Changing partition size

[Matt The HepCat]

Greetings,

I have a "system" partition of about 25g on a 230g WD drive.

Can I change the size of the partition in Windows (WXP SP2)? Or do I
have to use something like Parition Magic?

Many thanks,

Matt The Hepcat

 

[JAD]

a third party partitioning program is needed......however doing this often
times ends up either immediately thrashing the hard drive or down the road
weird system problems.

 

[SteveH]

a third party partitioning program is needed......however doing this often
times ends up either immediately thrashing the hard drive or down the road
weird system problems.

I've merged and resized partitions dozens of times with partition magic and
have yet to have a problem.
And yes, I'm still using drives that have had this treatment 3+ years ago.
Personally, I think that a lot of the problems people claim to have with PM
are caused by a systen that is incorrectly configured to start with or a HDD
that was on the way out anyway.

SteveH

 

[Larc]

| a third party partitioning program is needed......however doing this often
| times ends up either immediately thrashing the hard drive or down the road
| weird system problems.

Or not! Best to use NTFS and make sure cluster size is set to 4K. I've used
Partition Magic to resize many partitions and have never had even the slightest
hint of problems.

One warning: don't set the size too "tight." Leave extra space for additional
installations and defragmenting and for expansion of the pagefile if that's in
the same partition (Microsoft recommends a separate partition for the pagefile,
ideally on a different HDD). I like to keep at least 2 to 2.5 GB free and
usually resize system partitions initially about 3 to 4 GB larger than the total
size of data.

Larc



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[Gremenbulin]

." Leave extra space for additional
installations and defragmenting and for expansion of the pagefile if that's in
the same partition (Microsoft recommends

....but not to the extent of making it a default..

 

[JAD]

I've merged and resized partitions dozens of times with partition magic and
have yet to have a problem.
And yes, I'm still using drives that have had this treatment 3+ years ago.
Personally, I think that a lot of the problems people claim to have with PM
are caused by a systen that is incorrectly configured to start with

Whatever the reason for the strange things that can happen, whether it be
user error/confusion/inexperience or software, STUFF happens. How many
versions of PM have there been? add features, add compatability, fix BUGS.
The mere fact that he was asking the question is a pretty good bet he has
little experience here. If there is data in which he does not want to lose
and has no back up or no OS disk or restore, then I say 'don't do it'.

or a HDD

 

[JAD]

| a third party partitioning program is needed......however doing this often
| times ends up

Or not!

OFTEN TIMES or MAYBE SOMETIMES NOT OR NOT

either immediately thrashing the hard drive or down the road

| weird system problems.
Best to use NTFS and make sure cluster size is set to 4K.

and if its fat32 to start? your suggesting changing the format on top of
resizing?

good luck with that

I've used

Partition Magic to resize many partitions and have never had even the slightest
hint of problems.

One warning: don't set the size too "tight."

Is that in the help file? Keyword 'tight'?


Leave extra space for additional

installations and defragmenting and for expansion of the pagefile if that's in
the same partition (Microsoft recommends a separate partition for the pagefile,
ideally on a different HDD). I like to keep at least 2 to 2.5 GB free and
usually resize system partitions initially about 3 to 4 GB larger than the total
size of data.

Bottom line: I didn't say ALWAYS, so stop protesting so loudly.

 

[Rod Speed]

Nope, XP can do it too with diskpart

I've merged and resized partitions dozens of times with partition magic and have yet to
have a problem.

And yes, I'm still using drives that have had this treatment 3+ years ago.

Personally, I think that a lot of the problems people claim to have with PM are caused
by a systen that is incorrectly configured to
start with or a HDD that was on the way out anyway.

Some are due to PM ****ing up. Its vital to
image a partition before molesting it with PM.

 

[Matt The HepCat]

Good Heavens,

A simple question causes a small firestorm.

Let me just add that the system partition I created when doing a clean
install of XPPro SP2 is 25g. The only reason I'm asking is because I
let my son install Star Wars II Battlefront, which gobbled up 4.3g of
space, which now leaves 6g of space.

The disk is NTFS. I've used PartitionMagic before, but have read that
v.8 has caused problems with SP2 (right, wrong or whatever, this is
what I read). So given the knowledge base in this group, thought I'd
seek some help.

There seems to be two camps:
1) Don't be dork and just leave well enough alone; or
2) PartitionMagic is fine, but like in any software environment don't
expect perfection.

And of course anytime you are fiddling around . . . backup; which isn't
a problem, I have an external drive two which I can back up.

One last question . . . any opinions on Acronis: DIsk Director Suite
(PartitionExpert)?

Thanks,

MTHC

 

[Rod Speed]

Good Heavens,

Bad Hells,

A simple question causes a small firestorm.

Thats the way usenet is.

Let me just add that the system partition I created when doing
a clean install of XPPro SP2 is 25g. The only reason I'm asking
is because I let my son install Star Wars II Battlefront, which
gobbled up 4.3g of space, which now leaves 6g of space.

Yeah, that's the main problem with a separate partition
for the OS and apps, its hard to decide what size to
make it and messy and risky to change it later.

No big deal if you can image the entire physical drive before changing
the partition sizes, but not everyone has the space to do that.

The disk is NTFS. I've used PartitionMagic before, but have
read that v.8 has caused problems with SP2 (right, wrong or
whatever, this is what I read). So given the knowledge base
in this group, thought I'd seek some help.

Its always risky to do anything with PM without a full image
of the physical drive, it can stuff up very spectacularly indeed.

There seems to be two camps:
1) Don't be dork and just leave well enough alone; or
2) PartitionMagic is fine, but like in any software
environment don't expect perfection.

I personally prefer to use Acronis Disk Director Suite, but I'm not
silly enough to use it without a full image of the physical drive either.

And of course anytime you are fiddling around . . . backup; which
isn't a problem, I have an external drive two which I can back up.

Then just use DDS.

One last question . . . any opinions on
Acronis: DIsk Director Suite (PartitionExpert)?

I think its better than PM.

 

[Michael Hawes]

Good Heavens,

A simple question causes a small firestorm.

Let me just add that the system partition I created when doing a clean
install of XPPro SP2 is 25g. The only reason I'm asking is because I
let my son install Star Wars II Battlefront, which gobbled up 4.3g of
space, which now leaves 6g of space.

The disk is NTFS. I've used PartitionMagic before, but have read that
v.8 has caused problems with SP2 (right, wrong or whatever, this is
what I read). So given the knowledge base in this group, thought I'd
seek some help.

There seems to be two camps:
1) Don't be dork and just leave well enough alone; or
2) PartitionMagic is fine, but like in any software environment don't
expect perfection.

3) Uninstall the game and show him how to install to the Data partition!

<snip>
Mike.

 

[John Doe]

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a third party partitioning program is needed......however doing this often
times ends up either immediately thrashing the hard drive or down the road
weird system problems.

 

[saturnlee]

I don't use parition magic. I use the program that comes with Knoppix
(Sorry dont remember the program's name.)

If you want to try, just download the whole iso image of linux knoppix,
and boot the whole linux using the CD.

BEfore you parition, defragment the hard drive.