Cannot migrate from W98 to XP Pro.

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Reggie D.

When XP Pro checks system compatability get message:
W.XP Pro. stup does not support upgrade from W 98 tp XP Pro. Setup cannot
continue.
How do I proceed please.

Here are some Belarc advisor details of my system:

Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C692BX
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
733 megahertz Intel Pentium III
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: 693-686
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 4.51 PG 03/24/00
Drives Memory Modules c,d
32.54 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
30.65 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-104 [CD-ROM drive]
WPI CDRW-4424 [CD-ROM drive]
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

Maxtor 5 4098U8 [Hard drive] (32.54 GB) -- drive 0, rev DA62 384
Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 128 MB
Slot '1' has 128 MB
Slot '2' has 128 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (FAT32 on drive 0)32.54 GB30.65 GB free
 
Reggie D. said:
When XP Pro checks system compatability get message:
W.XP Pro. stup does not support upgrade from W 98 tp XP Pro. Setup cannot
continue.
How do I proceed please.

Here are some Belarc advisor details of my system:

Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C692BX
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
733 megahertz Intel Pentium III
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: 693-686
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 4.51 PG 03/24/00
Drives Memory Modules c,d
32.54 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
30.65 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-104 [CD-ROM drive]
WPI CDRW-4424 [CD-ROM drive]
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

Maxtor 5 4098U8 [Hard drive] (32.54 GB) -- drive 0, rev DA62 384
Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 128 MB
Slot '1' has 128 MB
Slot '2' has 128 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (FAT32 on drive 0)32.54 GB30.65 GB free
Click to expand...


My advice is to *not* attempt to upgrade Win98 to XP, it is a recipient for
disaster.
Even though, in theory, Win98 is upgradable to XP...there are too many
reasons why it's not a good idea
for me to list them all.

Though a properly prepped Win98 installation very well may be upgraded
without a problem,
it's generally difficult or impossible to return a mature Win98 installation
to a pristine state.


My suggestion would be install XP on a second partition , then dual boot.
Your chances of getting a good installation is pretty much a sure thing
(assuming no hardware problems).

You will of course have to reinstall your applications...
but it will be a better installation and in the long term...
probably faster than an attempt to properly prep your Win98 installation.

Plus, by dual booting
you will still have your Win98 installation to use as you continue to
migrate
your applications to XP.
Additionally you will still have your Win98 to use in the event that some of
your applications or hardware
are not compatible with XP. (Though that is not too likely.)


Now, to install XP on a second partition you will need to use a third party
utility
such as Partition Magic (or a free alternative) and non-destructively
repartition your drive.
*But only after you have backed up all your data.*

Or else...just put a second harddrive in the machine
and install XP there. (Pay attention to the installer)
Win98 and XP will dual boot by default.


FWIW: I have been an authorized Microsoft refurbisher for many years
and have *never* seen a Win98 ===> XP upgrade work properly for a mature
Win98 installation...
OTOH: I have *never* seen a fresh install of XP fail. Worst case: a few
drivers will need to be hunted down and installed.


Finally...if you decide not to take my advice and absolutely insist on
forcing an XP upgrade upon a Win98 installation,
I'll leave the exercise of prepping Win98 to others.
I am sure someone will address that shortly. <G>
 
Reggie D. said:
When XP Pro checks system compatability get message:
W.XP Pro. stup does not support upgrade from W 98 tp XP Pro. Setup cannot
continue.
How do I proceed please.

Here are some Belarc advisor details of my system:

Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C692BX
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
733 megahertz Intel Pentium III
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: 693-686
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 4.51 PG 03/24/00
Drives Memory Modules c,d
32.54 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
30.65 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-104 [CD-ROM drive]
WPI CDRW-4424 [CD-ROM drive]
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

Maxtor 5 4098U8 [Hard drive] (32.54 GB) -- drive 0, rev DA62
384
Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 128 MB
Slot '1' has 128 MB
Slot '2' has 128 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (FAT32 on drive 0)32.54 GB30.65 GB free
Click to expand...


If you have the OEM version of XP Pro, I think that it will only allow for a
clean install..


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Reggie said:
When XP Pro checks system compatability get message:
W.XP Pro. stup does not support upgrade from W 98 tp XP Pro. Setup cannot
continue.
Click to expand...

Are you trying to use an OEM installation CD? OEM CDs *cannot* perform
in-place upgrades; they are specifically designed only to be installed
upon clean partitions.

Additionally, if the WinXP upgrade advisor says the computer's
components aren't capable of supporting WinXP, you can't.

Before starting, have you verified that all of your PC's hardware
components are capable of supporting WinXP? This information will be
found at the PC's manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows
Catalog: (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx)

You should also take a few minutes to ensure that there are
WinXP-specific device drivers available for all of the machine's
internal components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically
designed for Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold
and run fine with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more
stringent hardware quality requirements. This is particularly true of
many early models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or
HP's consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K
before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or substandard
hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives) that will
still support Win9x.

HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
How do I proceed please.

Here are some Belarc advisor details of my system:

Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C692BX
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
733 megahertz Intel Pentium III
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: 693-686
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 4.51 PG 03/24/00
Drives Memory Modules c,d
32.54 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
30.65 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-104 [CD-ROM drive]
WPI CDRW-4424 [CD-ROM drive]
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

Maxtor 5 4098U8 [Hard drive] (32.54 GB) -- drive 0, rev DA62 384
Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 128 MB
Slot '1' has 128 MB
Slot '2' has 128 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (FAT32 on drive 0)32.54 GB30.65 GB free
Click to expand...


I'm afraid, given those specifications, that the the word "glacial"
comes to mind, and you'll want to upgrade to at least 512Mb of Ram and
probably a larger hard drive if you're planning on installing many
applications. The CPU will be the bottle-neck, I'm afraid. Frankly, I
wouldn't put any OS more demanding then Win2K on that old a platform;
you may also have problems finding WinXP-compatible device drivers for
the computer's components.

Acceptable performance is, of course, a matter of personal opinion
and depends entirely upon what *you* expect to do with your computer. If
all you want to do is play WinXP's built-in games, send and receive
simple emails, browse the Internet (while avoiding the more "ornamental"
web sites) etc., such a machine may well meet your needs. If, however,
you plan to take advantage of WinXP's multimedia capabilities, play
graphic-intensive games, or do advanced word or data processing, such a
machine would probably be woefully inadequate.


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philo said:
My advice is to *not* attempt to upgrade Win98 to XP, it is a recipient for
disaster.
Even though, in theory, Win98 is upgradable to XP...there are too many
reasons why it's not a good idea
for me to list them all.
Click to expand...


That's not at all true.

A properly prepared and maintained PC can almost always be
successfully upgraded by a knowledgeable and competent individual. I've
lost count of the systems I've seen that have been upgraded from Win95
to Win98 to Win2K to WinXP (usually with incremental hardware upgrades
over the same time period), without the need for a clean installation,
and that are still operating without any problems attributable to upgrades.

Granted, some people will blindly recommend that one always perform
a clean installation, rather than upgrade over an earlier OS. For the
most part, I feel that these people, while usually well-meaning, are
living in the past, and are either basing their recommendation on their
experiences with older operating systems, or are simply inexperienced
and uninformed.

Granted, there are times when an in-place upgrade is contra-indicated:

1) When the underlying hardware isn't certified as being fully
compatible with the newer OS, and/or updated device drivers are not
available from the device's manufacturer. Of course, this condition also
causes problems with clean installations.

2) When the original OS is corrupt, damaged, and/or virus/malware
infested. I've also seen simple, straight-forward upgrades from WinXP
Home to WinXP Pro fail because the computer owner had let the system
become malware-infested. Upgrading over a problematic OS isn't normally
a wise course to establishing a stable installation.

3) When the new OS isn't designed to properly, correctly, and safely
perform an upgrade.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Bruce Chambers said:
That's not at all true.
Click to expand...

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As I've said...I am a Microsoft authorized refurbisher and do this stuff on
an almost daily basis...
and I clearly stated that a properly prepped Win98 installation can probably
be upgraded ok.
Main problem being, there is virtually no such thing as a mature Win98
installation in pristine condition...
so it's always some type of gamble.

It can be difficult and time consuming to *properly* prep a Win98 machine
and is typically just faster to cleanly install XP.

There is essentially a 100% chance of getting a good XP installation
on a clean install.(Assuming non-defective H/W of course.)

The biggest problems I've seen with upgrades are not on those that have
failed. The results are obvious.
The real problems are those that "apparently" succeed but are plagued by
subtle problems that will multiply with time.
Only one thoroughly familiar with how XP is supposed to work is likely to
catch the problems immediately...
and there lies the danger.

Anyone who is likely to ask questions here is *probably* not an expert...
and I feel it irresponsible to encourage an upgrade and gamble with the
results.

In my book, a clean installation of XP is essentially not gambling.


Anyway , my intent here is not to argue...
it's simply to give anyone who may read this thread enough knowledge to make
a decision
that is sensible for their needs.
 
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