Cleaning up the registry

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Mikey;
Others may differ, but I suggest you leave it alone unless you know
exactly what you are doing.
There is little to be gained and much to lose.
 
If you don't have a problem that you know is in the registry, your best bet
is, leave it alone. Tampering with the registry can wreck your machine.

FWIW, JAX
 
Hi

It is risky to play with registries unless you know exactly what you are doing and must do it right
I use Norton System Works 2003 for registry check and clean. It works fine

Pete


----- Mikey wrote: ----

How do I clean up my registry? Do you suggest that I do
this
 
Mikey;
There seems to be two kinds of advice in these newsgroups. One warns people to stay away from
the Registry. The other, if you want to fix something, "Navigate to this key..."
"Stay away unless you know what you're doing." How you going to learn? A warning is in order.
Back it up first, before you do anything else, that way if you screw up something you have a Plan B.
ERUNT will do this and if the Registry is really messed up, it allows you a way to restore the
Registry. Providing that you follow the instructions. RTFM! Hint, make a backup disk.

NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/

ERUNT [Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make
a complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole
registry (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is
saved), nor can the exported file be used later to replace the current
registry with the old one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is
merged with the current registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of
old and new registry keys.]

NTREGOPT [The program works by recreating each registry hive "from scratch",
thus removing any slack space that may be left from previously modified or deleted keys.]
---
EasyCleaner is a small program which searches Windows' registry for entries that are pointing
nowhere.
http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm

[EasyCleaner creates .REG-file from all entries deleted on the same session, and by double-clicking
the *.REG-file you can add those previously deleted entries back to the registry.] i.e. EasyCleaner
makes backup (Undo files) that you can use to replace something that you deleted using EasyCleaner.
 
What you say has some merit. A better solution IMHO, although more costly,
is to use imaging software to create an image of the system partition. The
advantage here is that the system partition can be restored from a floppy
disk, so if the user's 'learning' renders the computer unstable or
unbootable, the user can be back in the saddle in minutes.

The next thing to get is a good book on the Windows XP registry, of which
there are several and not all of them written at the geek level. Armed with
knowledge and an exit strategy, a user can begin to plumb the depths of the
Windows registry.

The above is many times better IMHO than any third-party 'registry cleaning'
software. We see many posts from users who have this software and quite
obviously don't understand what the heck they're looking at. Registry
cleaning software that preys on the fears of unknowing users is a play for
suckers - and evidentally quite profitable.

Tom Swift

Wesley Vogel said:
Mikey;
There seems to be two kinds of advice in these newsgroups. One warns people to stay away from
the Registry. The other, if you want to fix something, "Navigate to this key..."
"Stay away unless you know what you're doing." How you going to learn? A warning is in order.
Back it up first, before you do anything else, that way if you screw up something you have a Plan B.
ERUNT will do this and if the Registry is really messed up, it allows you a way to restore the
Registry. Providing that you follow the instructions. RTFM! Hint, make a backup disk.

NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/

ERUNT [Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make
a complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole
registry (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is
saved), nor can the exported file be used later to replace the current
registry with the old one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is
merged with the current registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of
old and new registry keys.]

NTREGOPT [The program works by recreating each registry hive "from scratch",
thus removing any slack space that may be left from previously modified or deleted keys.]
---
EasyCleaner is a small program which searches Windows' registry for entries that are pointing
nowhere.
http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm

[EasyCleaner creates .REG-file from all entries deleted on the same
session, and by double-clicking
the *.REG-file you can add those previously deleted entries back to the registry.] i.e. EasyCleaner
makes backup (Undo files) that you can use to replace something that you deleted using EasyCleaner.
--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Mikey said:
How do I clean up my registry? Do you suggest that I do
this?
 
Tom;
I have an ERUNT backup/restore disk. I have used it twice. Not from an unbootable condition, but
it can be used that way. I keep it updated.

RTFM. Yes, reference books are a good thing.

RTFM. Yes, a lot of users do not understand what they are looking at. There are a lot of things
that I don't understand. But, a lot of what I do know is from making mistakes. These mistakes
have allowed me to learn even more. I have had to fix those mistakes. They call this experience.
The first time I started messing around in the Registry in Win 98, I was working without a net. I
didn't even know what backing up was. RTFM. I do not mean to imply that the only way I learn
anything is by screwing up. Although, things learned that way do tend to stick with a person. The
only way any one can learn anything is by doing it. Hopefully, armed with some book learning first.
I don't believe that I understand how FREE software is quite profitable.

"You have to burn to learn and learn to burn."

An awful lot of what we are discussing is just a matter of opinion.
Wes

In
Tom Swift said:
What you say has some merit. A better solution IMHO, although more costly,
is to use imaging software to create an image of the system partition. The
advantage here is that the system partition can be restored from a floppy
disk, so if the user's 'learning' renders the computer unstable or
unbootable, the user can be back in the saddle in minutes.

The next thing to get is a good book on the Windows XP registry, of which
there are several and not all of them written at the geek level. Armed with
knowledge and an exit strategy, a user can begin to plumb the depths of the
Windows registry.

The above is many times better IMHO than any third-party 'registry cleaning'
software. We see many posts from users who have this software and quite
obviously don't understand what the heck they're looking at. Registry
cleaning software that preys on the fears of unknowing users is a play for
suckers - and evidentally quite profitable.

Tom Swift

Wesley Vogel said:
Mikey;
There seems to be two kinds of advice in these newsgroups. One warns people to stay away
from the Registry. The other, if you want to fix something, "Navigate to this key..."
"Stay away unless you know what you're doing." How you going to learn? A warning is in
order. Back it up first, before you do anything else, that way if you screw up something you
have a Plan B. ERUNT will do this and if the Registry is really messed up, it allows you a way
to restore the Registry. Providing that you follow the instructions. RTFM! Hint, make a
backup disk.

NTREGOPT NT Registry Optimizer
ERUNT The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/

ERUNT [Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make
a complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole
registry (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is
saved), nor can the exported file be used later to replace the current
registry with the old one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is
merged with the current registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of
old and new registry keys.]

NTREGOPT [The program works by recreating each registry hive "from scratch",
thus removing any slack space that may be left from previously modified or deleted keys.]
---
EasyCleaner is a small program which searches Windows' registry for entries that are pointing
nowhere.
http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm

[EasyCleaner creates .REG-file from all entries deleted on the same
session, and by double-clicking
the *.REG-file you can add those previously deleted entries back to the registry.] i.e.
EasyCleaner makes backup (Undo files) that you can use to replace something that you deleted
using EasyCleaner. --
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

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Mikey said:
How do I clean up my registry? Do you suggest that I do
this?
 
Jupiter Jones said:
Others may differ, but I suggest you leave it alone unless you know
exactly what you are doing.
There is little to be gained and much to lose.

Right, but in my own experience you are never going to get any
transparent, measurable improvements in performance or stability
solely by "cleaning" the registry (as opposed to tweaking the
registry). Quite often the opposite is closer to the truth.

Ken
 
I don't know what the difference is between "cleaning" and "tweaking".

You (not you personally) can remove 100, 200 or more strings from your
registry and not experience one second's worth of improvement in your
system's performance. You can also remove one string and hose your system.
Which is another way of saying "There is little to be gained and much to
lose."

Tom Swift
 
Tom Swift said:
I don't know what the difference is between "cleaning" and "tweaking".
You (not you personally) can remove 100, 200 or more strings from your
registry and not experience one second's worth of improvement in your
system's performance. You can also remove one string and hose your system.
Which is another way of saying "There is little to be gained and much to
lose."

As I used these terms, "cleaning" is removing registry entries, while
"tweaking" can be adding, deleting, or modifying a registry entry.

Most of the time I agree. Tweaks are not transparent (noticable and
measurable), and one mistake can hose your system. One notable recent
exception for me was a registry tweak to increase -- measurably :) --
the speed of my Internet broadband connection.

Ken
 
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