Clean Install Upgrade version

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Hard drive failed,but I have heard that You cannot install Upgrade
Version Vista to a clean drive that dos'nt have XP or 2000 installed first.
Can anyone verify this information?This will go a long way in deciding
which OS I will be using.
 
you must have loaded win 2000 or XP on you PC first and start Update from
within the previous OS.

There is a alternate method existant that allows to first install vista
upgrade without entering a Product Key ( gives a 30 day eval ) and start the
setup WITH key from within that eval vista.dp to say two times installation.

This method is illegal said Microsoft as the license agreement says that you
must have a previous OS INSTALLED.

Because this is not supported and illegal I wont tell you how to exactly do
this.

SJ / germany
 
Dino said:
Hard drive failed,but I have heard that You cannot install Upgrade
Version Vista to a clean drive that dos'nt have XP or 2000 installed first.
Can anyone verify this information?This will go a long way in deciding
which OS I will be using.
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It is clearly not illegal to do it. You really should own a qualifying
product, but you can do a true clean install. Look here for more info.

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070208#story1
 
"This method is illegal said Microsoft"

Please provide me with the quote where Microsoft
stated that.

Governments make laws as to what is legal and illegal,
not Microsoft.

-Michael
 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/930985/en-us
Upgrade installation keys are blocked when you start from the Windows Vista
DVD

SYMPTOMS
You purchased an upgrade license and key for Windows Vista. When you start
from the DVD and then try to install Windows Vista by using this upgrade
key, you will be blocked from continuing.


CAUSE
This problem occurs because Windows Vista does not check upgrade compliance.
Therefore, you cannot use an upgrade key to perform a clean installation of
Windows Vista.


RESOLUTION
To resolve this problem, use one of the following methods.


Method 1
Start the installation from a compliant version of Windows, such as Windows
Vista, Microsoft Windows XP, or Microsoft Windows 2000. After you have
started the installation, you can select Custom at the installation choice
screen to perform a clean installation.


Method 2
Purchase a Full Product License. This license will let the installation
continue after you start from the Windows Vista DVD.

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Microsoft Software License Terms:
... {1. - 12. } ...

13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the
software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement
takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After
you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.



SJ / germany
 
Sascha,

I am well aware of what the EULA says.
We may be experiencing a language barrier here.

Yes, the alternative ways that have been mentioned
may be in violation of the EULA. However, as a matter of
something being "illegal", that is a matter of law- only governments
make laws, not Microsoft.

The fact of the matter, Microsoft knows about this and has
not issued any statement. Even though it has appeared on
numerous sites, and several respectable sites. More amazing,
there have been a few Microsoft employees posting here and
in the installation_setup group, and not one has said anything
about this. Silence can speak volumes.


-Michael
 
In said:
Microsoft Software License Terms:
... {1. - 12. } ...

13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed
for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this
agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you
upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software
you upgraded from.



SJ / germany
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So, what does one do when they need to re-install Vista?
 
There are numerous "silence" solutions available to many Microsoft products
and services.

I can break almost any Eula and license for my insight into some techniques
that affect these products.

I know how to use Vista over the grace period without ever activating it
I know how to install most Microsoft products without valid Keys.
I know how to use reverse engineering
I know how to alter upgrades into full products
I know how to break protection copies.
I know how to ...

I keep my knowledges to me . I could use them for piracy, I do not do it.

What others are doing / saying and communicating is up to them.

If they work for MS or not is not the point.

SJ / germany
 
Actually, Sascha, the original point is that you claimed
something was "illegal" according to Microsoft-
Once more, Microsoft does not make that determination.
They do not make laws, nor are they part of the judicial branch
in any government that I am aware of.


-Michael
 
Sascha said:
There are numerous "silence" solutions available to many Microsoft
products and services.

I can break almost any Eula and license for my insight into some
techniques that affect these products.

I know how to use Vista over the grace period without ever activating it
I know how to install most Microsoft products without valid Keys.
I know how to use reverse engineering
I know how to alter upgrades into full products
I know how to break protection copies.
I know how to ...

I keep my knowledges to me . I could use them for piracy, I do not do it.

What others are doing / saying and communicating is up to them.

If they work for MS or not is not the point.

SJ / germany
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We do not know that the original poster doesn't have a copy of XP. He
said his HD failed. I agree he should have a copy of an earlier Windows
in order to upgrade. But there is nothing wrong in using the alternate
clean upgrade if MS included it in their code.
 
And... there you go... point made. Guy has XP but wants to do a clean
install. Buys upgrade version of Vista. Installs Vista without inputting a
product key, gets his clean install, then runs Vista upgrade from within
Vista desktop and gets what he wants without violating any laws or EULAs.
Well said, Chris.

Lang
 
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