Chaning Hardare chipsets wiht XP home

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ChopperDan

Hey there,

First post here,

Is there any pressing issue with windows XP home when upgrading to a
different mother board and processor of different type or make?
I know there will be some sorting out to do with drivers and such, but
will XP just change its configuration or will it explode or worse? I've
not had any problems before but a store tech suggested the idea that it
might.
I'm migrating XP from a P2 300 MHz (its grandpa’s) to an AMD64 3000+.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
ChopperDan said:
Hey there,

First post here,

Is there any pressing issue with windows XP home when upgrading to a
different mother board and processor of different type or make?
I know there will be some sorting out to do with drivers and such, but
will XP just change its configuration or will it explode or worse? I've
not had any problems before but a store tech suggested the idea that it
might.
I'm migrating XP from a P2 300 MHz (its grandpa’s) to an AMD64 3000+.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore *not*
transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless
the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE
controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP
installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair
(a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


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"Some sorting out" get a grip....The only way xp will ever surface on youre
display screen is with a new installation,format,then install.A repair is a
waste
of time.
 
Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefor
*not*
transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting)
unless
the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE
controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP
installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair
(a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://tinyurl.com/qmohl

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at thi
point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking u
a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K befor
it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been mor
than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'l
most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


--

Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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All that seems to make since, now should I intervene when the firs
restart happens and transfer the hardware? Or should I transfer firs
THEN run the reinstall?
Also, I did a transfer of my own system from an asus to an asus and a
AMD to an AMD, which must be why mine went so smoothly...
thanks again
 
backup data.
install hardware then repair win installation
use only drivers from hw manu,not win update
 
With Windows 2000 onward the information from Microsoft on replacing the
motherboad usually says to initiate in in-place upgrade and that when
the computer begins to restart, to shut it down and replace the hardware
then start the computer again. The newer instructions from Microsoft
even say to launch the upgrade from a Windows session. See here:

How to replace the motherboard on a computer that is running Windows
Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125

John
 
Is your Windows XP Home

1) The full Retail version

2) an OEM version from a major manufacturer such as Dell or Gateway

3) a generic OEM version from a small custom maker

If it is the full Retail version, backup your data, including your e-mail,
and do a full installation including reformatting the hard drive. You may
be able to use the automated online activation. You will may have to talk
to Microsoft on the phone, but it shouldn't be a problem.

If it is an OEM version from a major manufacturer such as Dell or Gateway it
will be tied to the old mother board, and you won't be able to transfer it.

If it is a generic OEM version from a small custom maker, backup your data,
including your e-mail, do a repair install, remove the old drivers for your
old motherboard, install the new driver which should come on a CD with the
new motherboard, check the motherboard manufacturers site to see if they
have newer drivers, fix anything else that got broken, and then try to use
the automated online activation.see if you can get Microsoft to Reactivate.
You will probably have to talk to them on the phone. You probably can get
activated, but it's not guaranteed

Todd
 
ChopperDan said:
Is there any pressing issue with windows XP home when upgrading to a
different mother board and processor of different type or make?
I know there will be some sorting out to do with drivers and such, but
will XP just change its configuration or will it explode or worse?
I've not had any problems before but a store tech suggested the idea
that it might.
I'm migrating XP from a P2 300 MHz (its grandpa's) to an AMD64 3000+.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Click to expand...


You will have to do at least a repair installation. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Worst case, that may not be sufficient, and you may have to start from
scratch with a clean installation. So before doing anything, make sure you
have a good current backup of anything you can't afford to lose.
 
Swap in the new motherboard/processor and bootup. Typically you will see one
of 2 things happen. Either XP will boot, recognize the changed hardware and
begin installing drivers or searching for drivers in which case you know
what to do - feed it what it asks for. Or startup will stop with an message
about a corrupt Hal.dll. In this case reboot with an XP Cd and do the
inplace Repair Install as outlined in How To Run a Repair Install
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
 
Andrew said:
"Some sorting out" get a grip....The only way xp will ever surface on youre
display screen is with a new installation,format,then install.A repair is a
waste
of time.
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Why do you keep repeating this deliberate lie?


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ChopperDan said:
All that seems to make since, now should I intervene when the first
restart happens and transfer the hardware? Or should I transfer first
THEN run the reinstall?
Also, I did a transfer of my own system from an asus to an asus and an
AMD to an AMD, which must be why mine went so smoothly...
thanks again!
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Install the new hardware, boot the computer from the WinXP CD, and then
perform the repair installation. *DO NOT* try booting the system from
the hard drive first, unless the motherboard chipsets are virtually
identical.


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'Frank Saunders' wrote:
| I saw him give correct advice once. I'm sure it was an accident.
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| | > Andrew E. wrote:
| >> "Some sorting out" get a grip....The only way xp will ever surface on
| >> youre
| >> display screen is with a new installation,format,then install.A repair
| >> is a waste
| >> of time.
| >
| > Why do you keep repeating this deliberate lie?
|
| I saw him give correct advice once. I'm sure it was an accident.
|
| --
| Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
| "Anyone who prefers security over freedom deserves neither."
|
|
 
Frank said:
I saw him give correct advice once. I'm sure it was an accident.
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Had to have been. I'll bet he hasn't repeated that mistake.

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