Canon Pixma ip4500 Ink Tank Question

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Have had this new printer for about two weeks.
Have been doing lots of A4 prints which have come out very well
and am now nearing the end of the original Canon colour tanks which
came with the printer.

For replacement tanks I have purchased a set from Cartridge World here
in the UK
which have the chips reset so that ink monitoring will continue.
Magenta tank warns me it is running low. I continue to print.
Then it tells me it is empty. I stop printing immediately and put in
full Cartridge World
tank with reset chip. The printer accepts this tank and continues to
print well.
However, although this tank is plainly full of ink, the ink monitor
tells me it is already low on ink.

A bit later the Yellow tank tells me it is low on ink so, before it
announces that it is empty, I put in
a new Cartridge World yellow tank. This tank now is shown by the ink
monitor as being full.

Do tanks need to be changed on this printer before they announce that
they are empty ?
How can I persuade the ink monitor to read the almost full Magenta tank
correctly ?

Many thanks in advance for helpful replies.

John Chapman
 
John said:
Have had this new printer for about two weeks.
Have been doing lots of A4 prints which have come out very well
and am now nearing the end of the original Canon colour tanks which
came with the printer.

For replacement tanks I have purchased a set from Cartridge World here
in the UK
which have the chips reset so that ink monitoring will continue.
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Now you no longer have a real Canon printer as designed by the Canon
engineers. Your quality will drop. But if you are willing to accept a
lower quality to spend less money and you print enough so the head will
not clog and you are not too concerned about fading then that may be a
good choice for you.
Magenta tank warns me it is running low. I continue to print.
Then it tells me it is empty. I stop printing immediately and put in
full Cartridge World
tank with reset chip. The printer accepts this tank and continues to
print well.
However, although this tank is plainly full of ink, the ink monitor
tells me it is already low on ink.
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Of course. It is no longer a real Canon printer.
 
DanG wrote:

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Have had this new printer for about two weeks. Have been doing lots of A4 prints which have come out very well and am now nearing the end of the original Canon colour tanks which came with the printer. For replacement tanks I have purchased a set from Cartridge World here in the UK which have the chips reset so that ink monitoring will continue. Magenta tank warns me it is running low. I continue to print. Then it tells me it is empty. I stop printing immediately and put in full Cartridge World tank with reset chip. The printer accepts this tank and continues to print well. However, although this tank is plainly full of ink, the ink monitor tells me it is already low on ink. A bit later the Yellow tank tells me it is low on ink so, before it announces that it is empty, I put in a new Cartridge World yellow tank. This tank now is shown by the ink monitor as being full. Do tanks need to be changed on this printer before they announce that they are empty ? How can I persuade the ink monitor to read the almost full Magenta tank correctly ? Many thanks in advance for helpful replies. John Chapman



Consult with the seller of the tanks. Reset chips can mean a number of different things. Often, with remanufactured or compatible tanks, it's recommended to replace them all so you are not mixing types. It could also just be a faulty chip, which is not uncommon. The canon uses a combination of optical sensor and calculated use to determine levels. A lot depends on whether these are remanufactured (refilled) tanks or compatible.

There is no such things as compatible.  They are patented.


In any case, there's nothing you can do to change the way the tanks reads out, except turn off the ink monitoring completely. Again, consult with the seller of the tanks. BTW, there's no need to replace a tank till it reads as completely empty, as long as your prints look OK. The ink level is recorded on the tank chip, so it sounds as if you have a faulty tank. You can keep using it though, till it reports as empty.
 
Now you no longer have a real Canon printer as designed by the Canon
engineers. Your quality will drop. But if you are willing to accept a
lower quality to spend less money and you print enough so the head will
not clog and you are not too concerned about fading then that may be a
good choice for you.

Buy OEM Canon ink.
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It is a pity that the troll has only one message.

In the UK I can buy on the high street a brand new Canon printer
including the 5 Canon OEM inks for less than buying the 5 individual
Canon replacement inks.
So the cost of the printer is nothing and, if I wreck it, it will be
cheaper for
me to buy a new printer.
That is why I can afford to experiment with using non-OEM inks.

I did not ask for this model of pricing.
Personally I would prefer to pay more for the printer
and less for replacement ink tanks.
 
Well said by DanG. I will tell you for sure, there is a matter with resetted
chips. Ask seller.
 
Sounds as though the chip may not have reset correctly. I would take it back
the Cartridge World you originally got it from, don't forget you have an
unconditional warranty on that cartridge.
Regards
Stick
 
John said:
It is a pity that the troll has only one message.

In the UK I can buy on the high street a brand new Canon printer
including the 5 Canon OEM inks for less than buying the 5 individual
Canon replacement inks.
So the cost of the printer is nothing and, if I wreck it, it will be
cheaper for
me to buy a new printer.
That is why I can afford to experiment with using non-OEM inks.
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Then what you need to do is buy a printer everytime you need ink.
I did not ask for this model of pricing.
Personally I would prefer to pay more for the printer
and less for replacement ink tanks.
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You are only looking at the typical standard format printers who share
this pricing model. Starting with the Canon Pro9000 and all of the
other major brand wide format printer you have a different model. A
high printer price like you are asking for with the same high ink
price. So why pay more for a printer. Ink will still be high.
 
Stick Stickus wrote:

Sounds as though the chip may not have reset correctly. I would take it back the Cartridge World you originally got it from, don't forget you have an unconditional warranty on that cartridge. Regards

Wonderful.  With all of the expensive gas and the (probably of little value) value of your time you are really spending more for crap ink then you would with Canon ink and then getting all of the benefits of your printer design.


Stick "John Chapman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Have had this new printer for about two weeks. Have been doing lots of A4 prints which have come out very well and am now nearing the end of the original Canon colour tanks which came with the printer. For replacement tanks I have purchased a set from Cartridge World here in the UK which have the chips reset so that ink monitoring will continue. Magenta tank warns me it is running low. I continue to print. Then it tells me it is empty. I stop printing immediately and put in full Cartridge World tank with reset chip. The printer accepts this tank and continues to print well. However, although this tank is plainly full of ink, the ink monitor tells me it is already low on ink. A bit later the Yellow tank tells me it is low on ink so, before it announces that it is empty, I put in a new Cartridge World yellow tank. This tank now is shown by the ink monitor as being full. Do tanks need to be changed on this printer before they announce that they are empty ? How can I persuade the ink monitor to read the almost full Magenta tank correctly ? Many thanks in advance for helpful replies. John Chapman
 
Stick said:
Sounds as though the chip may not have reset correctly. I would take it back
the Cartridge World you originally got it from, don't forget you have an
unconditional warranty on that cartridge.
Regards
Stick
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Many thanks for this advice.
I have taken the apparently faulty tank back to Cartridge World.
They acknowledge that some chips may have errors.
They exchanged my tank without any fuss and I have fitted this new one
and all goes perfectly once again.
Clearly the chip tells the printer how much ink is left in the tank and
needs
to be reset to "Full" when the tank is refilled.
Cartridge World say come back if any further problems so they are
delivering good customer service.

John Chapman
 
We need to begin to demand a new pricing model. And I believe the only
way that will happen is if it is legislated, so time to work on our
elected representatives (or, since this is a widely read international
group) your local dictator ;-)

Seriously, this business model is very bad for the health of our planet
and its inhabitants, and it makes for crummier inkjet printers in terms
of reliability, because they are "toss away" goods now.

Art
 
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