Chkdsk problem on new install?

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Gareth

I don't know if anyone can answer a simple(ish) question I have.

Is it possible for legacy XP hardware drivers to cause disk file problems
with Vista to the extent that chkdsk needs to run?

I'm using Vista with a Samsung PATA drive and a nforce2 motherboard.
Unfortunately Nvidia doesn't provide Vista drivers for nforce2. Consequently
it's necessary to use third party drivers or XP drivers for sound.

Is it possible that legacy drivers are capable of corrupting hard drive
files?

Gareth.
I think
 
I am afraid you have some misconceptions about nForce 2 motherboards and
Vista.

I have a bunch of Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe boards. When I install Vista on them
the nVidia Ethernet driver is installed during the install. On the first
boot into Vista update shortly runs. During update the sound drivers are
installed. Upon a reboot, everything runs as it should.

Granted, you don't have the sound applications that the M/B drivers install
under Windows XP, but the sound is fine.

Also, if you want to use the 3COM Ethernet connection you need to install
the drivers. I have found that the Windows XP driver will install.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
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Richard Urban said:
I am afraid you have some misconceptions about nForce 2 motherboards and
Vista.

I have a bunch of Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe boards. When I install Vista on
them the nVidia Ethernet driver is installed during the install. On the
first boot into Vista update shortly runs. During update the sound drivers
are installed. Upon a reboot, everything runs as it should.

Granted, you don't have the sound applications that the M/B drivers
install under Windows XP, but the sound is fine.

Also, if you want to use the 3COM Ethernet connection you need to install
the drivers. I have found that the Windows XP driver will install.

This is very interesting. I'm also trying to use a A7N8X Deluxe but without
much success.

Most of the drivers (except sound) are loaded without a problem but there's
no way I can get an ethernet driver to install. Is your ethernet driver
being installed from the Vista install disk or from Vista online update? (I
haven't yet been able to go online with Vista as a consequence of needing to
buy a new USB wireless adapter which has not yet arrived).

I note from Google that many other people have had the same problem as me -
most people, it seems, haven't been able to install the correct drivers.

I've used the workarounds described here:

http://www.mydigitallife.info:80/20...drivers-with-alternative-for-audio-and-smbus/

The workaround doesn't result in a stable system however. Whist I can
install smbus without a problem the ethernet driver is a no go (isn't even
recognised as an ethernet driver) and the sound drivers cause all manner of
problems and, if I'm correct, even manage to corrupt the file system on the
Vista install drive.

I would love to know how you managed to get an ethernet driver that is
recognised by Vista. Hopefully when I do manage to go online with Vista I
will be lucky enough to get the same sound drivers as you!

Gareth.
 
The Nvidia Ethernet connection is installed along with the operating system.
Upon the first boot to the desktop Windows Update runs. This pulls in the
sound drivers from the Microsoft web site.

Make sure you have your Ethernet cable plugged into the correct slot. It is
the high slot on the rear panel. The low slot is for the 3COM Ethernet port.
This must be installed from a separate download.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
 
Richard Urban said:
The Nvidia Ethernet connection is installed along with the operating
system. Upon the first boot to the desktop Windows Update runs. This pulls
in the sound drivers from the Microsoft web site.

Make sure you have your Ethernet cable plugged into the correct slot. It
is the high slot on the rear panel. The low slot is for the 3COM Ethernet
port. This must be installed from a separate download.

Thanks Richard. I know this is at least a bit off topic but there's no way I
can get the ethernet drivers to load - I don't however have a physical
ethernet device attached to the port - just an empty port.

Do you have actually have a *stable* Vista install working on the nforce2
motherboard?

Since a clean reinstall (the third) I haven't experienced the chkdsk
problems but, currently lacking internet access, I haven't touched any of
the Vista DVD install drivers and I have no sound. This is the first almost
stable install of Vista on A7N8X I've had - I'm lacking the SMSBus driver
but it doesn't seem to be impacting things. But as I say many of the
potentially problematic drivers are missing including the sound drivers.

The chkdsk problems were a big problem though and I have a feeling they will
return. Oddly Vista chkdsk was unable to fix them - something about there
not being enough disk space to fix the mbr. XP chkdsk was able to fix them.
That's something I don't understand.

I've also noticed, in a dual boot 2 drive system with XP on the master
drive, some unwanted writing to the Vista slave disk from XP. I installed
new ATI Catylst drivers which, it turned out required Net framework >=2. I
Net framework 3 after the drivers and noticed that without any prompting the
MS Net framework installation wrote some files to the slave drive - without
asking for permission or prompting. When I deleted those files from the
Vista slave drive - they had no business as far as I was concerned being
there - I was greeted with the familiar "could not load file or assembly
'MOM.Implementation" message on XP startup.

I think the Vista dual boot loader makes changes to XP that go beyond a mere
selection screen and I wonder if the combination of nforce2 and Vista on a
slave drive (as opposed to the master driver) is causing problems. The Vista
file disk management system has been fubar on at least 2 occasions as a
result, I think, of installing legacy drivers.

And yet when I do witness some stability I'm struck by how nicely Vista runs
on the A7N8X - it's a very elegant OS and one that the A7N8X with a decent
amount of memory and a basic graphics card can handle easily. It's a great
shame that Nvidia no longer has the staff capable of writing legacy drivers.

In the meantime I'm waiting for a new USB adapter to arrive so that I can
use Windows Update with Vista.

Could someone tell me which Vista log file will provide me with chkdsk
failure information?

Gareth.
 
I have installed Vista Ultimate on 5 Asus A7N8X 2.0 Deluxe motherboards. If
you have version 1 of the M/B I have no idea as to whether, or not, it will
work.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
 
For chkdsk results you have to look in the event viewer for all entries
under Window logs | Application and then filter for chkdsk

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
 
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