Cat 6.7 is out

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For what its worth.
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The install instructions used to be to uninstall the Catalyst and the
display driver and then install. It seems ATI has changed the
instructions and now want you to uninstall all the ATI stuff first. I
wonder if it is worth all this bother?

Al
 
The install instructions used to be to uninstall the Catalyst and the
display driver and then install. It seems ATI has changed the
instructions and now want you to uninstall all the ATI stuff first. I
wonder if it is worth all this bother?
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I've been using this 'cat-uninstall.exe' thingy I got from their site
awhile back. Not sure if it's still recommended, but I did use it
recently against 6.6...
 
BD said:
I've been using this 'cat-uninstall.exe' thingy I got from their site
awhile back. Not sure if it's still recommended, but I did use it
recently against 6.6...
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I've installed the last 3 updates without uninstalling the old one, I don't
notice anything wrong. Maybe I just don't see anything and everything is
screwed up?

Just installed .net 2.0 also, as suggested by this new driver update. Boy,
I sure am happy I have a high-speed connection, over 50meg downloaded in
updates today.

Hope this update helps my game play. I got a really strange thing going on
in Oblivion that keeps me scratching my head. The after glow on spell
casting hangs around to long- fires stop and go - doors opening are all
delayed, everything else is OK.

William
 
..Net 2 is a totally different piece of software from .Net 1.x. It is
not an upgrade or a replacement, and any given software package that
uses .Net uses either version 1 or version 2 (and, because of this, many
computers will need to have both .Net version 1 and .Net version 2
installed).

Consequently I am curious about your comment that "Just installed .net
2.0 also, as suggested by this new driver update."

As I understand it, either .Net version 2 is required for a given
application, or if it's not required, then installing it does nothing at
all as far as that particular application is concerned.

???
 
Barry:

ATI's download page shows .Net download as part 1 of 2. Part 2 of 2 is the
new drivers and ccc. I passed by part 1 as I already have .Net 1 installed
on my system when I downloaded NASA WorldWind last year and figured that was
what they wanted.

I got a pop-up notice while installing the new ATI driver that it wanted
..Net 2 installed to run ccc. Just for the fun of it, I ran ccc and all
works as far as I could see with .Net 1. But after a quick look at ccc I
went back to ATI and downloaded the .Net 2 package and installed it too.
All looks OK to me. I did not uninstall .Net 1, so I couldn't tell you if I
have both running or not. What ever .Net 2 wanted to do, it did.

Non of the web sites I read have mentioned that .Net 2 is anything more than
an update to .Net 1. What you are saying is news to me. I know the
software developers package has been out for a year for .Net 2, downloadable
from ms. I have heard nothing about backwards compatibility problems. I
haven't fired up WorldWind yet, so I can't say if their is any problems with
it, though I doubt their will be any. What you are saying doesn't make any
sense. CCC didn't care. I can't see ms making .Net 2 unable to run .Net 1
programs. They would be shooting themselves in the foot if it couldn't.

You have me confused. I think you are mistaken.


William
 
Barry said:
.Net 2 is a totally different piece of software from .Net 1.x. It is
not an upgrade or a replacement, and any given software package that
uses .Net uses either version 1 or version 2 (and, because of this,
many computers will need to have both .Net version 1 and .Net version
2 installed).

Consequently I am curious about your comment that "Just installed .net
2.0 also, as suggested by this new driver update."

As I understand it, either .Net version 2 is required for a given
application, or if it's not required, then installing it does nothing
at all as far as that particular application is concerned.

???
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What confuses me about this is that some time ago I got an early CCC to
run with *only* .NET 2 installed. Stupidly when I got 2 I assumed it
replaced 1.1 and I removed 1.1 !! Now I have neither..... but that's me.

There must be some commonality that means some apps can run in either
environment, perhaps the ati application detects which is present and
makes a "choice" ???


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My point was that .Net version 1.x and .Net version 2 are totally
different products (perhaps it would have been more clear if they did
not have the same "dot-net" names). Both are programming environments,
but a program (MMC in this case) uses one or the other (and in most
cases won't run unless the right version of .net is installed).

Perhaps the confusion is that part 2 of ATI's download (which may be
required) has nothing to do with .Net version 2 (I'm speculating here,
not stating a fact). However, .net version 1 is about 11 megabytes,
while .net version 2 is 22 megabytes (the size of the ATI download). So
my presumption is that the latest version of Catlyst requires .Net
version 2, while previous version required version 1 (not sure if that's
true or not, however .... previous versions may also have required
version 2).

..Net version 2 is not an update to .Net version 1, it's an entirely
different product that does not replace version 1. At least that's what
I've been told by multiple programmers who work with this stuff at the
programming level. Eventually, most computers will probably have both
of them installed for different programs that were written for version 1
or version 2.
 
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I've installed the last 3 updates without uninstalling the old one, I don't notice anything wrong. Maybe I just don't see
anything and everything is screwed up?
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Hope this update helps my game play. I got a really strange thing going on in Oblivion that keeps me scratching my head.
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8)
 
I remember reading here a few months ago that CCC needing both versions
installed to run in the past.

Does this mean that with this version of CCC I can uninstal 1.0 and 1.1 and
just keep 2.0?
 
I've got a AGP X850 XT.
When I install this new 6.7 version, it hangs on the ATI WDM install.
Specifically the IKernel.exe program.

I've tried almost everything. (i.e. removing all drivers, rebooting many
times, starting in safe mode, etc.) I just cannot get the ATI WDM to setup
correctly. The video card drivers and CCC install just fine.

What gives?
 
McGruff said:
I've got a AGP X850 XT.
When I install this new 6.7 version, it hangs on the ATI WDM install.
Specifically the IKernel.exe program.
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You may need to get fairly low-level to diagnose something like this.

There's a program out there called 'filemon.exe'. It basically monitors
every call to the OS which involves file access. If something's
happening in the filesystem, you'll see it here. I've used that tool to
troubleshoot server-related difficulties on numerous occasions.

The process you'd likely want to follow would be to narrow down the
scope of what it's doing to only the executable(s) of the installer
(ikernel.exe) - and then, with tracing turned on, do the install
process. You'll see a log of all file access up to the point of the
hang.

Might not tell you anything useful, but it might, for example, make you
aware of some process which is holding open a file that the installer
needs access to...

If you use it, you _will_ initially see a huge flood of entries,
because there are numerous processes accessing files in your system at
any given time. I normally let that flood start, and then one by one,
select an item with a process that I don't want to monitor, and
explicitly exclude it. Eventually, there'll be a controllable list of
logging information there.

Useful tool, to be sure.
 
Before updating to 6.7, I had maybe 8 choices for
screen resolution. Now I only have 4, and 3 of them
are worthless. Wonder what happened? I did a
clean install, and the native 1440 x 900 looks fine
except I can't read the fonts ... too small.

johns
 
If the fonts are too small, set the Windows GUI to make EVERYTHING
larger (do not change just a font size .... change the DPI setting in
Display properties / settings / Advanced). Leave the resolution set for
the native resolution.
 
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