Canon LiDE vs. HP Scanjet see-thru

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Brian Shapiro

The scanner I've had for a few years has broke down, so I'm going to
need to buy something to replace it. I've had a Canon CanoScan N1220U,
which I bought because I needed a lightweight scanner which I could
carry around with my laptop to libraries and other places.

Eventually it started to break down, when I put heavy books on the
glass the scanner would sputter and not scan properly, and just
recently it became stuck in a sputtering mode and won't return back to
normal. I also had a problem where if the USB cable wasn't plugged in
well, horizontal colored lines would appear on the scan. The
sputtering problem may or may not be because I didn't take good care,
and things happened like a chair was accidentally put on it to make a
dent in the lid.

One of the scanners I'm considering buying is a Canon LiDE model,
there is the 25, 35, 50, and 80. I'd probably buy the high-end 80
model. All of these models, strangely, are thicker and weightier than
the N1220U. There's a Visioneer scanner about the same size as the
N1220U but I'm not sure I want to buy from them and it has lower specs
than similar HP or Canon scanners.

The top advantage of the Canon LiDE scanners is they gain their power
completely through the USB connection, which is useful to me as a
mobile user. I am worried that relying on the small power from USB
means the scanning will be slower though.

I'm also considering buying an HP Scanjet 4600 or 4670 see-thru
scanners, the only difference between the two I'm aware of is the 4670
can stand up vertically. An advantage of these scanners is that the
glass is placed over whats being scanned and the top is see through so
you can see whats being scanned. I've also read a review that the
4600/4670 is completely quiet while scanning, while the LiDEs make a
high pitched noise. This is important, because of where I plan to use
it most, libraries.

The HP scanner is thinner and lighter, but its also larger in width
and length.

I'm also wondering about the scan quality of each of these models. The
N1220U had good scan quality to me, though the colors on scanned
images didn't really match the actual pictures, but I've seen that on
all scanners I've used. I've read reviews on both the LiDE and
4600/4670 which say both have problems with quality, color and
graininess. The reviews gave better scores to the HP, but remember I
thought the Canon I owned was good enough quality.

I'm mainly going to use it to scan pictures from books or other
sources. The scans will not be for printing but for viewing on a
computer so don't need to be as large. I'd also want to know which is
more convenient to use with book scanning, including considerations
such as that some books need to be pressed down so the pages are flat.

The price between the two is not a concern to me.

If anyone can help...

Brian Shapiro
 
I'm mainly going to use it to scan pictures from books or other
sources. The scans will not be for printing but for viewing on a
computer so don't need to be as large. I'd also want to know which is
more convenient to use with book scanning, including considerations
such as that some books need to be pressed down so the pages are flat.

The price between the two is not a concern to me.

If anyone can help...

Brian Shapiro
I also own a Canon 1220U. You mention that you are scanning books
frequently. Unfortunatley the LIDEs are not ideal as they have a very
shallow depth of field, causing the user to press too hard, causing
distortion of the case and the "spluttering" you mention. I'm prepared
to put up with that for the convenience of the slim structure and low
power, which you also like. Mine still works fine BTW.

Bruce Graham
 
We have am HP 4600 scanner. USB connected.
This unit is very quiet and makes practically no noise. It has reasonably
good depth of field. I just scanned a magic marker ( the kind that is about
5/8" diameter) and found I could read all the text on the curved surface
very easily. In addition, I tried a CorelDraw manual and opened it to an
arbitrary page of glossy on the left side(with graphics) and a white page
with text on the right side. The books did not set flat just the weight of
the scanner on the book. The results were good and very readable and clear
when viewed in the image editing program PaintShopPro ver 8. If you are
interested in seeing a copy I will be glad to oblige.
I have found this scanner to give good results when scanning colored
pictures. I had a colored postcard (5-1/2" X 8-1/4") from my alma mater of a
campus building that I scanned to see how well it did. The colors were very
well reproduced with the usual noise associated from scanning a commercially
printed picture card. Even the defects in the printing ( yes, there were
some found by closely examining the original) were faithfully reproduced.
You can set the resolution that you wish to have in your final image. For my
tests above, I took the 200 ppi default along with the 256 color default.
The drawbacks for you might be the external power supply needed to power the
unit.
Also it takes more than a few seconds (warm-up time) each time you click on
the scan button, but once it starts scanning, it only takes about two to
four seconds to scan an 11" doc.
I also found that if I wished to preserve the color (when scanning in color
mode) of the document paper, I had to cover the see through window. This was
not necessary if I was scanning in two color mode.
Any more questions about the HP 4600m just ask.
Matt D


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I would avoid Canon scanners. My brand new Lide30 quit working, not because the
scanner is bad, but because of Canon's software. Once it quit working, the only
thing that was able to make the scanner work again is VueScan at
www.hamrick.com and VueScan runs the scanner better than Canon's own software
that came with the scanner. Canon's customer support has been horrible. After
doing some Google searching on Lide scanner troubles, I have discovered that
voluminous amounts of others are having problems with their Canon Lide series
scanners, mostly TWAIN errors. If it weren't for VueScan I would have taken the
Canon scanner out and thrown in into the trash. I like the small size and USB
power feature, but the problems it has given me aren't worth it. Also, the
Canon Lide series scanners are known to go slightly out of focus, as mine has
already done. I thought I just had bad luck but after doing some Google
searching on the subject I found that there are a lot of us.
 
Matthew how easy is it to scan books with the 4600, so that the pages are flat.

.... and is there anyone who has used both the Canon and HP scanners?

Brian
 
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