question...
Specifies the temporary storage location for captured audio, as well as
saved movies. When you are capturing an audio narration, the temporary
buffer file is stored in this location, and then removed when the final
captured audio file is saved.
When saving a movie that you are going to send in an e-mail message or to a
video hosting provider on the Web, a copy of the movie file is stored in
this location until the movie is sent successfully. When sending a movie to
a tape in a DV camera, the temporary movie file that is created is stored
in this location until the movie is recorded to the tape.
Click Browse to find the location you want to specify as your temporary
storage location on your computer. You may want to change your temporary
storage location to specify a location that has more available disk space.
For example, if your hard disk has two partitions, you may want to choose
the drive that has more available disk space when capturing video or saving
a movie that you want to record to a tape in a DV camera.
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So, it seems from the above that once a temporary file usefulness to the
process at hand is complete Movie Maker will tidy up behind itself and
delete it.
The Help file also has this to say about collections...
The collections file is named Windows Movie Maker.col and is located on
your hard disk in \Documents and Settings\UserAccountName\Application
Data\Microsoft\Movie Maker. For example, if Windows is installed on drive
C:, and your account name is John, your collections file would be located
in C:\Documents and Settings\John\Application Data\Microsoft\Movie Maker.
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If your network is arranged so that Drive C: is a common network drive,
there may be issues over file locking when more than one computer tries to
write to this shared file. It would not in any case be a very good idea to
use a program that is not designed for use in a networked environment in
such a way that all of them have access to the same Collections file. Which
one would have control? and how would the other instances of the program
know that?
If Drive C: is not a network drive then each copy of the program will run
fine, except where you make all of them share a networked location for the
storage of temporary files. Which program would have control? Each program
would think it had stored data that any other copy of the program could
delete, believing it was deleting one of its own files.
I would think that the way forward is to have every copy of the program
running locally with no network operations at all. At the commencement of a
teaching session you could upload to each machine a copy of the collections
file that is relevant to that session. The files it refers to can be on the
network and made read only. The result of each students work would be
stored locally to each machine and if no longer required can be deleted by
you executing a Novell command to put each machine into a certain state
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Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
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