Can't get glass effect to work.

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Hello,

I have recently been playing around with Windows Vista Public Beta 2 on
another computer.

At first the PC had a very old graphic card in it and the glass effect
didn't get activated during install as the card wasn't powerful enough.

So I stuck a Prophet 9800 Pro 128MB in there which is more than enough to
handle it.

With this 9800 Pro I kept getting error code 43 in the device manager.
Eventually I gave up and put in a 9200 128MB card which is also enough to
handle the glass effect.

With this 9200 it gave no errors in the device manager and the fade effects
now worked properly on the switch user screen etc. but the gladd effect
still did not work.

I tried to install the ATI beta Vista drivers but at the end it gave some
language and package errors. I checked on the site but the 9200 was not
listed in the supported cards list even though it is a RADEON.

So, using the Windows graphic drivers, how can I get the glass effect
working please?

Thanks,
Craig.
 
Peter M said:
Unfortunately you can't... the 9200 is a DX 8.1 card and glass requires a
DX9 card.
Click to expand...

Hmmm, ok. Got any ideas how I can fix the 9800 Pro error code 43 problem
please?

Thanks,
Craig.
 
Was the 9800 in there while you were cleanly installing Vista?
How about trying that/
If not, did you take out all earlier video drivers that you installed?

Is the 9800 an ATI or Nvidia card(I can't keep track)
I believe the Nvidia cards are having better luck under Vista from what I
have seen on this newsgroup(and my 2 machines worked fine with their 88.61
drivers)
 
The 9800 WILL work. Personally, I'd just reformat and reinstall. I've had
Vista choke on a video card change.

Tom
 
Tom;
I was referring to the 9200 which is not supported and should not support
glass.
As for the 9800, I agree with you.
Whatever is causing the driver issue may need to be fixed by a Clean Install
if installing the drivers does not work.
Something is obviously wrong and it possibly goes beyond the video card.
This is the nature of Beta and not totally unexpected.
Besides if it is a recent installation, there is little to lose and much to
gain.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
 
I have exactly this problem, a sapphire 9800 pro, and no joy. I can't count
how many times I have reinstalled, clean from the dvd, upgrade from xpsp2,
formatting c: or not, every combination.

The card's recognised correctly and the MS WDDM drivers install
automatically but then don't start - Code 43. The ATI beta 2 drivers have
the same problem, they install happily ( as long as I have the locale of the
computer set to US ) but then don't start.

The only way I can get the card to use hardware at all is to install the XP
drivers in XP compatibility mode, and these give me something, the desktop
fades in, winsat aurora and d3d work but no aero, i.e none of the DWM stuff.
Without the XP driver it's code 43 all the way. Is there anywhere I can try
to diagnose what the root cause of the Code 43 error is? There's nothing I
can see in the event logs, and I can't make head nor tail of what to do from
the details in setupact, setupapi.dev and setupapi.app logs

this from setupapi.app
[DIF_ADDPROPERTYPAGE_ADVANCED -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:45.156
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Using exported function 'DisplayClassInstaller' in module
'C:\Windows\system32\DispCI.dll'.
dvi: Class installer == DispCI.dll,DisplayClassInstaller
dvi: No CoInstallers found
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:45.171
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

[DIF_DESTROYPRIVATEDATA -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

I'm digging through setupapi.dev.log now, is there any way I can manually
force the driver through by identifying the failure points in here? I can
make some educated guesses about what's being said in here but I don't feel
like guessing, I'd rather have a reference of some sort to identify the
*real* problem, then I can let the installer work its magic. Is this
approach even possible??

Thanks in advance
 
Hmmm, reading back on everyone's replies I think i'll try a re-install, I
just hope I don't get the same problems as Leon.

Thanks for the help,
Craig.
I have exactly this problem, a sapphire 9800 pro, and no joy. I can't count
how many times I have reinstalled, clean from the dvd, upgrade from xpsp2,
formatting c: or not, every combination.

The card's recognised correctly and the MS WDDM drivers install
automatically but then don't start - Code 43. The ATI beta 2 drivers have
the same problem, they install happily ( as long as I have the locale of
the computer set to US ) but then don't start.

The only way I can get the card to use hardware at all is to install the
XP drivers in XP compatibility mode, and these give me something, the
desktop fades in, winsat aurora and d3d work but no aero, i.e none of the
DWM stuff. Without the XP driver it's code 43 all the way. Is there
anywhere I can try to diagnose what the root cause of the Code 43 error
is? There's nothing I can see in the event logs, and I can't make head nor
tail of what to do from the details in setupact, setupapi.dev and
setupapi.app logs

this from setupapi.app
[DIF_ADDPROPERTYPAGE_ADVANCED -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:45.156
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s
C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Using exported function 'DisplayClassInstaller' in module
'C:\Windows\system32\DispCI.dll'.
dvi: Class installer == DispCI.dll,DisplayClassInstaller
dvi: No CoInstallers found
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:45.171
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

[DIF_DESTROYPRIVATEDATA -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s
C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

I'm digging through setupapi.dev.log now, is there any way I can manually
force the driver through by identifying the failure points in here? I can
make some educated guesses about what's being said in here but I don't
feel like guessing, I'd rather have a reference of some sort to identify
the *real* problem, then I can let the installer work its magic. Is this
approach even possible??

Thanks in advance

Jupiter Jones said:
Tom;
I was referring to the 9200 which is not supported and should not support
glass.
As for the 9800, I agree with you.
Whatever is causing the driver issue may need to be fixed by a Clean
Install if installing the drivers does not work.
Something is obviously wrong and it possibly goes beyond the video card.
This is the nature of Beta and not totally unexpected.
Besides if it is a recent installation, there is little to lose and much
to gain.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I had trouble getting glass to work also. No problems with video driver.
NVida FX 5200 card with windows driver. What I had to do is change the
scheme from Windows Vista Aero to Windows Vista Basic and then back again
and the glass effect started working. I got a couple of IE non responsive
errors and now seems to have settled down.

Flip

Hmmm, reading back on everyone's replies I think i'll try a re-install, I
just hope I don't get the same problems as Leon.

Thanks for the help,
Craig.
I have exactly this problem, a sapphire 9800 pro, and no joy. I can't
count how many times I have reinstalled, clean from the dvd, upgrade from
xpsp2, formatting c: or not, every combination.

The card's recognised correctly and the MS WDDM drivers install
automatically but then don't start - Code 43. The ATI beta 2 drivers have
the same problem, they install happily ( as long as I have the locale of
the computer set to US ) but then don't start.

The only way I can get the card to use hardware at all is to install the
XP drivers in XP compatibility mode, and these give me something, the
desktop fades in, winsat aurora and d3d work but no aero, i.e none of the
DWM stuff. Without the XP driver it's code 43 all the way. Is there
anywhere I can try to diagnose what the root cause of the Code 43 error
is? There's nothing I can see in the event logs, and I can't make head
nor tail of what to do from the details in setupact, setupapi.dev and
setupapi.app logs

this from setupapi.app
[DIF_ADDPROPERTYPAGE_ADVANCED -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:45.156
Click to expand...
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s
C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Using exported function 'DisplayClassInstaller' in module
'C:\Windows\system32\DispCI.dll'.
dvi: Class installer == DispCI.dll,DisplayClassInstaller
dvi: No CoInstallers found
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:45.171
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

[DIF_DESTROYPRIVATEDATA -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
Click to expand...
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s
C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

I'm digging through setupapi.dev.log now, is there any way I can manually
force the driver through by identifying the failure points in here? I can
make some educated guesses about what's being said in here but I don't
feel like guessing, I'd rather have a reference of some sort to identify
the *real* problem, then I can let the installer work its magic. Is this
approach even possible??

Thanks in advance

Jupiter Jones said:
Tom;
I was referring to the 9200 which is not supported and should not
support glass.
As for the 9800, I agree with you.
Whatever is causing the driver issue may need to be fixed by a Clean
Install if installing the drivers does not work.
Something is obviously wrong and it possibly goes beyond the video card.
This is the nature of Beta and not totally unexpected.
Besides if it is a recent installation, there is little to lose and much
to gain.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


The 9800 WILL work. Personally, I'd just reformat and reinstall. I've
had Vista choke on a video card change.

Tom
Craig;
Since the card is not supported, you can't.
There is more to the video requirements than memory if you want all
the features:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capablefootnotes.mspx

Before acquiring a video card, verify with the manufacturer that it is
on the list of supported video cards.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org



Hello,

I have recently been playing around with Windows Vista Public Beta 2
on another computer.

At first the PC had a very old graphic card in it and the glass
effect didn't get activated during install as the card wasn't
powerful enough.

So I stuck a Prophet 9800 Pro 128MB in there which is more than
enough to handle it.

With this 9800 Pro I kept getting error code 43 in the device
manager. Eventually I gave up and put in a 9200 128MB card which is
also enough to handle the glass effect.

With this 9200 it gave no errors in the device manager and the fade
effects now worked properly on the switch user screen etc. but the
gladd effect still did not work.

I tried to install the ATI beta Vista drivers but at the end it gave
some language and package errors. I checked on the site but the 9200
was not listed in the supported cards list even though it is a
RADEON.

So, using the Windows graphic drivers, how can I get the glass effect
working please?

Thanks,
Craig.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Phillip Schlueter said:
I had trouble getting glass to work also. No problems with video driver.
NVida FX 5200 card with windows driver. What I had to do is change the
scheme from Windows Vista Aero to Windows Vista Basic and then back again
and the glass effect started working. I got a couple of IE non responsive
errors and now seems to have settled down.

Flip

Hmmm, reading back on everyone's replies I think i'll try a re-install, I
just hope I don't get the same problems as Leon.

Thanks for the help,
Craig.
I have exactly this problem, a sapphire 9800 pro, and no joy. I can't
count how many times I have reinstalled, clean from the dvd, upgrade from
xpsp2, formatting c: or not, every combination.

The card's recognised correctly and the MS WDDM drivers install
automatically but then don't start - Code 43. The ATI beta 2 drivers
have the same problem, they install happily ( as long as I have the
locale of the computer set to US ) but then don't start.

The only way I can get the card to use hardware at all is to install the
XP drivers in XP compatibility mode, and these give me something, the
desktop fades in, winsat aurora and d3d work but no aero, i.e none of
the DWM stuff. Without the XP driver it's code 43 all the way. Is there
anywhere I can try to diagnose what the root cause of the Code 43 error
is? There's nothing I can see in the event logs, and I can't make head
nor tail of what to do from the details in setupact, setupapi.dev and
setupapi.app logs

this from setupapi.app

[DIF_ADDPROPERTYPAGE_ADVANCED -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:45.156
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s
C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Using exported function 'DisplayClassInstaller' in module
'C:\Windows\system32\DispCI.dll'.
dvi: Class installer == DispCI.dll,DisplayClassInstaller
dvi: No CoInstallers found
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:45.171
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]


[DIF_DESTROYPRIVATEDATA -
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00\4&F74CB32&0&0008]
Section start 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
cmd: "C:\Windows\System32\mmc.exe" /s
C:\Windows\System32\compmgmt.msc
dvi: Class installer: Enter
dvi: Class installer: Exit
dvi: Default installer: Enter
dvi: Default installer: Exit
<<< Section end 2006/06/22 02:49:51.390
<<< [Exit status: FAILURE(0xe000020e)]

I'm digging through setupapi.dev.log now, is there any way I can
manually force the driver through by identifying the failure points in
here? I can make some educated guesses about what's being said in here
but I don't feel like guessing, I'd rather have a reference of some sort
to identify the *real* problem, then I can let the installer work its
magic. Is this approach even possible??

Thanks in advance

Tom;
I was referring to the 9200 which is not supported and should not
support glass.
As for the 9800, I agree with you.
Whatever is causing the driver issue may need to be fixed by a Clean
Install if installing the drivers does not work.
Something is obviously wrong and it possibly goes beyond the video
card.
This is the nature of Beta and not totally unexpected.
Besides if it is a recent installation, there is little to lose and
much to gain.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


The 9800 WILL work. Personally, I'd just reformat and reinstall. I've
had Vista choke on a video card change.

Tom
Craig;
Since the card is not supported, you can't.
There is more to the video requirements than memory if you want all
the features:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capablefootnotes.mspx

Before acquiring a video card, verify with the manufacturer that it
is on the list of supported video cards.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org



Hello,

I have recently been playing around with Windows Vista Public Beta 2
on another computer.

At first the PC had a very old graphic card in it and the glass
effect didn't get activated during install as the card wasn't
powerful enough.

So I stuck a Prophet 9800 Pro 128MB in there which is more than
enough to handle it.

With this 9800 Pro I kept getting error code 43 in the device
manager. Eventually I gave up and put in a 9200 128MB card which is
also enough to handle the glass effect.

With this 9200 it gave no errors in the device manager and the fade
effects now worked properly on the switch user screen etc. but the
gladd effect still did not work.

I tried to install the ATI beta Vista drivers but at the end it gave
some language and package errors. I checked on the site but the 9200
was not listed in the supported cards list even though it is a
RADEON.

So, using the Windows graphic drivers, how can I get the glass
effect working please?

Thanks,
Craig.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

I think I've tried that with the 9800 - but it's got that stupid error 43
which I can't get sorted. Any ideas plz?
 
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