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Is it common for a virus and/or trojan horse attack to take out the cd rom.
I'm working on a friends machine that he used to go on some rather unsavory
sights and wound up ditw (dead in the water). He went and bought the full
blown Norton product (much to my chagrin) but can't get the CD rom to read
anything.

Have checked device manager, uninstalled and reinstalled the CD rom to no
avail. Am at wits end. Any advice is welcome.

Steve
 
Is it common for a virus and/or trojan horse attack to take out the cd rom.
I'm working on a friends machine that he used to go on some rather unsavory
sights and wound up ditw (dead in the water). He went and bought the full
blown Norton product (much to my chagrin) but can't get the CD rom to read
anything.

Have checked device manager, uninstalled and reinstalled the CD rom to no
avail. Am at wits end. Any advice is welcome.

Steve

Do you have a bootable CD that you could try to boot the PC from. This
would hopefully rule out it being an OS problem, unless something screwed
with the drive's firmware...
It may well be that the CD ROM has failed, is it something he uses often?
 
I do have a bootable CD but machine fails to turn up the cd rom to read it
upon boot attempt. The drive was used up until the infection occured. He's a
gamer so he uses the CDROM daily.
 
GSteven said:
I do have a bootable CD but machine fails to turn up the cd rom to read
it upon boot attempt. The drive was used up until the infection
occured. He's a gamer so he uses the CDROM daily.


See if the manufacturer has a web site and provides a download for a
firmware update to your drive. It is possible a virus "updated" your
drive so it won't work now and doing the firmware update again but with
good code would make it work again (presuming that the drive will still
accept firmware updates).

If your friend uses the drive daily then it is possible it just simply
broke. Does it still work mechanically? Will the tray still eject
using the eject button? Do you hear the disc spin up momentarily when
you insert one? Do you see the LED go on during the boot? Does the
screen after the BIOS POST list the CD drive?
 
Vanguard,

See answers below....
See if the manufacturer has a web site and provides a download for a
firmware update to your drive. It is possible a virus "updated" your
drive so it won't work now and doing the firmware update again but with
good code would make it work again (presuming that the drive will still
accept firmware updates).
I've tried looking for fw update to no avail. It seems the drive is old
enough to be hard to find anything on.
If your friend uses the drive daily then it is possible it just simply
broke.
This is true but highly coincidental and suspicious that it chose to do
so at the moment of infection.
Does it still work mechanically? yes

Will the tray still eject using the eject button? yes

Do you hear the disc spin up momentarily when you insert one?
yes, attempts to spin up 5 times then stops.
Do you see the LED go on during the boot? yes

Does the screen after the BIOS POST list the CD drive?
yes
 
Vanguard,

See answers below....

I've tried looking for fw update to no avail. It seems the drive is old
enough to be hard to find anything on.

This is true but highly coincidental and suspicious that it chose to do
so at the moment of infection.

yes, attempts to spin up 5 times then stops.

yes
Take a look for firmware here, you might get lucky...
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1695
It does sound like it could be a f/w issue, although I haven't come across
a virus that would re-write a cd-roms f/w before.
Good Luck!
 
GSteven said:
Vanguard,

See answers below....

I've tried looking for fw update to no avail. It seems the drive is
old enough to be hard to find anything on.

This is true but highly coincidental and suspicious that it chose
to do so at the moment of infection.

yes, attempts to spin up 5 times then stops.

yes


Since the CD-ROM drive works mechanically and is reported in the BIOS
POST mass storage device table, it is most peculiar that you cannot boot
with it assuming that you truly used a bootable CD to test it. No
operating system is loaded at that point so nothing infected within it
would be affecting the use of your CD-ROM drive as a bootable device.
You sure the BIOS has the CD-ROM drive listed in the boot drive sequence
(drive A:, CD-ROM, hard drive)? There is the possibility that you have
a virus in the MBR's bootstrap code (first 460 bytes of the first sector
of the first physical hard drive detected by the BIOS). In that case,
boot using the CD-ROM drive, if possible, since the MBR bootstrap code
won't get ran, using the Windows XP install CD and go into Recovery
Console mode (the first Repair option) to run FIXMBR. There are hazards
with using FIXMBR (the boot virus might reposition and alter the format
of the partition table in the MBR), especially if you are infected, so
save a drive image first of your OS and data partition(s). If the
problem is a boot sector virus (infects the first sector of the active
primary partition usually used to load an OS) then run FIXBOOT to
overwrite the partition's boot sector. Obviously you want to use
Windows XP's FIXBOOT only on the partition where Windows XP is the
controlling OS.

Maybe this is a really old system (over 4-5 years) which doesn't support
booting from the CD-ROM drive. In that case, you will need to use a DOS
bootable floppy that loads the CD-ROM driver in config.sys and
mscdex.exe in autoexec.bat so the ATAPI device gets supported by its
driver. You can get bootable DOS images at http://www.bootdisk.com/
which, I believe, include generic drivers for CD-ROM drives.

Also, please configure AVG to *not* append its promotional signature
onto your posts. It is considered spam. Since you shouldn't be
appending attachments to your posts (or can't because the NNTP server
will then discard your post), your use of an anti-virus program in a
non-binary newsgroup is irrelevant and considered spamming of AVG. You
want to look like you are some affiliate of theirs promoting their
product?

As far as it being coincidental that the CD-ROM drive failed when the
virus hit, that would really only apply if the problem was trying to use
the CD-ROM drive when you actually had loaded the infected OS or used
the infected file(s) under that OS. Not being able to boot from the
CD-ROM drive is a hardware failure, a BIOS setup misconfiguration if
booting from CD-ROM drive is supported, or an "update" of its firmware
since nothing of the OS or infected files would be loaded when trying to
boot from the CD-ROM drive.

Also, sometimes friends, family, and coworkers really do not tell you
the whole story, either. Maybe the CD-ROM drive failure occurred at the
same time as the virus detection (but remember that your friend didn't
know about the infection until sometime AFTER getting infected, and why
is your friend getting infected?). Maybe your friend really didn't
install any new software as they claim between when it worked and when
it failed. I've had lots of users claiming their system was just like
before but then I find lots of changes and they'll respond, "Oh, yeah,
that. I forgot or it shouldn't matter." Getting the real story
requires digging past their egos or prodding their memories, or you
digging inside to see what really changed since then.
 
CD issue went away when I installed a different CD ROM drive. XP detected it
and installed drivers automatically and have had no problems since. The
drive I installed was from teh same era (a HP P-II box) and is not an RW
drive.

I have been able to successfully load and run Norton SW and removed most of
the errant viruses and trojans, quaratined the remainder.

I still think the CD failure had something to do with the infection, though
I may never truly know. I do intend to install the old CD into another box
to see if it works properly.

Will follow up with results. Thanks for all of the input.
Steve
 
Before you do anything, use a can of compressed air to clean out the drive.
Ive had that be a problem in the past. A single piece of cat hair, dust
etc. can prevent the drive from seeing a disk.
 
Replace the drive !

Dave



| Is it common for a virus and/or trojan horse attack to take out the cd rom.
| I'm working on a friends machine that he used to go on some rather unsavory
| sights and wound up ditw (dead in the water). He went and bought the full
| blown Norton product (much to my chagrin) but can't get the CD rom to read
| anything.
|
| Have checked device manager, uninstalled and reinstalled the CD rom to no
| avail. Am at wits end. Any advice is welcome.
|
| Steve
|
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I hate Cd drives. I never buy software. I either download it or get
it on floppy when ever possible. I copied my Win98 CD into my
harddrive to eliminate needing a cd. About once a year I am forced to
use a cd for some reason or another, and everytime I am forced to also
replace the cd drive with a new one, which will work after I install
it, and a year later it too will be trash, and once again I will have
to buy a new drive. I am just going thru this again. In order to
send my digital photos in to a local company for printing, they
require me to use their software, and give me a CD. Why they cant
just put it on the web, I dont understand. So, after not using the cd
drive for a year or more, I stick in this cd, hear an annoying
clatter, my computer hangs for 5 min and I finally get a drive error.
Several minutes later I get a blue screen which says "system halted".

Someone recently told me that instead of buying another harddrive to
store all my digital photos, I should buy a cd burner. My reply was
"in that case, I may as well just delete all my pictures and save the
cost and hassle of making cds that will never work".

I'll never understand why they didn't just find a way to make floppies
that hold a gig or two. At least we'd have something usable.
 
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