Canon Pixma ip4200 (UK)

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Anyone got good or bad things to say about this printer?

I read that if you use duplex printing the quality goes down and you have to
adjust to compensate, is true?

Regards and thanks in advance

Pat Macguire
 
When using the duplexing feature you are gaining convenience, ease of
use and very adequate quality when using OEM inks and a good bright
white paper like Hammermill Premium Inkjet paper. The result is not
quite as dark black due to the use of dye ink but very adequate as not
to cause a problem.

It is nice if you want to print a batch of double sided copies. Just
set the printer and go to lunch. When you return you job will be
complete and coalated.
 
Syke said:
Anyone got good or bad things to say about this printer?

I read that if you use duplex printing the quality goes down and you have to
adjust to compensate, is true?

Regards and thanks in advance

Pat Macguire
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I'm on the ip5200, the older brother. My experence has been good.
Text IMHO has not changed since like the i550 or so... but text on the
canons was pretty good then and is pretty good now.

Quality does go down if you use canon's duplex feature. It does auto
duplex... and offers manual duplexing if you prefer flipping the pages
manualy, but auto duplex is rather slow. If you want duplex and best
quality... use the option from the printer driver or print odds and
evens [print 1,3,5..999] [print 2,4,6,...1000].

Do be aware quality goes done as duplex mode does mix the dye and
pigment inks to keep bleeding minimal. This also benifits you as you
can print more than 500p this way... you can fill the printer and
duplex pretty much the max it can hold if printing stuff at normal
yield. But do keep in mind using the dye black raises your cost per
page. Printing single sided plain text mode is more cost effective.

Duplex printing was not a selling point with me... but you might like
it, I can see where it can be handy. Dual trays so you can fill the
bottom with plain paper, and re-insert the paper in the top, that's
nice.
 
Syke said:
Anyone got good or bad things to say about this printer?

I read that if you use duplex printing the quality goes down and you have to
adjust to compensate, is true?
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I refuse to use it. On my ip5000 & iP4000 it's slow as molasses while it
fiddles with the pages (in/out/pause/wait/in/out/pause/wait). Printout
is rather blah since it uses various colours and black to make
"something dark", but not black, as in regular printing. If you have 30
pages double side to print, you'll cut printing time IN HALF (no joke!)
by simply printing the odd pages, turning over the pile, printing the
even. This is the simple truth: nice feature on paper; not so nice in
the business world. If it takes "a lunch hour" to print your documents,
as Measekite suggested, then you know you're going to have a problem.

-Taliesyn
 
Do not listen to this kid. He would change his own oil if going to the
dealer was cheaper. The key words here are as follows:

Satisfacory
Ease of Use


I print using the duplex all of the time. If I want to print out a web
page that can be 3 or 4 pages long I just use the duplex feature and do
not have to calculate anything. I hit the print button and go do
something else either on or off the computer. The results are very
satisfactory.

If you want to print other things then just hit the print button and let
the printer do the work. Yes there will be a pause (you can regulate
the length of time) for the top page to hang and dry some and then
automatically flip over but so what. You can do something else and not
worry about it. The job is already coallated.

This kid is so worried about having the text a little darker (he uses
crappy generic ink not Canon that is prone to fade and is of dubious
quality) and the prints photos with the crappy ink and does not worry
about diminished quality. He will dispute all of this but all of the
professional reviews and www.wilhelm.com who tests inks and papers said
that the generic inks flunk the tests. PCWorld says they could not even
finnish their tests with the generic ink because it clogged the
printer. But the kid claims he is smarter than all of these
organizations. God he has not even finnished high school yet. These
other people are professionals in the business. They completed all of
their leaning. Some are even engineers.
 
measekite said:
Do not listen to this kid. He would change his own oil if going to the
dealer was cheaper. The key words here are as follows:
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I change my own oil... I'd do it if the dealer was cheaper. Every joe
I know in jiffy lube always torques on the drain plug nut too tight.
My sister's Camery had oil changed at the dealer before she bought
it... it's totally stripped out and need to be replaced. This is not
typical but "I" like to look under my hood every 3000 miles. I see the
oil and look for problems.

I don't knock anyone for doing Jiffy lube or the dealer... it's not a
happy job... but no one should knock me or anyone else for doing so.
Only those who don't dispose of their oil properly. For me it's free
anywhere that sells oil up to 5 gallons.

Besides... I save so much time... and the small amount of gas it takes
to go to Jiffy Lube let alone the dealer. Every little bit helps.
 
Oh do pray tell listen to this kid. And for G_d's sake don't listen to
the ignorant bastard ****wit moron meashershithead.
Truth is, auto duplexing on canons is BULLSHIT!!!
Use manual duplexing and you'll be a lot happier.
Frank
 
Hi!
Quality does go down if you use canon's duplex feature. It does auto
duplex... and offers manual duplexing if you prefer flipping the pages
manualy, but auto duplex is rather slow.
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That seems to be true of any inkjet printer that offers it. I have an HP
DeskJet 5850 with the duplexer installed, and using it tends to slow things
down a bit, as the paper pauses to allow ink drying. (I also have an
OfficeJet 9130 with the duplex print option.)

On the plus side, you can push a button on these printers to skip the timer.
There's also a parameter in the driver to adjust pause time, but it never
goes to zero. Skipping the timer on other than draft quality jobs usually
results in some smearing. Print quality seems to remain the same, but for
better options the printer will sit around with a sheet stuck out for some
time.

I don't use the option excessively on these printers, but it is very nice to
have...

William
 
Hi,
As a user of this printer I can say that the print quality, whether text or
graphics is very high. It is very easy to use, the duplex option very handy,
can't say I noticed any great reduction in quality when using it or
reduction too much in speed. I don't believe you can compare single/duplex
printing speeds, they are different jobs.
The cartridges are cheap to have refilled (here comes Measerkite!!). CD
Label print very useful as well. All in all I would say it is a very classy
printer and worth having. It is also the highest selling inkjet printer in
Europe. I got my from Cartridge World in Oxford and have been very pleased
with it. Hope this helps.
 
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The duplex mode of the Pixma ip4200 saves a lot of paper. The
draft mode I find unusable: far too faint. Envelopes sometimes
get crushed.

Sadly, this printer SLURPS ink. For black-and-white use I would
suggest an additional laser printer.

Aka
 
Stick said:
Hi,
As a user of this printer I can say that the print quality, whether text or
graphics is very high. It is very easy to use, the duplex option very handy,
can't say I noticed any great reduction in quality when using it or
reduction too much in speed. I don't believe you can compare single/duplex
printing speeds, they are different jobs.
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The above is true and what follows is false
 
Anyone got good or bad things to say about this printer?

I read that if you use duplex printing the quality goes down and you have to
adjust to compensate, is true?

Regards and thanks in advance

Pat Macguire
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I have a 5200 and if the quality goes down it isn't noticeable, at least
not for my purposes. I occasionally need to print a two page form. I
just tell the printer to duplex it, saving paper, and more importantly,
making it easier for me to handle, use and file. The time that it takes
to do the automatic duplexing is probably not any longer than it would
take me stand up, retrieve the paper, make sure I am putting back in the
tray correctly, and notifying the system that it should print the second
side.

If I had a large volume to do I might handle it differently, but then
again, if I had a large volume to do I'd print one copy and do the rest
in a copier.

Bernie
 
Bernie said:
I have a 5200 and if the quality goes down it isn't noticeable,
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You are correct -- Tallyho
at least not for my purposes. I occasionally need to print a two page
form. I just tell the printer to duplex it, saving paper, and more
importantly, making it easier for me to handle, use and file.

Absolutely

The time that it takes to do the automatic duplexing is probably not
any longer than it would take me stand up, retrieve the paper, make
sure I am putting back in the tray correctly, and notifying the system
that it should print the second side.
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I find the same thing. A real convenience with no significant ly
meaningful loss of quality.
 
measekite said:
The above is true and what follows is false
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Once again you are not truthfull. You have NEVER refilled or used refilled
cartridges so should make accusations with NO prior experience.

The cartridges can be refilled easily and cheaply(WITH NO LOSS OF QUALITY),
the cd labelling is very useful and IT IS the highest selling inkjet printer
in europe
When you have something to say that is true and confirmable say it otherwise
keep you untrue accusations to your self.
 
Stick said:
Once again you are not truthfull. You have NEVER refilled or used refilled
cartridges so should make accusations with NO prior experience.

The cartridges can be refilled easily
nope

and cheaply
yep

(WITH NO LOSS OF QUALITY),
nope


the cd labelling is very useful and IT IS the highest selling inkjet printer
in europe
When you have something to say that is true and confirmable say it otherwise
keep you untrue accusations to your self.
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The duplex mode of the Pixma ip4200 saves a lot of paper. The
draft mode I find unusable: far too faint. Envelopes sometimes
get crushed.
Click to expand...

There are ways to duplex that don't use the printer driver's tendency to
duplex the other side in dye ink.

Duplexing on my iP5000 is okay, but I don't duplex often.
 
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