Can't ping

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I can't ping my friend's ip address.
He lives in Arizona and I live in Nevada.
His IP is almost identical to mine. His
firewall was off.

Thanks : -)
 
Almost identical? They don't start with 192.168 or 10. do they? If so
those aren't publically accessible addresses.
 
Ken Wickes said:
Almost identical? They don't start with 192.168 or 10. do they? If so
those aren't publically accessible addresses.
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Yes they do. Thanks, now this is starting to make sense.
Do addresses that aren't publicly accessible... how do
you ping them? Does that mean that 'remote assistance'
won't work because I can't get through to them?
Thanks : -)
 
192.168.x.x addresses are typically assigned by home routers. Those same
routers usually have an interface to set up a port mapping which allows you
to open a port on the router and forward it to a internal computer of your
choice. Then you use the IP address of your router as the target address.
They may not respond to pings, but this will work for most applications.

If you router supports UPnP then some things (like Remote Assistance) should
work automatically, or you can use the Internet Gateway icon in the
connections folder to create port mappings.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
 
Ken Wickes said:
192.168.x.x addresses are typically assigned by home routers. Those same
routers usually have an interface to set up a port mapping which allows you
to open a port on the router and forward it to a internal computer of your
choice. Then you use the IP address of your router as the target address.
They may not respond to pings, but this will work for most applications.

If you router supports UPnP then some things (like Remote Assistance) should
work automatically, or you can use the Internet Gateway icon in the
connections folder to create port mappings.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Not so quick said:
Yes they do. Thanks, now this is starting to make sense.
Do addresses that aren't publicly accessible... how do
you ping them? Does that mean that 'remote assistance'
won't work because I can't get through to them?
Thanks : -)
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

I appreciate you help. I'm confused. The people (2) who have tried to
get remote assistance from me don't have routers. Their addresses
were, as you asked starting with 192.168.?.? Does what you wrote
before mean that there are a bunch of routers out there with those
beginning numbers? How can the system know their unique addresses
to... I don't know. Maybe there is no need for anyone to know the
ip of anyone. But they do not have routers, of that I'm sure. And there
requests for assistance didn't go through. Would it be better to use
messenger than outlook express?
Thanks again : -)
 
Not so quick said:
Ken Wickes said:
192.168.x.x addresses are typically assigned by home routers. Those same
routers usually have an interface to set up a port mapping which allows you
to open a port on the router and forward it to a internal computer of your
choice. Then you use the IP address of your router as the target address.
They may not respond to pings, but this will work for most applications.

If you router supports UPnP then some things (like Remote Assistance) should
work automatically, or you can use the Internet Gateway icon in the
connections folder to create port mappings.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Not so quick said:
Almost identical? They don't start with 192.168 or 10. do they?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
If
so
Click to expand...

I appreciate you help. I'm confused. The people (2) who have tried to
get remote assistance from me don't have routers. Their addresses
were, as you asked starting with 192.168.?.? Does what you wrote
before mean that there are a bunch of routers out there with those
beginning numbers? How can the system know their unique addresses
to... I don't know. Maybe there is no need for anyone to know the
ip of anyone. But they do not have routers, of that I'm sure. And there
requests for assistance didn't go through. Would it be better to use
messenger than outlook express?
Thanks again : -)
Click to expand...

Typically ISPs will only give you one public IP address. A home router lets
you share this address among several computers through a scheme called
Network Address Translation. Basically the router takes the one public
address and gives each computer a private address (192.168.x.x). Then
whenever a computer talks to the Internet, the router replaces the private
address with the public address then remembers which computer the traffic
was for.

UPnP enabled routers should be able to handle this automatically. Is your
router UPnP enabled?
 
Ken Wickes said:
Not so quick said:
Ken Wickes said:
192.168.x.x addresses are typically assigned by home routers. Those same
routers usually have an interface to set up a port mapping which
Click to expand...
allows
you
to open a port on the router and forward it to a internal computer of your
choice. Then you use the IP address of your router as the target address.
They may not respond to pings, but this will work for most applications.

If you router supports UPnP then some things (like Remote Assistance) should
work automatically, or you can use the Internet Gateway icon in the
connections folder to create port mappings.

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



Almost identical? They don't start with 192.168 or 10. do they?
Click to expand...
If
so
those aren't publically accessible addresses.

Yes they do. Thanks, now this is starting to make sense.
Do addresses that aren't publicly accessible... how do
you ping them? Does that mean that 'remote assistance'
won't work because I can't get through to them?
Thanks : -)
Click to expand...

I appreciate you help. I'm confused. The people (2) who have tried to
get remote assistance from me don't have routers. Their addresses
were, as you asked starting with 192.168.?.? Does what you wrote
before mean that there are a bunch of routers out there with those
beginning numbers? How can the system know their unique addresses
to... I don't know. Maybe there is no need for anyone to know the
ip of anyone. But they do not have routers, of that I'm sure. And there
requests for assistance didn't go through. Would it be better to use
messenger than outlook express?
Thanks again : -)
Click to expand...

Typically ISPs will only give you one public IP address. A home router lets
you share this address among several computers through a scheme called
Network Address Translation. Basically the router takes the one public
address and gives each computer a private address (192.168.x.x). Then
whenever a computer talks to the Internet, the router replaces the private
address with the public address then remembers which computer the traffic
was for.

UPnP enabled routers should be able to handle this automatically. Is your
router UPnP enabled?
Click to expand...

My router is a Linksys but I haven't checked out the
upnp. But isn't the problem with the computer than
is asking for remote assistance?
: -)
 
Get your friends to type the following at the command
prompt:
ipconfig /all

It will show a bunch of info, which is probably going to
be two main parts - one for their network card (this will
be the one with the 192.168.x.x IP address), the other
should be their Internet connection. Try pinging the IP
address listed under the Internet section.

Or, you could all just go to a site like
http://whatismyipaddress.net/ and it will tell you what
IP your internet connection is using.

cheers,
myth-unit
 
myth-unit said:
Get your friends to type the following at the command
prompt:
ipconfig /all

It will show a bunch of info, which is probably going to
be two main parts - one for their network card (this will
be the one with the 192.168.x.x IP address), the other
should be their Internet connection. Try pinging the IP
address listed under the Internet section.

Or, you could all just go to a site like
http://whatismyipaddress.net/ and it will tell you what
IP your internet connection is using.

cheers,
myth-unit
Click to expand...

Thanks. whatismyipaddress.net worked but the
ipconfig /all didn't give the information. It didn't
even seem to have a place for anything but the
network card (which I thought was the router ip).
I wonder why ipconfig /all doesn't give my address.

Do you think that connecting through Windows
Messenger might be better than through Outlook
Express for "Remote Assistance"?
 
myth-unit said:
Get your friends to type the following at the command
prompt:
ipconfig /all

It will show a bunch of info, which is probably going to
be two main parts - one for their network card (this will
be the one with the 192.168.x.x IP address), the other
should be their Internet connection. Try pinging the IP
address listed under the Internet section.

Or, you could all just go to a site like
http://whatismyipaddress.net/ and it will tell you what
IP your internet connection is using.

cheers,
myth-unit
Click to expand...

Is there a way to use a DOS command to find out
what my address is and the person who I'm talking
to is while on Messenger? Someone said that there
was something that you could do while sending a
file.

Thanks : -)
 
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