Canon IP4000 - query about high print quality setting

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Can anyone advise what the technical difference is between printing on
the high and standard settings. Recently when I print using the high
setting my blues are coming out more like violet but on the standard
setting the colours are ok. This is the same on diff types of paper.
I tried uninstalling & reinstalling the printer drivers without any
joy. Ink is Jettec & that brand has been fine in the past.

I've had the printer for nearly a year & now thinking of retiring it
to the kids PC & buying a 5200 if I cant resolve it.

Thanks for any help.
 
Can anyone advise what the technical difference is between printing on
the high and standard settings. Recently when I print using the high
setting my blues are coming out more like violet but on the standard
setting the colours are ok. This is the same on diff types of paper.
I tried uninstalling & reinstalling the printer drivers without any
joy. Ink is Jettec & that brand has been fine in the past.

I've had the printer for nearly a year & now thinking of retiring it
to the kids PC & buying a 5200 if I cant resolve it.

Thanks for any help.
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Could it be that it only uses the smaller nozzles and you have some of
these blocked? Standard using larger nozzles as well might mask the
problem.
 
High uses more ink and has very little effect on business documents and
is slower. However, on photos is uses more ink and improves the quality
of the photo.
I use OEM ink and do not have that problem.
You are not using Canon ink soi why do you complain.
Good choice but use OEM ink
 
It's normal for colors to shift on the high setting. You will find this on
all printers. How much it shifts depends on what you are printing and the
paper. It can range from simply darker hues to actual changes in hue.
 
It's normal for colors to shift on the high setting. You will find this on
all printers. How much it shifts depends on what you are printing and the
paper. It can range from simply darker hues to actual changes in hue.
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I've seen subtle shifts previously(when all was well) but now I'm
getting a garish lilac instead of blue on the high setting. I've done
lots of cleaning & I'm now using a fresh set(Jettec) of colour inks
with the same probs. Maybe I should try Canon inks again just to
make sure they're not the cause.

My Color Management is set with Windows selecting the best color
profile, is that correct or is a specific profile a better option.
 
Recently when I print using the high
setting my blues are coming out more like violet but on the standard
setting the colours are ok.
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First bit of advice... don't listen to measekite... his states that use
of non-OEM being the cause of your problem is not something he can
justify with any evidence. I will not say it's not possible... nor
should it be ruled out... only that his statements on the subject are
repeated many times a day.

As Dan G pointed out... color shift is normal. As I will point out...
the tank to the printhead connection is sealed with large rubber
gaskets... but the chambers are seperated by large angular pieces of
plastic so even if these are buggered the worst you'll possibly
experence are air bubbles. But there are gaskets and chambers that
connect the assembly that holds the takes to the printhead, and these
gaskets do degrade with age. Other users who have noticed bleeding
have resolved the issue with a deep clean, and only cases of much
gasket degrading have they resorted to the final solution of replacing
the printhead. I can not judge without seeing images from your print
to see if it's the case.

Also, canon's have a tendancy of being vivid... as in making cool
colors slightly more warm (blues with a slab of magenta) and warm
colors slightly more cool (red (magenta and yellow) with just a pinch
of cyan. Their claim that colors are vivid is the truth, they
certainly are vivid.

Best to compair what you get with another ip4000 user and see if they
are the same or similar. What you notice may be part of the design...
or could be a symptom of lousy gaskets. If you are within your
warranty period you might want to talk to canon about the subject, in
the US and UK they ship out replacement heads at the drop of a hat.
 
measekite said:
High uses more ink and has very little effect on business documents and
is slower. However, on photos is uses more ink and improves the quality
of the photo.

I use OEM ink and do not have that problem.

You are not using Canon ink soi why do you complain.

Good choice but use OEM ink
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Good grief man, will you give it a rest?
 
First bit of advice... don't listen to measekite... his states that use
of non-OEM being the cause of your problem is not something he can
justify with any evidence. I will not say it's not possible... nor
should it be ruled out... only that his statements on the subject are
repeated many times a day.

As Dan G pointed out... color shift is normal. As I will point out...
the tank to the printhead connection is sealed with large rubber
gaskets... but the chambers are seperated by large angular pieces of
plastic so even if these are buggered the worst you'll possibly
experence are air bubbles. But there are gaskets and chambers that
connect the assembly that holds the takes to the printhead, and these
gaskets do degrade with age. Other users who have noticed bleeding
have resolved the issue with a deep clean, and only cases of much
gasket degrading have they resorted to the final solution of replacing
the printhead. I can not judge without seeing images from your print
to see if it's the case.

Also, canon's have a tendancy of being vivid... as in making cool
colors slightly more warm (blues with a slab of magenta) and warm
colors slightly more cool (red (magenta and yellow) with just a pinch
of cyan. Their claim that colors are vivid is the truth, they
certainly are vivid.

Best to compair what you get with another ip4000 user and see if they
are the same or similar. What you notice may be part of the design...
or could be a symptom of lousy gaskets. If you are within your
warranty period you might want to talk to canon about the subject, in
the US and UK they ship out replacement heads at the drop of a hat.
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Thanks for your reply, v/interesting technical info! I've tried the
deep cleaning with no luck. I've scanned 2 prints side by side &
found a free hosting site, the colours have not been edited in any
way: http://www.filehigh.com/serve/10430/80511.jpg

I thought that if the ink was to blame then it would affect printouts
at any setting. I did have a good 8-9 months getting great quality
printouts on both high & standard settings & I'm comparing my
printouts now to the printouts then & something has altered.

I'll contact Canon UK to see if they'll help. If I have to buy a
printhead then I'll get the 5200 & let the kids use the 4000 to
replace their old Epson 750.

Out of interest can anyone confirm which inks are used to make a dark
shade of blue?
 
I vote for the ink being the problem. There was a shipment of Formulabs
magenta last summer that was way off, maybe you got some.
Your printhead is obviously fine, it has to be the ink.
 
Dan said:
I vote for the ink being the problem. There was a shipment of Formulabs
magenta last summer that was way off, maybe you got some.
Your printhead is obviously fine, it has to be the ink.
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Things like this have never been reported with Canon OEM ink.
 
The ink is bad. Just like the bad Formulabs magenta they made. And
people here claim they are the best. But many here do not know what
they are using because the Vendor Labeler will not tell them who made it.
That does not happen with my Ip4000 using OEM ink.
 
I've tried the deep cleaning with no luck. I've scanned 2 prints side by side &
found a free hosting site, the colours have not been edited in any
way: http://www.filehigh.com/serve/10430/80511.jpg
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To trully be fair... to trully be fair i'd need the actual image from
which you are printing. I'm running one mp760 on OEM ink and an
IP3000 on aftermarket.

Also... are you pinting onto CDs? If so which brand? Most media
except for TDK i've noticed requires an intensity of +10 or more... esp
fuji media.

As well as an actual image, post a nozzle check. The first time I saw
something similar to those images I ran out of cyan. In case you are
unaware the printhead in the canons have large nozzles.... and smaller
ones for fine quality. There are some excelent cleaning techniques on
nifty forums but keep in mind this is thermal technology... in the end
it's basicly the same technology that goes into making a lightbulb.

Dark blue... at least in color thoery... is cyan... magenta... and a
little black IIRC. Canon might be a little different... and might not
use the black to make dark blue as it tends not to use black unless the
intensity is 80% or higher... so it could be mixing cyan, more magenta,
and yellow.... where magenta and yellow make a spiffy intense red.
 
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