chipped HPs?

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Brendan R. Wehrung

I'm thinking about my next printer (or at least maker) so a story on the
local news about refilling kiosques at malls and office supply stores
caught my eye. Supposedly HP now includes chips that not only try to
prevent refilling (which can be got around) but expriation dates that
can't.

True?

Refilling issues aside, that would mean that you couldn't stock up on two
or three new HP ones against the next heavy use with the expectation that
they would work if they got out of date, even brand new.

Seems rather stupid to me, if true.

Brendan
 
Yep!
This was true. Maybe still is.
I had a stock of HP cartridges that expired before use.

I did read a few years ago that the EU had passed legislation against
Only-My-Brand ink cartridges in printers.
(i.e. making a printer incompatible with cartridges that were not made by
the printer maker.)
If my memory serves me well, printer makers had until end of 2006 to stop
"protecting" thier printers against "generic" (no brand) cartridges. Looks
like we're nearly there but I suppose that the printer lobbies managed to
extend the delay or something because I have heard nothing about this in the
last few years.

Bye for now,


Booklet
 
Soon the relabelers will be extinct.

But I am hoping that a professional relabeler will arise who will
disclose what they are selling and sell something almost as good for
less than half the price. I am hoping that will force the OEMs to halve
their prices and then we all would win.
 
Booklet" ([email protected]) said:
Yep!
This was true. Maybe still is.
I had a stock of HP cartridges that expired before use.

I did read a few years ago that the EU had passed legislation against
Only-My-Brand ink cartridges in printers.
(i.e. making a printer incompatible with cartridges that were not made by
the printer maker.)
If my memory serves me well, printer makers had until end of 2006 to stop
"protecting" thier printers against "generic" (no brand) cartridges. Looks
like we're nearly there but I suppose that the printer lobbies managed to
extend the delay or something because I have heard nothing about this in the
last few years.

Bye for now,


Booklet
Click to expand...

Seems strange, having to buy cartridges like milk or meat, with a use-by
date.

Brendan
 
Brendan R. Wehrung said:
I'm thinking about my next printer (or at least maker) so a story on the
local news about refilling kiosques at malls and office supply stores
caught my eye. Supposedly HP now includes chips that not only try to
prevent refilling (which can be got around) but expriation dates that
can't.
Click to expand...

There are some HP printers that have expiration of the ink supplies. These
printers have separate ink supplies and printheads, with typically some
"plumbing" to connect them. The expiration date is to protect the (rather
expensive) printheads and plumbing from ink that has thickened over years of
storage. Typically these are the Business Inkjet models, starting with the
Business Inkjet 2000. Some of these models have provisions to override the
ink expiration, but any damage to the printer from expired ink is not
covered by warranty. The models I am familiar with typically have an
expiration date 2.5 years (30 months) from first insertion in the printer or
4 years from date of manufacture, whichever comes first. These are
typically *not* the home user type of printers.

None of the HP printers with integrated cartridges (cartridges with the
printheads and ink supplies combined) have any form of expiration dates,
although they do have "install by" dates. Like breakfast cereal cartridges
do not last forever and are best used when they are fresh. (For most of the
integrated cartridges the "install by" date is eighteen months after the
manufacturing date, and six months before the end of the cartridge
warranty.)

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
back after a week of recovering from a hard drive failure :-(
 
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