Cannot turn off indent!!!

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When adding text boxes to any of my presentations, the default formatting
appears to be a hanging indent. However, when I access the ruler or the text
box formatting, there is nothing I can do to turn this off. Selecting
bullets will line up the text, but I do not want bullets, and this issue is
making it impossible to accurately display important text. PLEASE HELP
 
If you do not want bullets in the entire presentation, I'd suggest changing
the master slide. On the Master slide you can turn off the bullets and
change the ruler settings to reflect what you need from the placeholders on
each of your newly inserted slides.


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This did not work. I have the same problem and I need to have bullets on the
first slide, but not on most slides. the text in a table has the first line
aligned to the left and all other lines after that are indented about 4 or 5
characters. Changing the ruler does not fix this. VERY FRUSTRATING!
 
Are you working with textboxes or tables or placeholders (where it says
"click to add text")? I can't quite tell from your post which it is you're
working with.

If you'll be more specific about your problem, we may be able to help you
find a solution.
 
I am not working with placeholders. This happens in a cell that I am typing
text, within a new table.

Also, if I copy and paste a slide, and then go and get text from another
document, then paste it in that existing text box of the new slide, sometimes
the textbox will not keep the previous formatting that the old text had. To
fix it, sometimes I have to insert a new text box and then paste the text in,
then reformat that text box... but that is very time consuming.

Echo S said:
Are you working with textboxes or tables or placeholders (where it says
"click to add text")? I can't quite tell from your post which it is you're
working with.

If you'll be more specific about your problem, we may be able to help you
find a solution.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


ibyung2 said:
This did not work. I have the same problem and I need to have bullets on the
first slide, but not on most slides. the text in a table has the first line
aligned to the left and all other lines after that are indented about 4 or 5
characters. Changing the ruler does not fix this. VERY FRUSTRATING!
Click to expand...
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ibyung2 said:
I am not working with placeholders. This happens in a cell that I am
typing text, within a new table.
Click to expand...

So when you type in a table cell, the first line of the text doesn't indent,
but lines below it do? In other words, you have a hanging indent that you'd
like to get rid of?

Clicking in the table cell and dragging the indent marker (the top one on
the bottom part of the ruler, to be exact) should resolve it. I'm not sure
if you tried that or not, because the original post here was talking about
changing the indents in the placeholder on the slide master, not in a table
cell.

That said, I can't seem to force a table here to default to a bad indent. If
I add a bullet point to the text in the table, PPT does pick up the bullet
point I used in the placeholder on this master slide, but it doesn't seem to
pick up the indent settings. This is in PPT 2003. What version of PPT are
you using? This isn't a table that's been inserted or copy/pasted from Word,
is it?
Also, if I copy and paste a slide, and then go and get text from
another document, then paste it in that existing text box of the new
slide, sometimes the textbox will not keep the previous formatting
that the old text had. To fix it, sometimes I have to insert a new
text box and then paste the text in, then reformat that text box...
but that is very time consuming.
Click to expand...

Which version of PPT are you using? PPT 2002 and 2003 have a paste option to
"keep text only" or "keep source formatting" or "use design template
formatting."

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Echo S said:
Are you working with textboxes or tables or placeholders (where it
says "click to add text")? I can't quite tell from your post which
it is you're working with.

If you'll be more specific about your problem, we may be able to
help you find a solution.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


ibyung2 said:
This did not work. I have the same problem and I need to have
bullets on the first slide, but not on most slides. the text in a
table has the first line aligned to the left and all other lines
after that are indented about 4 or 5 characters. Changing the
ruler does not fix this. VERY FRUSTRATING!

:

If you do not want bullets in the entire presentation, I'd suggest
changing the master slide. On the Master slide you can turn off
the bullets and change the ruler settings to reflect what you need
from the placeholders on each of your newly inserted slides.


--
Bill Dilworth
A proud member of the Microsoft PPT MVP Team
Users helping fellow users.
http://billdilworth.mvps.org
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
yahoo2@ Please read the PowerPoint
yahoo. FAQ pages. They answer most
com of our questions.
www.pptfaq.com
..
..



message When adding text boxes to any of my presentations, the default
formatting appears to be a hanging indent. However, when I
access the ruler or the text
box formatting, there is nothing I can do to turn this off.
Selecting bullets will line up the text, but I do not want
bullets, and this issue is
making it impossible to accurately display important text.
PLEASE HELP
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I am having the same problem within a text box. What I've been forced to do
is to create a new text box for the parts of the text that are not bullet
points, because if I move the indent marker, it changes the indents for all
the bullets. This is a pain. I'm just glad to see that I'm not the only
person in the universe who is having this problem.

Echo S said:
ibyung2 said:
I am not working with placeholders. This happens in a cell that I am
typing text, within a new table.
Click to expand...

So when you type in a table cell, the first line of the text doesn't indent,
but lines below it do? In other words, you have a hanging indent that you'd
like to get rid of?

Clicking in the table cell and dragging the indent marker (the top one on
the bottom part of the ruler, to be exact) should resolve it. I'm not sure
if you tried that or not, because the original post here was talking about
changing the indents in the placeholder on the slide master, not in a table
cell.

That said, I can't seem to force a table here to default to a bad indent. If
I add a bullet point to the text in the table, PPT does pick up the bullet
point I used in the placeholder on this master slide, but it doesn't seem to
pick up the indent settings. This is in PPT 2003. What version of PPT are
you using? This isn't a table that's been inserted or copy/pasted from Word,
is it?
Also, if I copy and paste a slide, and then go and get text from
another document, then paste it in that existing text box of the new
slide, sometimes the textbox will not keep the previous formatting
that the old text had. To fix it, sometimes I have to insert a new
text box and then paste the text in, then reformat that text box...
but that is very time consuming.
Click to expand...

Which version of PPT are you using? PPT 2002 and 2003 have a paste option to
"keep text only" or "keep source formatting" or "use design template
formatting."

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Echo S said:
Are you working with textboxes or tables or placeholders (where it
says "click to add text")? I can't quite tell from your post which
it is you're working with.

If you'll be more specific about your problem, we may be able to
help you find a solution.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


This did not work. I have the same problem and I need to have
bullets on the first slide, but not on most slides. the text in a
table has the first line aligned to the left and all other lines
after that are indented about 4 or 5 characters. Changing the
ruler does not fix this. VERY FRUSTRATING!

:

If you do not want bullets in the entire presentation, I'd suggest
changing the master slide. On the Master slide you can turn off
the bullets and change the ruler settings to reflect what you need
from the placeholders on each of your newly inserted slides.


--
Bill Dilworth
A proud member of the Microsoft PPT MVP Team
Users helping fellow users.
http://billdilworth.mvps.org
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
yahoo2@ Please read the PowerPoint
yahoo. FAQ pages. They answer most
com of our questions.
www.pptfaq.com
..
..



message When adding text boxes to any of my presentations, the default
formatting appears to be a hanging indent. However, when I
access the ruler or the text
box formatting, there is nothing I can do to turn this off.
Selecting bullets will line up the text, but I do not want
bullets, and this issue is
making it impossible to accurately display important text.
PLEASE HELP
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
You know, all these questions piling on the same thread might actually be
different issues. We've got one person talking about a placeholder, another
talking about a table cell, and a third talking about a (manual, I assume)
textbox. While they may all be related, they may also not be the same,
either.

In your case, use the "increase indent" button on the toolbar to "demote"
your second-level bullets. Then you'll see two sets of indent caret markers
on the ruler, and you can adjust each. Hold down the CTRL button while you
drag the markers to give yourself more control.
 
OK, let me simplify. I have no bullets or numbers in my Power Point slide
show. I am copying and pasting text from another document. Sometimes if I
paste the text into a text box, the indent caret markers work sometimes, and
they do not work other times.

I have made a 25k test doc showing this problem. One text box in the slide
works correctly , the other does not. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS! If anyone
wants the test doc to see the problem, please email me at (e-mail address removed).

Any new ideas?

Echo S said:
You know, all these questions piling on the same thread might actually be
different issues. We've got one person talking about a placeholder, another
talking about a table cell, and a third talking about a (manual, I assume)
textbox. While they may all be related, they may also not be the same,
either.

In your case, use the "increase indent" button on the toolbar to "demote"
your second-level bullets. Then you'll see two sets of indent caret markers
on the ruler, and you can adjust each. Hold down the CTRL button while you
drag the markers to give yourself more control.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


I am having the same problem within a text box. What I've been forced
to do is to create a new text box for the parts of the text that are
not bullet points, because if I move the indent marker, it changes
the indents for all the bullets. This is a pain. I'm just glad to see
that I'm not the only person in the universe who is having this
problem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I think it depends on the formatting of the original text.

I do have another idea, though. Double-click the textbox and go to the Text
tab in the Format Textbox dialog. What is the text anchor point set to? If
it's one of the "centered" options, you may have difficulty getting the text
to align flush left.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
OK, let me simplify. I have no bullets or numbers in my Power Point
slide show. I am copying and pasting text from another document.
Sometimes if I paste the text into a text box, the indent caret
markers work sometimes, and they do not work other times.

I have made a 25k test doc showing this problem. One text box in the
slide works correctly , the other does not. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND
THIS! If anyone wants the test doc to see the problem, please email
me at (e-mail address removed).

Any new ideas?

Echo S said:
You know, all these questions piling on the same thread might
actually be different issues. We've got one person talking about a
placeholder, another talking about a table cell, and a third talking
about a (manual, I assume) textbox. While they may all be related,
they may also not be the same, either.

In your case, use the "increase indent" button on the toolbar to
"demote" your second-level bullets. Then you'll see two sets of
indent caret markers on the ruler, and you can adjust each. Hold
down the CTRL button while you drag the markers to give yourself
more control.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


I am having the same problem within a text box. What I've been
forced to do is to create a new text box for the parts of the text
that are not bullet points, because if I move the indent marker, it
changes the indents for all the bullets. This is a pain. I'm just
glad to see that I'm not the only person in the universe who is
having this problem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
OK, let me simplify. I have no bullets or numbers in my Power Point slide
show. I am copying and pasting text from another document. Sometimes if I
paste the text into a text box, the indent caret markers work sometimes, and
they do not work other times.
Click to expand...

Suggestion:

Download and install the PPTools Starter Set ( http://starterset.pptools.com )
It's free.

It includes a "what am I" button (a piggie icon for reasons that ... that ...
ummm ... I have no idea why it's a piggie icon. it is. we'll just have to
cope.)

When you select one of your text boxes then click the pig, it'll tell you what
type of shape PPT thinks you're working with.

I'm guessing that in some cases it's a placeholder shape and in others a text
box.

Try it and let us know.

I have made a 25k test doc showing this problem. One text box in the slide
works correctly , the other does not. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS! If anyone
wants the test doc to see the problem, please email me at (e-mail address removed).

Any new ideas?

Echo S said:
You know, all these questions piling on the same thread might actually be
different issues. We've got one person talking about a placeholder, another
talking about a table cell, and a third talking about a (manual, I assume)
textbox. While they may all be related, they may also not be the same,
either.

In your case, use the "increase indent" button on the toolbar to "demote"
your second-level bullets. Then you'll see two sets of indent caret markers
on the ruler, and you can adjust each. Hold down the CTRL button while you
drag the markers to give yourself more control.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com


I am having the same problem within a text box. What I've been forced
to do is to create a new text box for the parts of the text that are
not bullet points, because if I move the indent marker, it changes
the indents for all the bullets. This is a pain. I'm just glad to see
that I'm not the only person in the universe who is having this
problem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
OK, I've just worked out the fix here.

The problem is when pasting new text into a ppt text box, the indent feature fails to operate for that new text block. The ruler does not function properly to move that block of text, and it remains clinging to the left hand margin - very very annoying. This is a bug.

The way to fix it is to copy a correctly functioning (indenting is working correctly) block of text AT THE TOP of the offending text box. This should retain its proper indenting functionality. Then delete the paragraph returns so that your "bad" text joins to the properly indenting "good text". The bad text will take on the indenting characteristics of the good text block, so then just hit return to create a new (and properly functioning) bullet point.

I imagine the issue is that there is a small metatextual coding at the header of a non functioning text block that essentially reads "do not make the below text subject to the indenting tool". You don't have the option to see this coding in ppt, as you might if using Word. But you have to delete it, and the only way to delete it is to put a properly functioning block of text above it, and delete the paragraph returns between non-functioning text below it, so that the offending metatext is also deleted.

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