Canon i850 finally worn out??

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A friend's Canon i850 inkjet has started printing broad bands on all
printing, both documents and photos/graphics. The bands are like "stripes"
of lighter color, evenly spaced. We've tried all the utility fixes -
alignment, cleaning, etc - to no avail. Are the heads worn out?

jm
 
JM said:
A friend's Canon i850 inkjet has started printing broad bands on all
printing, both documents and photos/graphics. The bands are like "stripes"
of lighter color, evenly spaced. We've tried all the utility fixes -
alignment, cleaning, etc - to no avail. Are the heads worn out?

jm
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It's always a difficult question when it comes to the printhead.
I believe some very common problems mimic printhead failure.

Has he tried a different set of cartridges, especially if he's been
refilling. Cartridges are known to act up if overfilled, filled beyond
their life expectancy, poor quality ink, or poor air flow for one reason
or another.

If all else fails he can get a new printhead on eBay, they're $59.95.
Shipping cost is 1 cent for the US (+ tax for California). Just type
"i850 printhead" in the eBay search box.

-Taliesyn
 
Are the heads worn out?

Could be... or they could be blocked, or if he refills the foam could
be mucky.

niftyfourms http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=316

Replacing the cartridges may resolve the problem

There is a faq in there on the subject of using toilet paper, windex,
and a pushing technique to clean the head. But they do have a limited
life.

As Taliesyn said a new head will run $60 ish. And IP3000 which if I
recall correctly takes the same head will run $60 to $100 on ebay or
somewhere if you are lucky enough to find one. New with warranty looks
like $100ish, about the same as the ip4000. IP4000 IIRC doesn't and
offers an extra black. The new ip4200/ip5200 will run $120 to $150ish
so double the cost of the head, and only 5pl and 1pl nozzles, not 5pl
and 2pl like the i850.
 
Taliesyn said:
It's always a difficult question when it comes to the printhead.
I believe some very common problems mimic printhead failure.

Has he tried a different set of cartridges, especially if he's been
refilling.
ESPECIALLY

Cartridges are known to act up if overfilled,
YEP

filled beyond
their life expectancy, poor quality ink,
ABSOLUTELY

or poor air flow for one reason
or another.
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ONE HEADACHE AFTER ANOTHER
If all else fails he can get a new printhead on eBay, they're $59.95.
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YOU CAN BUY A NEW PRINTER FOR THAT MUCH OR LESS AND YOU HAVE A NEW SET
OF CANON CARTS AND A NEW PRINTHEAD PLUS A BUNCH OF PRINTER PARTS. THE
ADVICE YOU ARE GETTING IS VERY VERY VERY VERY POOR
 
JM said:
A friend's Canon i850 inkjet has started printing broad bands on all
printing, both documents and photos/graphics. The bands are like "stripes"
of lighter color, evenly spaced. We've tried all the utility fixes -
alignment, cleaning, etc - to no avail. Are the heads worn out?

jm
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I just had the same problem, same printer. Try the nozzle check
and you will probably find a bank of nozzles not working. I am
going to replace with a IP4200 and use my BCI3 ink to refill.
Office Max has it for $130 with $30 rebate, $20 gift card plus
a $10 off on a $50 purchace for a final price of $70 which
ia about the cost of a printhead or a set of ink cartridges.
 
A friend's Canon i850 inkjet has started printing broad bands on all
printing, both documents and photos/graphics. The bands are like "stripes"
of lighter color, evenly spaced. We've tried all the utility fixes -
alignment, cleaning, etc - to no avail. Are the heads worn out?

jm
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Could be bad heads or a bad tank. Before I bought ink from A Lot of
Things I would frequently get banding owing to plugging of the head.
I'd remove the tanks, flip the lever and remove the printhead. I'd
flush the printhead with deionized water -- sometimes letting it soak
overnight. This usually fixed the problem even when "deep cleaning"
didn't.
 
Measkite said: <you can buy a new printer for $59.95>
<Paraphrasing mine>

Please quote one website that offers a ip3000, ip4000, or ip4200 for
less than $59.95. I "could" have gotten one in July for less with
rebate, but this was a close out special. They are back to the
$80-$100 range, or $100 to $120 for a new model.

Now I agree given that the ink is worth $50 to $60 depending on whether
you get an ip3000 or something better, a new printer offers pretty good
value... but the i850 is totally onpar with the ip3000... and even
share the same head. I'll even agree this is really worth looking at,
but the advice here is sound... see if you can fix what you got and
spend squat... then choose to spend $60 or more for a new printer.

You see, these are what we call options... it's not up to you to decide
what is best for someone.... you can only advice them what you would
do. You are not even offering advice but are demanding that your way
is the only way.

The head's value is roughly 50% to 66% the value of the printer in the
base model range. Worth looking at a new one... but it wouldn't be
foolish considering a part when it does indeed cost less... unless you
can show me where you can buy a new printer, an i860,
ip3000,ip4000,ip4200 for less than $59.95.
 
measekite said:
ONE HEADACHE AFTER ANOTHER



YOU CAN BUY A NEW PRINTER FOR THAT MUCH OR LESS AND YOU HAVE A NEW SET
OF CANON CARTS AND A NEW PRINTHEAD PLUS A BUNCH OF PRINTER PARTS. THE
ADVICE YOU ARE GETTING IS VERY VERY VERY VERY POOR
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Your posts will be easier to read you loose the caps.
 
I'll pass that on to my friend. Please email a price to
jake72401#$%^@lycos.com removing the characters between 1 and @.

thanks,

jm
 
zakezuke said:
Could be... or they could be blocked, or if he refills the foam could
be mucky.

niftyfourms http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=316

Replacing the cartridges may resolve the problem

There is a faq in there on the subject of using toilet paper, windex,
and a pushing technique to clean the head. But they do have a limited
life.

As Taliesyn said a new head will run $60 ish. And IP3000 which if I
recall correctly takes the same head will run $60 to $100 on ebay or
somewhere if you are lucky enough to find one. New with warranty looks
like $100ish, about the same as the ip4000. IP4000 IIRC doesn't and
offers an extra black. The new ip4200/ip5200 will run $120 to $150ish
so double the cost of the head, and only 5pl and 1pl nozzles, not 5pl
and 2pl like the i850.
Click to expand...

Biggest problem I see with most newer printers is that they do NOT offer
parallel connections--most use USB (not sure about the IP3000).
Frankly, I've read of too many problems trying to use printers via USB
connection, especially if you work with older operating systems, such as
Windows 98. Of course, if you work exclusively in XP, USB is OK.
 
Biggest problem I see with most newer printers is that they do NOT offer
parallel connections--most use USB (not sure about the IP3000).
Click to expand...

My ip3000 is USB only.

At least with USB printers they do make ethernet and wifi print
servers. While USB wasn't supported very well in older versions of
MS-windows network printers were supported even in the early days of
DOS. Not a perfect solution, but it is a solution.
 
OH MY GOD HE IS FOAMING AT THE PRINTER
HALLEULA


Biggest problem I see with most newer printers is that they do NOT
offer parallel connections--most use USB (not sure about the IP3000).
Frankly, I've read of too many problems trying to use printers via USB
connection, especially if you work with older operating systems, such
as Windows 98. Of course, if you work exclusively in XP, USB is OK.
Click to expand...
 
Biggest problem I see with most newer printers is that they do NOT offer
parallel connections--most use USB (not sure about the IP3000).
Frankly, I've read of too many problems trying to use printers via USB
connection, especially if you work with older operating systems, such as
Windows 98. Of course, if you work exclusively in XP, USB is OK.
Click to expand...

I don't see this a problem per-se, just an indication that users should
keep up with the times, if they want the best things.
 
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