There is no reason to keep any FP webs / files in your default location
C:\Documents and Settings\Gordon\My Documents
Create a top level folder in Windows
- for "loose" page Say C:\MyPages
- for a web Say C:\MyWebA or C:\MyWebB
Copy all your files to the appropriate folder
Open the Web folder in FP by using File Open Web/Site and browse to C:\MyWeb (FP will convert it to a web)
--
| The procedure I used was:
|
| 1. Open FP
| 2. Try opening file with FP
| 3. Shut down FP
| 4. Rename folder using Windows Explorer
|
| Repeated 1 thru 4 reducing the path length until FP was able to open the
| file. Then increased th path length by one characher and FP quit working
| again.
|
| Gordon
| --
| It all seems so complicated until you figure it out.
|
|
| "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
|
| > Are you making the folder name changes in FP or via Windows?
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > WebMaster Resources(tm)
| >
| > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > ==============================================
| > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >
http://support.microsoft.com
| > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > ==============================================
| >
| > | > > I'll concede that I don't use FP to It's fullest capabilities but it just
| > > doesn't fit with my site requirements. One thing it allows me to do is
| > > quickly create pages and preview them. My site is not only a web site but
| > > has many other interactive elements that FP is clearly not designed to handle.
| > >
| > > I'll say again that I've been using FP for years, moving files, moving to
| > > new PCs, restructuring folders and moving to newer versions of FP and never
| > > had a problem until now.
| > >
| > > This structure works: (files copied from old folder)
| > > C:\Documents and Settings\Gordon\My
| > > Documents\a\b\web\luke\pictures\Cens\1850_Census_Philadelphia_Philadelphia_Pennsylvania.htm
| > >
| > > I started randomly renaming the folders with shorter names until I got FP to
| > > work then added back one character and it quit working again.
| > >
| > > I guess if I had to boil it down to one question it would be: Why does
| > > renaming the folder "Cens" to Censu" (adding one more character to the path
| > > causes FP to get the Can't open page error...???
| > >
| > > It still seems like a max path length problem to me. I guess I'll just pick
| > > one of the paths that work and not worry about it.
| > >
| > > Thanks for you responses.
| > >
| > > Gordon
| > > --
| > > It all seems so complicated until you figure it out.
| > >
| > >
| > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Basically you are using FP in a way it was not designed to be used, which is why the FP Editor
| > >> and
| > >> FP Explorer were combined as of the release of FP2000.
| > >>
| > >> FP strongest point is it's ability to manage a collection of files and folders as complete web
| > >> site,
| > >> not individual files and folders.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> ==============================================
| > >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> WebMaster Resources(tm)
| > >>
| > >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >> ==============================================
| > >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >>
http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > >> ==============================================
| > >>
| > >> | > >> > Ok, I've decided that locating the hundreds of FP generated web pages in my
| > >> > site so I can save them to another folder is not a viable thing to do.
| > >> > I've been moving html files around to different folders for a lot of years
| > >> > without problems. What I'm seeing here is perplexing. I'm not creating any
| > >> > "Webs". I only use FP for an html page editor, so there's no Web to publish
| > >> > anywhere. On the file menu, Publish Web is greyed out no matter where my
| > >> > pages are located because I've never created a Web. I've been doing this
| > >> > since the first release of FP without any problems. Each page stands on it's
| > >> > own so there is no association with a FrontPage Web. I've never imported any
| > >> > pages to a Web, mainly because I don't like the way FP tries to "manage" all
| > >> > the links.
| > >> >
| > >> > I have done some experimenting by moving the root folder of one of my sites
| > >> > to various different folders and found the following:
| > >> >
| > >> > I am using one file as an example of one of several hundred (in various
| > >> > folders) that won't open in the given circumstance.
| > >> >
| > >> > The original path for the file(s) was:
| > >> > C:\Legacy\web\Pictures\Census
| > >> > Documents\1850_Census_Philadelphia_Philadelphia_Pennsylvania.htm
| > >> >
| > >> > I've been creating FP pages in the above folder for the last year or so. I
| > >> > also have other pages created in "My Webs\xxxxx" and other places that I
| > >> > have been able to "copy" to this and other folders and then edit.
| > >> >
| > >> > Legacy is a program that likes to install itself in C:\Legacy and default
| > >> > the user files to the same folder where the app is installed. I've been
| > >> > fighting backups for the last year having to seperate the user files from
| > >> > the app everytime I want to do a backup not to mention other logistical
| > >> > problems with publishing to the web and creating CD presentations. This is
| > >> > the reason for my reorg. I reinstalled the app in "Program Files\Legacy",
| > >> > where, in my opinion, is where it belongs, and then set the user files
| > >> > parameter to" My Documents\CD_luke_family" which is where all my user
| > >> > created files are located. I have everything organized for easy web
| > >> > publishing, CD creation and backups. Everything is working fine in Legacy.
| > >> > It can read all the files. Everything else works fine The only problem I am
| > >> > having is that FP can't open any of my html files.
| > >> >
| > >> > I "copied" all the files to:
| > >> > C:\Documents and Settings\Gordon\My
| > >> > Documents\CD_luke_family\FamilyPictures\web\luke\pictures\Census
| > >> > Documents\1850_Census_Philadelphia_Philadelphia_Pennsylvania.htm
| > >> >
| > >> > I can't edit any files in the above folder.
| > >> >
| > >> > If I "rename/move" the files in C:\Documents and Settings\Gordon\My
| > >> > Documents\CD_luke_family\FamilyPictures\web\luke\pictures\Census Documents\
| > >> > (the path that doesn't work) to one of the three paths below I CAN edit
| > >> > them. (this makes me think the error doesn't have anything to do with
| > >> > importing/publishing)
| > >> >
| > >> > 1. C:\Documents and Settings\Gordon\My
| > >> > Documents\a\b\web\luke\pictures\Cens\1850_Census_Philadelphia_Philadelphia_Pennsylvania.htm
| > >> > Note : In the path above renaming the folder "Cens" to Censu" (adding
| > >> > one more character to the path causes FP to get the Can't open page
| > >> > error...???
| > >> >
| > >> > 2. C:\CD_luke_family\FamilyPictures\web\luke\pictures\Census
| > >> > Documents\1850_Census_Philadelphia_Philadelphia_Pennsylvania.htm
| > >> >
| > >> > 3. C:\Documents and Settings\Gordon\My Documents\My
| > >> > Webs\CD_luke_family\FamilyPictures\web\luke\pictures\Census
| > >> > Documents\1850_Census_Philadelphia_Philadelphia_Pennsylvania.htm
| > >> >
| > >> > This doesn't make sense to me.
| > >> >
| > >> > The web pages are very simple....html below...
| > >> > ----------------------
| > >> > <html>
| > >> >
| > >> > <head>
| > >> > <title>Census Page</title>
| > >> > <base target="_blank">
| > >> >
| > >> > </head>
| > >> >
| > >> > <body BGCOLOR="FFF8F2" >
| > >> >
| > >> > <p align="center"><img border="0"
| > >> > src="1850%20Census%20Philadelphia%20Philadelphia%20Pennsylvania.jpg"
| > >> > width="2720" height="3327">
| > >> >
| > >> > </html>
| > >> > -------------------------
| > >> >
| > >> > I also have another site "CD_schmalz_family" that acts the same way.
| > >> >
| > >> > My web site is a conglomeration of various pages generated by various means.
| > >> > FP is only one several apps I use to create html files.
| > >> >
| > >> > My next option is to move the sites to one of the locations that does work,
| > >> > but I'd really like to understand what's going on.
| > >> >
| > >> > Gordon
| > >> >
| > >> > --
| > >> > #cd /;/bin/rm -r *& - If you understand this you know how exciting life can
| > >> > be.
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> You don't save, you use File Menu | Publish | Web / Site an pages not created in FP,
| > >> >> need/should
| > >> >> to
| > >> >> be imported into FP before using/linking.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> --
| > >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> >> WebMaster Resources(tm)
| > >> >>
| > >> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >> >>
http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >>
| > >> >> | > >> >> > Thomas, I'll try what you say. It'll take me a while and I'll have to
| > >> >> > experiment a little. My site has over 2000 pages (Not all generated by FP) so
| > >> >> > I don't think it's going to be as simple as saving from one site to another.
| > >> >> > I'll do some testing and probably have more info about what's going on
| > >> >> > tomorrow. I think I'm going to create a couple new test sites.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > Thanks,
| > >> >> > Gordon
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >> Always publish the site from one location to another via FP and if you need to move
| > >> >> >> folder/files
| > >> >> >> within the web then do so from within FP.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> Do the above you will not have this problem.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> After creating the folder, did you open the folder via FP and let FP make it a web / site?
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> --
| > >> >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> >> >> WebMaster Resources(tm)
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >> >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> >> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> >> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >> >> >>
http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> >> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> >> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > >> >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> | > >> >> >> >I copied everything using Windows Explorer. I can copy them anywhere as long
| > >> >> >> > as the path name is fairly short. I also make it a practice to use relative
| > >> >> >> > addressing for all my links so it shouldn't matter where anything resides as
| > >> >> >> > long as I don't change the structure of anything in the web site. It seems to
| > >> >> >> > be around 150 or so characters that it starts complaining that it can't open
| > >> >> >> > the file.
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> > I just created a new page and saved it in the new directory structure and it
| > >> >> >> > displays ok with IE. Then I tried opening it with FP and it gives me the same
| > >> >> >> > error... "Couldn't open file: C:\Documents and
| > >> >> >> > Settings...\blah\blah\blah\blah.htm.
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> > Gordon
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> >> How did you move the files, from within or outside of FP? Should always be done from
| > >> >> >> >> within
| > >> >> >> >> FP,
| > >> >> >> >> never using any other method.
| > >> >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> >> --
| > >> >> >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > >> >> >> >> WebMaster Resources(tm)
| > >> >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > >> >> >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> >> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > >> >> >> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > >> >> >> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > >> >> >> >>
http://support.microsoft.com
| > >> >> >> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > >> >> >> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > >> >> >> >> ==============================================
| > >> >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> >> | > >> >> >> >> >I have reorganized my file structure resulting in longer path names. Now I
| > >> >> >> >> > can't open any of my htm files with FrontPage 2000 . If I move them to a
| > >> >> >> >> > location with a shorter path I can open them.
| > >> >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> >> > Is there a max file/path length for FP? If so what is the max? And, is there
| > >> >> >> >> > any way to get around the limitation?
| > >> >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> >> > Thanks....
| > >> >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> >> > --
| > >> >> >> >> > It all seems so complicated until you figure it out.
| > >> >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> >>
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >>
| > >>
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| >
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