Cat 5.6 and WMV9 acceleration

[Tony DiMarzio]

Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never able to
hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g. "Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv")
off of MS's site. It would drop frames to maybe an effective 15fps and CPU
utilization would be pegged at 100%. I was, however able to play 720p
content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full FPS with no frame drops previous
to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I can
play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down to below
50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual Channel)
[OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans, 1x80mm
exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[fish]

Hello,
I just downloaded the Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv, Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv
and a few others available. They all playback at a fast, solid and fluid
24fps. If I'm not wrong, HD is produced at 24fps not at 30fps. According to
Windows Task Manager, CPU usage is between 19% and 31%, mostly in the low
20's.

System is WinXP SP2, MediaPlayer10, Intel P4 3.0e Prescott at 3.8GHz, 1GB
OCZ Platinum Rev2 memory at 255Mhz cl3-4-3-6, ATI X800XT at 525MHz/1100MHz
memory, Maxtor MaXLine III SATA-150's in RAID-1 on an Intel SATA-150
(SATAII) southbridge.

How can you hit 30fps?

 

[First of One]

Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work with
DXVA.

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

I meant 24fps... obviously

Oh and HD specs resolution.... not necessarily fps. There is HD content
available at >30fps. See "First of One"'post.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

Hello,
I just downloaded the Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv, Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv
and a few others available. They all playback at a fast, solid and fluid
24fps. If I'm not wrong, HD is produced at 24fps not at 30fps. According
to Windows Task Manager, CPU usage is between 19% and 31%, mostly in the
low 20's.

System is WinXP SP2, MediaPlayer10, Intel P4 3.0e Prescott at 3.8GHz, 1GB
OCZ Platinum Rev2 memory at 255Mhz cl3-4-3-6, ATI X800XT at 525MHz/1100MHz
memory, Maxtor MaXLine III SATA-150's in RAID-1 on an Intel SATA-150
(SATAII) southbridge.

How can you hit 30fps?

Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never able
to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames to
maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at 100%. I
was, however able to play 720p content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full
FPS with no frame drops previous to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util
was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I can
play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down to
below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual Channel)
[OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv" results
in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of hardware
acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video. Sucks...
Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a larger variety of
HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work
with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never able
to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames to
maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at 100%. I
was, however able to play 720p content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full
FPS with no frame drops previous to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util
was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I can
play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down to
below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual Channel)
[OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[fish]

Ok, I see. Thanks Tony.

I meant 24fps... obviously

Oh and HD specs resolution.... not necessarily fps. There is HD content
available at >30fps. See "First of One"'post.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

Hello,
I just downloaded the Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv, Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv
and a few others available. They all playback at a fast, solid and fluid
24fps. If I'm not wrong, HD is produced at 24fps not at 30fps. According
to Windows Task Manager, CPU usage is between 19% and 31%, mostly in the
low 20's.

System is WinXP SP2, MediaPlayer10, Intel P4 3.0e Prescott at 3.8GHz, 1GB
OCZ Platinum Rev2 memory at 255Mhz cl3-4-3-6, ATI X800XT at
525MHz/1100MHz memory, Maxtor MaXLine III SATA-150's in RAID-1 on an
Intel SATA-150 (SATAII) southbridge.

How can you hit 30fps?

Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never able
to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames to
maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at 100%. I
was, however able to play 720p content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at
full FPS with no frame drops previous to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU
util was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I can
play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down to
below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[fish]

WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005 Xbox
360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.

As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of hardware
acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a larger
variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work
with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never able
to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames to
maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at 100%. I
was, however able to play 720p content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at
full FPS with no frame drops previous to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU
util was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I can
play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down to
below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

You're really hitting 60FPS with 50 CPU utilization? There must be something
else wrong with my system then....

I can only hit 22fps with 100% CPU utilization, and that's on an Athlon
FX-53 OC'd to FX-55 speeds.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005
Xbox 360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.

As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of hardware
acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a larger
variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work
with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never
able to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames to
maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at 100%. I
was, however able to play 720p content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at
full FPS with no frame drops previous to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU
util was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I
can play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down
to below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[fish]

My OC'ed P4 at 3.8 with a 1000+ FSB is hitting performance values as an FX55
or better (but not by much). My memory BUS is at 1:1 at 250Mhz with fairly
tight memory timings for that speed. Bandwidth is in excess of 6200mb/sec.

I understand that the FX's can achieve a somewhat higher 3D gaming level but
the P4 with Hyper Threading makes for a more useful machine for me. I was
mostly an Athlon user (overclocker) until the P4C came out so I am not
partial towards either.

I just replaced a 9800Pro with the X800XT a week or two ago. The X800XT is
MUCH faster then the 9800Pro, no comparison! At least with 3D apps. I was
hardly able to play Doom3 at 1024 X 768 at Medium Quality with NO eye candy.
Now I can play at 1280 X 1024 at High Quality with 4X AA and 8X AF. Giant
difference in performance ability.

Enjoy.

You're really hitting 60FPS with 50 CPU utilization? There must be
something else wrong with my system then....

I can only hit 22fps with 100% CPU utilization, and that's on an Athlon
FX-53 OC'd to FX-55 speeds.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005
Xbox 360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.

As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of hardware
acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a
larger variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work
with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never
able to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames to
maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at 100%.
I was, however able to play 720p content (Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at
full FPS with no frame drops previous to WMV9 acceleration, but the
CPU util was very high- on the order of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I
can play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is down
to below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

Regardless of anything else, there is no reason your system should be
performing more than 2X as fast as mine. There must be some software or
library problem somewhere that is killing my WMV9 HD performance. I've tried
many, many things and can not isolate the problem. I fear that I'll probably
have to do a clean install of Windows to kill the bug. eh..............
probably should anyway....... this is the longest I've EVER gone on the same
install of Windows (any version). Last time I did a clean install was over a
year ago.

My OC'ed P4 at 3.8 with a 1000+ FSB is hitting performance values as an
FX55 or better (but not by much). My memory BUS is at 1:1 at 250Mhz with
fairly tight memory timings for that speed. Bandwidth is in excess of
6200mb/sec.

I understand that the FX's can achieve a somewhat higher 3D gaming level
but the P4 with Hyper Threading makes for a more useful machine for me. I
was mostly an Athlon user (overclocker) until the P4C came out so I am not
partial towards either.

I just replaced a 9800Pro with the X800XT a week or two ago. The X800XT is
MUCH faster then the 9800Pro, no comparison! At least with 3D apps. I was
hardly able to play Doom3 at 1024 X 768 at Medium Quality with NO eye
candy. Now I can play at 1280 X 1024 at High Quality with 4X AA and 8X AF.
Giant difference in performance ability.

Enjoy.

You're really hitting 60FPS with 50 CPU utilization? There must be
something else wrong with my system then....

I can only hit 22fps with 100% CPU utilization, and that's on an Athlon
FX-53 OC'd to FX-55 speeds.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005
Xbox 360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.


As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of hardware
acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a
larger variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work
with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never
able to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames
to maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at
100%. I was, however able to play 720p content
(Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full FPS with no frame drops previous
to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util was very high- on the order of
85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I
can play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is
down to below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[fish]

I agree! That's why I said the X800XT's 3D performance was high but its 2D
should be close and your OC'ed FX should be able to make up the difference.

I'd be very surprised if it was due to the video card.

I do WinXP Systems restores at good points and keep the last two or three. I
keep my C: partition relatively small, like 30GB and put my 'My Documents'
folder on my D: drive along with games which take up lots of space and all
my video and music files. The C: drive only has regular applications and the
system, my ASR's are generally never any larger then 10GB and I keep them on
my D: partition or another hard drive. In this way I can revert the system
to a good point in time without having to re-install ALL my applications.
Its a big time saver.
BTW: you can go into Windows in safe mode, logon as administrator and
restore from an ASR. This will essentially to the same as a regular
Automated System Restore without formatting the C: partition. Another big
time saver.

Regardless of anything else, there is no reason your system should be
performing more than 2X as fast as mine. There must be some software or
library problem somewhere that is killing my WMV9 HD performance. I've
tried many, many things and can not isolate the problem. I fear that I'll
probably have to do a clean install of Windows to kill the bug.
eh.............. probably should anyway....... this is the longest I've
EVER gone on the same install of Windows (any version). Last time I did a
clean install was over a year ago.

My OC'ed P4 at 3.8 with a 1000+ FSB is hitting performance values as an
FX55 or better (but not by much). My memory BUS is at 1:1 at 250Mhz with
fairly tight memory timings for that speed. Bandwidth is in excess of
6200mb/sec.

I understand that the FX's can achieve a somewhat higher 3D gaming level
but the P4 with Hyper Threading makes for a more useful machine for me. I
was mostly an Athlon user (overclocker) until the P4C came out so I am
not partial towards either.

I just replaced a 9800Pro with the X800XT a week or two ago. The X800XT
is MUCH faster then the 9800Pro, no comparison! At least with 3D apps. I
was hardly able to play Doom3 at 1024 X 768 at Medium Quality with NO eye
candy. Now I can play at 1280 X 1024 at High Quality with 4X AA and 8X
AF. Giant difference in performance ability.

Enjoy.

You're really hitting 60FPS with 50 CPU utilization? There must be
something else wrong with my system then....

I can only hit 22fps with 100% CPU utilization, and that's on an Athlon
FX-53 OC'd to FX-55 speeds.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005
Xbox 360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.


As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of
hardware acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a
larger variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't
work with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never
able to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames
to maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at
100%. I was, however able to play 720p content
(Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full FPS with no frame drops previous
to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util was very high- on the order
of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I
can play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is
down to below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake
fans, 1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

All good points... and everyone has their preferred "method" of keeping
their windows install and respective partitions clean and easy to maintain.
Mine is probably different than most others...

I never actually re-format the partition; doing this would wipe out all of
that data on that partition needlessly. What I do is either boot into a
second Windows or Linux partition (if I had one at the time) and then delete
the directories "\program files" and "\windows" and "\documents and
settings" and whatever other directories have explicit ties to the previous
windows install................... or........... boot into the recovery
console and issue rename commands to the aforementioned directories, then
delete the renamed directories after windows is re-installed.

Doing it this way, for me, enables me to keep everything (games, media,
pr0n, documents, apps etc...) all on one large partition without ever having
to format and wipe out those files.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

I agree! That's why I said the X800XT's 3D performance was high but its 2D
should be close and your OC'ed FX should be able to make up the difference.

I'd be very surprised if it was due to the video card.

I do WinXP Systems restores at good points and keep the last two or three.
I keep my C: partition relatively small, like 30GB and put my 'My
Documents' folder on my D: drive along with games which take up lots of
space and all my video and music files. The C: drive only has regular
applications and the system, my ASR's are generally never any larger then
10GB and I keep them on my D: partition or another hard drive. In this way
I can revert the system to a good point in time without having to
re-install ALL my applications. Its a big time saver.
BTW: you can go into Windows in safe mode, logon as administrator and
restore from an ASR. This will essentially to the same as a regular
Automated System Restore without formatting the C: partition. Another big
time saver.

Regardless of anything else, there is no reason your system should be
performing more than 2X as fast as mine. There must be some software or
library problem somewhere that is killing my WMV9 HD performance. I've
tried many, many things and can not isolate the problem. I fear that I'll
probably have to do a clean install of Windows to kill the bug.
eh.............. probably should anyway....... this is the longest I've
EVER gone on the same install of Windows (any version). Last time I did a
clean install was over a year ago.

My OC'ed P4 at 3.8 with a 1000+ FSB is hitting performance values as an
FX55 or better (but not by much). My memory BUS is at 1:1 at 250Mhz with
fairly tight memory timings for that speed. Bandwidth is in excess of
6200mb/sec.

I understand that the FX's can achieve a somewhat higher 3D gaming level
but the P4 with Hyper Threading makes for a more useful machine for me.
I was mostly an Athlon user (overclocker) until the P4C came out so I am
not partial towards either.

I just replaced a 9800Pro with the X800XT a week or two ago. The X800XT
is MUCH faster then the 9800Pro, no comparison! At least with 3D apps. I
was hardly able to play Doom3 at 1024 X 768 at Medium Quality with NO
eye candy. Now I can play at 1280 X 1024 at High Quality with 4X AA and
8X AF. Giant difference in performance ability.

Enjoy.

You're really hitting 60FPS with 50 CPU utilization? There must be
something else wrong with my system then....

I can only hit 22fps with 100% CPU utilization, and that's on an Athlon
FX-53 OC'd to FX-55 speeds.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005
Xbox 360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.


As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of
hardware acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a
larger variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't
work with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never
able to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames
to maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at
100%. I was, however able to play 720p content
(Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full FPS with no frame drops previous
to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util was very high- on the order
of 85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544,
I can play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is
down to below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake
fans, 1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)

 

[First of One]

Ever tried Knoppix Linux? It's a full-featured operating system (complete
with web browser, media player, Office...) running off a CD-ROM. Beats the
crap out of any Windows boot disc.

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

Heard of it... but never tried it. I'll probably try it when I need to set
up a drive-less box. Until then, no real need

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

Well..... I figured IT OUT!!!!! and it didn't take a clean install of
Windows XP SP2.

Never in my life, would I have thought that "AGP Fast Writes" could have
such a significant performance impact on, well... anything! As a rule of
thumb I've _always_ left it disabled to avoid potential complications and
because ATI cards don't generally benefit from having it on.

So I was just about to give up hope (this is after I booted into my XP debug
partition, which is basically a clean windows install I don't use for
anything but bug verification, and found that WMV9's were performing
abnormally in there too) when I decided to try MS's website to see if there
was any useful support documentation (long shot I know...). I then tried
this link,
http://ccon.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/vendors/microsoft_wmvhd/advisor,
clicked on the T2: Judgment Day link, and ran the "Will it play on my PC?"
link. This installed a FutureMark OCX control that ran some quick test. At
the end of the test, it said my system may not be sufficient to play this
movie because "AGP Fast Writes" were not available. I smell an epiphany
coming..........

I rebooted faster that fsck and entered the BIOS, turned back on AGP Fast
Writes, saved/exited, loaded windows, re-ran ATI SmartGart, rebooted
again.... and THEN, loaded up the "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360
Video.wmv". What the hell do you know?! It played flawlessly! NO dropped
frames. That's 60FPS, and CPU utilization was 40-45%. All along I've been
trying to figure this out and finally.... well... it was "AGP Fast Writes" -
the loathed instability-inducing AGP option from hell.

The shock hasn't worn off yet obviously. So, the question remains, "Why the
HELL does AGP Fast Writes yield greater than 2X performance increase when
decoding WMV9 Hi-Def videos?" --- Does anyone have any ideas?

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

My OC'ed P4 at 3.8 with a 1000+ FSB is hitting performance values as an
FX55 or better (but not by much). My memory BUS is at 1:1 at 250Mhz with
fairly tight memory timings for that speed. Bandwidth is in excess of
6200mb/sec.

I understand that the FX's can achieve a somewhat higher 3D gaming level
but the P4 with Hyper Threading makes for a more useful machine for me. I
was mostly an Athlon user (overclocker) until the P4C came out so I am not
partial towards either.

I just replaced a 9800Pro with the X800XT a week or two ago. The X800XT is
MUCH faster then the 9800Pro, no comparison! At least with 3D apps. I was
hardly able to play Doom3 at 1024 X 768 at Medium Quality with NO eye
candy. Now I can play at 1280 X 1024 at High Quality with 4X AA and 8X AF.
Giant difference in performance ability.

Enjoy.

You're really hitting 60FPS with 50 CPU utilization? There must be
something else wrong with my system then....

I can only hit 22fps with 100% CPU utilization, and that's on an Athlon
FX-53 OC'd to FX-55 speeds.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)

WOW!

The file Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv and Quake 4 E3 2005
Xbox 360 Video.wmv are1280 X 720, 10000kbps video-2.

On my rig they play back at 60fps with about 50% CPU usage.

I can't wait for Quake4, it looks great.


As I expected... playing "Call of Duty 2 E3 2005 Xbox 360 Video.wmv"
results in 100% CPU utilization and a visually obvious lack of hardware
acceleration.

I was only able to hit 22-23 fps of the total 60fps in that video.
Sucks... Oh well, maybe later drivers will be able to accelerate a
larger variety of HD combinations.

--
Tony DiMarzio
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)


Try these XBox 360 game trailers at 720p:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=110829&mpage=1&#110829

The Call of Duty one is supposed to be at 60 fps, which shouldn't work
with DXVA.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


Well... what can I say? It works. With the below setup, I was never
able to hit 30fps on the 1080p Hi-Def content ( e.g.
"Step_into_Liquid_1080.wmv") off of MS's site. It would drop frames
to maybe an effective 15fps and CPU utilization would be pegged at
100%. I was, however able to play 720p content
(Step_into_Liquid_720.wmv) at full FPS with no frame drops previous
to WMV9 acceleration, but the CPU util was very high- on the order of
85%.

Now, after Installing CAT 5.6 and following the procedure at
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=19544, I
can play 1080p Hi-Def content at full FPS, and CPU utilization is
down to below 50%.

**** YEAH!

--------System Specs----------------------
Windows XP (2600-Professional) w/ SP2
AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-53, 1MB L2 Cache (2.4ghz@200mhz-FSB)
ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro (BIOS: 1011)
VIA Hyperion 4in1 456v
1024mb (2 x (512mb OCZ Platinum EL (2-3-2-5) DDR400/PC3200) Dual
Channel) [OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K]
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Catalyst 4.10) (C-378mhz / M-337.5mhz) OC to
(C-411.75mhz / M-360.00mhz)
SbAudigy 5.1 (PCI-Slot 3)

*Promise FastTrak 378 (PDC20378) 2+0/RAID 0*
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 1of2)
120gb Western Digital WD1200JB (RAID 2of2)

16x HI-VAL DVDRom (BDV316C) secondary/master
Plextor (PX-716SA) VIA SATA-1

LianLi PC-6070 *Silent* Aluminum Mid-Tower Case | 2x80mm intake fans,
1x80mm exhaust fan, 1x slot cooler
OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU | +3.3V(28A), +5V(52A), +12V(28A)