CD-ROM drive detected by BIOS but not by Win98

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Doug Laidlaw

My daughter's computer has the above problem. I can see plenty on Google
about the drive not being detected by either, but not this scenario. I
assume that it is a Windows problem, although it happened half-way through
a reinstall. Even the boot floppy can't see the drive, and refuses to load
the usual drivers. Is it perhaps a failed drive?

Doug.
 
My daughter's computer has the above problem. I can see plenty on Google
about the drive not being detected by either, but not this scenario. I
assume that it is a Windows problem, although it happened half-way through
a reinstall. Even the boot floppy can't see the drive, and refuses to load
the usual drivers. Is it perhaps a failed drive?

Doug.
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G'day :)


F8 bootup/Safemode/Control Panel/System/Device Manager and
remove,"ALL" entries under the Cdrom section and re-boot.
If this doesn't cure it start reading here,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/mode.html

If the system came with an,"Install/Motherboard" CD you may have to
re-install the mother board drivers as the motherboard is a device
just like any other on the system.
HTH :)



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My daughter's computer has the above problem. I can see plenty on Google
about the drive not being detected by either, but not this scenario. I
assume that it is a Windows problem, although it happened half-way through
a reinstall. Even the boot floppy can't see the drive, and refuses to load
the usual drivers. Is it perhaps a failed drive?
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Doubtful.

Install the drivers for the cdrom. If you don't have them, go to the
mfg'ers site and get them.

Its probably just a simple problem that the cdrom is newer than
98...so the drivers that came with 98 don't work for that cdrom.

The same explanation is true for the boot floppy. The generic driver
on that floppy doesn't always work for every drive...especially if the
drive is actually also a writer or even DVD writer.

You don't need to reinstall any motherboard drivers. The BIOS is
seeing the drive fine.

Good luck.



Remember to honor our troops...past and present.

And have a nice Memorial Day weekend.

Trent©
 
Doubtful.

Install the drivers for the cdrom. If you don't have them, go to the
mfg'ers site and get them.

Its probably just a simple problem that the cdrom is newer than
98...so the drivers that came with 98 don't work for that cdrom.

The same explanation is true for the boot floppy. The generic driver
on that floppy doesn't always work for every drive...especially if the
drive is actually also a writer or even DVD writer.

You don't need to reinstall any motherboard drivers. The BIOS is
seeing the drive fine.
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It is possible the Win98 boot floppy driver won't work with drive, but
quite unlikely that win98 itself wouldn't... doesn't really matter that
drive is newer than win98, if anything that makes it more likely
compatible than an old drive.

More likely it is a bios setting or IDE device jumper problem.
 
Trent© said:
Doubtful.

Install the drivers for the cdrom. If you don't have them, go to the
mfg'ers site and get them.
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Oh BS. Windows 98 has 32bit CDRom support natively. The "drivers" are 16 bit
drivers for dos. You know like when you boot into dos and your drive isn't
recognized like you wondered about in another post? It's because you
haven't loaded THESE drivers in dos!
Its probably just a simple problem that the cdrom is newer than
98...so the drivers that came with 98 don't work for that cdrom.

LOL


The same explanation is true for the boot floppy. The generic driver
on that floppy doesn't always work for every drive...especially if the
drive is actually also a writer or even DVD writer.
BS


You don't need to reinstall any motherboard drivers. The BIOS is
seeing the drive fine.
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What do these have to do with each other?
 
It is possible the Win98 boot floppy driver won't work with drive, but
quite unlikely that win98 itself wouldn't...
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Why? If the driver proper isn't there, its a good possibility that
the drive isn't gonna be recognized. The boot drive scenario isn't
any different than a Win98 scenario.

I've run across many cdrom's that weren't recognized by 98...until the
proper driver was installed. As I stated, this is especially true of
burners.
doesn't really matter that
drive is newer than win98, if anything that makes it more likely
compatible than an old drive.
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Strongly disagree. My experience has been just the opposite.
More likely it is a bios setting or IDE device jumper problem.
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BIOS sees it fine...although the OP never mentioned the controller for
jumper settings.



Remember to honor our troops...past and present.

And have a nice Memorial Day weekend.

Trent©
 
My daughter's computer has the above problem. I can see plenty on Google
about the drive not being detected by either, but not this scenario. I
assume that it is a Windows problem, although it happened half-way through
a reinstall. Even the boot floppy can't see the drive, and refuses to load
the usual drivers. Is it perhaps a failed drive?

Doug.
Click to expand...

Try here,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/hard.html
and,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/mode.html
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/cdroms.html
HTH :)



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
email shepATpartyheld.de
Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
 
Trent© said:
Why? If the driver proper isn't there, its a good possibility that
the drive isn't gonna be recognized. The boot drive scenario isn't
any different than a Win98 scenario.

I've run across many cdrom's that weren't recognized by 98...until the
proper driver was installed. As I stated, this is especially true of
burners.
Click to expand...


???? From aopen's web site:

http://club.aopen.com.tw/faq/FAQ_showAnswer.asp?RecNo=100&Language=English

Q100: Do you need CD-ROM drivers for Windows 95 a/b, Windows NT 3.51, 4.0, &
OS/2 Warp 3.0, 4.0 ?

All of Acer Components IDE CD-ROMs do not need a new CD-ROM driver for
Windows 95, Windows NT 3.51, 4.0, and OS/2 Warp 3.0, 4.0. Since all Acer
IDE CD-ROMs are ATAPI 2.0 compliant, they will be automatically detected by
the system. Some of the earlier versions of OS/2 Warp, however, require you
go to CD-ROM configuration and select the Unlisted IDE CD-ROM driver for
use with the 525E. For OS/2 V2.11, an IBM IDE CD-ROM driver is needed. The
file name is ATAPI.ZIP and it is available for download from the IBM BBS at
407-443-8000 or 919-517-0001.
 
Why? If the driver proper isn't there, its a good possibility that
the drive isn't gonna be recognized. The boot drive scenario isn't
any different than a Win98 scenario.
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The scenario is different because it's a different driver.

I've run across many cdrom's that weren't recognized by 98...until the
proper driver was installed. As I stated, this is especially true of
burners.
Click to expand...

That is very odd, I can't remember the last time a driver was needed,
except some older systems upgraded to Win98 that had IDE-via-soundcard
which needed the driver.

Strongly disagree. My experience has been just the opposite.
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Which drives?
BIOS sees it fine...although the OP never mentioned the controller for
jumper settings.
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We might have to distinguish between BIOS "seeing" a drive and the drive
being functional, if it even works... any boot-capable CDROM with a
motherboard supporting such feature (anything made in the past several
years) certainly does not, cannot need a driver to boot (a bootable CD).
 
kony said:
That is very odd, I can't remember the last time a driver was needed,
except some older systems upgraded to Win98 that had IDE-via-soundcard
which needed the driver.
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Exactly. The drives all comply to a -standard- and this is why there is a
standard to start with!
We might have to distinguish between BIOS "seeing" a drive and the drive
being functional, if it even works... any boot-capable CDROM with a
motherboard supporting such feature (anything made in the past several
years) certainly does not, cannot need a driver to boot (a bootable CD).
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Exactly. How can a CDrom be bootable if it requires a driver to work?
 
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