Cannot connect a Vista/Vista Combo

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Justin

Hi,
I have two PC's running Vista Home Premium. Both have SP1, and both have
sharing and printer sharing installed. I can access the wife's pc from mine,
but I cannot access mine from her's. If I type in my pc name
"\\jdesktop\users\" it will pop up, but if I physically try and click on my
computer's name in the network window it says \\jdesktop is not accessible.

I am trying to share a printer. It is on my PC, and I have tried
everything. Both pc's have passwords, both are in the Jspafford workgroup.

Help!
 
Justin said:
Hi,
I have two PC's running Vista Home Premium. Both have SP1, and both have
sharing and printer sharing installed. I can access the wife's pc from
mine,
but I cannot access mine from her's. If I type in my pc name
"\\jdesktop\users\" it will pop up, but if I physically try and click on
my computer's name in the network window it says \\jdesktop is not
accessible.

I am trying to share a printer. It is on my PC, and I have tried
everything. Both pc's have passwords, both are in the Jspafford
workgroup.
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Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this.

Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
UAC

To turn on - Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password
to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by
clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the
correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted.
Leave it blank if there is no password (null).

Malke
 
Malke said:
Justin said:
Hi,
I have two PC's running Vista Home Premium. Both have SP1, and both have
sharing and printer sharing installed. I can access the wife's pc from
mine,
but I cannot access mine from her's. If I type in my pc name
"\\jdesktop\users\" it will pop up, but if I physically try and click on
my computer's name in the network window it says \\jdesktop is not
accessible.

I am trying to share a printer. It is on my PC, and I have tried
everything. Both pc's have passwords, both are in the Jspafford
workgroup.
Click to expand...

Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this.

Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
UAC

To turn on - Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password
to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by
clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the
correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted.
Leave it blank if there is no password (null).

Malke
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Thank you. When you say make a user account and use the same passwords, do
you mean create a new user account on both PC's and then set them BOTH to the
same password. We can then continue to use our old accounts, but as long as
there is the same User Account on both machines it will work?

Your not talking about user accounts in the persmissions are you?
 
Hi,
I have two PC's running Vista Home Premium. Both have SP1, and both have
sharing and printer sharing installed. I can access the wife's pc from mine,
but I cannot access mine from her's. If I type in my pc name
"\\jdesktop\users\" it will pop up, but if I physically try and click on my
computer's name in the network window it says \\jdesktop is not accessible.

I am trying to share a printer. It is on my PC, and I have tried
everything. Both pc's have passwords, both are in the Jspafford workgroup.

Help!
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Justin,

What's the Network Location Type for each computer?

http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html

If that doesn't help, look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, so we can diagnose
the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
 
Justin said:
Thank you. When you say make a user account and use the same passwords,
do
you mean create a new user account on both PC's and then set them BOTH to
the
same password. We can then continue to use our old accounts, but as long
as
there is the same User Account on both machines it will work?
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Yes that's correct.
 
I'll try making a new user on both PC's. If this does not work I will post
up the info you requested Chuck.

Thanks
 
Justin said:
Thank you. When you say make a user account and use the same passwords,
do you mean create a new user account on both PC's and then set them BOTH
to the
same password. We can then continue to use our old accounts, but as long
as there is the same User Account on both machines it will work?

Your not talking about user accounts in the persmissions are you?
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Here's an illustration of what I mean:

Your computer - have user accounts on there for:

You w/whatever password you like
Your wife w/whatever password she's using on her computer

Her computer - have user accounts on there for:

Your wife w/whatever password she likes
You w/whatever password you're using on your computer.

Your wife and you don't need to use identical passwords; the user accounts
and associated passwords just need to match on both computers.

No, I'm not talking about user accounts permissions.

The reason for the matching accounts/passwords is that authentication in a
Workgroup (as opposed to a domain) is done on the *local* computer. So when
your wife from her machine tries to access a shared resource on your
machine, your machine in effect says "who are you?". If it recognizes her
because her user account/password match the one it has, she's a known and
authenticated user and is therefore allowed to access the shared resource.

Hope that made it clearer.

Malke
 
Let me make sure I have this right.

She and I both have one account on our PC. When we power up, we both login
with a password. The guest account is disabled.

What I need to do is make a second user account on BOTH PC's and name them
whatever I want, but make sure the password on her pc's new account is the
password I log into my PC with? And I would make the new account on my PC
use the same password as the one she logs in with?

Hope that is it.. How confusing for microsoft to do.
 
Justin said:
Let me make sure I have this right.

She and I both have one account on our PC. When we power up, we both
login
with a password. The guest account is disabled.

What I need to do is make a second user account on BOTH PC's and name them
whatever I want, but make sure the password on her pc's new account is the
password I log into my PC with? And I would make the new account on my PC
use the same password as the one she logs in with?
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No, you still haven't quite got it. And this is standard networking
behavior, not something Windows-centric.

Illustration to try and make things clear to you:

1. Your computer has one user account, Justin w/password 1234

2. Your wife's computer has one user account, SheWhoMustBeObeyed, password
5678

3. On your computer, create a new user account called SheWhoMustBeObeyed
with password 5678.

4. On your wife's computer, create a new user account called Justin
w/password 1234.

5. You log into your computer with the Justin 1234 account as always.

6. Your wife logs into her computer with the SheWhoMustBeObeyed 5678 account
as always.

7. When either party tries to access a shared resource on the other's
computer, access will be granted seamlessly.

Malke
 
Malke said:
No, you still haven't quite got it. And this is standard networking
behavior, not something Windows-centric.

Illustration to try and make things clear to you:

1. Your computer has one user account, Justin w/password 1234

2. Your wife's computer has one user account, SheWhoMustBeObeyed, password
5678

3. On your computer, create a new user account called SheWhoMustBeObeyed
with password 5678.

4. On your wife's computer, create a new user account called Justin
w/password 1234.

5. You log into your computer with the Justin 1234 account as always.

6. Your wife logs into her computer with the SheWhoMustBeObeyed 5678
account
as always.

7. When either party tries to access a shared resource on the other's
computer, access will be granted seamlessly.
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A very succinct explanation! May I save it for future use? (With suitable
attribution of course.....)
 
Gordon said:
A very succinct explanation! May I save it for future use? (With suitable
attribution of course.....)
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Flatterer. But of course you can use it.

"It does not matter who wins, it matters who helps." -- MVP Alex Nichol

Malke
 
This sounds like the problem I'm having with my sons PC with Vista
installed, I have XP, the printer is connected to my PC, he cannot print.
gets a "permission denied" or something like that, our Techie at work said
something about matching user accounts and passwords and this explains it.
Is this the proper procedure for XP/Vista sharing as well?

Justin said:
Hi,
I have two PC's running Vista Home Premium. Both have SP1, and both have
sharing and printer sharing installed. I can access the wife's pc from
mine,
but I cannot access mine from her's. If I type in my pc name
"\\jdesktop\users\" it will pop up, but if I physically try and click on
my computer's name in the network window it says \\jdesktop is not
accessible.

I am trying to share a printer. It is on my PC, and I have tried
everything. Both pc's have passwords, both are in the Jspafford
workgroup.
Click to expand...

Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this.

Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
UAC

To turn on - Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password
to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by
clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the
correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted.
Leave it blank if there is no password (null).

Malke
 
Good chance that's it. Set up the same users with the same passwords on
both machines and don't have any users with blank passwords.
This sounds like the problem I'm having with my sons PC with Vista
installed, I have XP, the printer is connected to my PC, he cannot print.
gets a "permission denied" or something like that, our Techie at work said
something about matching user accounts and passwords and this explains it.
Is this the proper procedure for XP/Vista sharing as well?

Justin said:
Hi,
I have two PC's running Vista Home Premium. Both have SP1, and both have
sharing and printer sharing installed. I can access the wife's pc from
mine,
but I cannot access mine from her's. If I type in my pc name
"\\jdesktop\users\" it will pop up, but if I physically try and click on
my computer's name in the network window it says \\jdesktop is not
accessible.

I am trying to share a printer. It is on my PC, and I have tried
everything. Both pc's have passwords, both are in the Jspafford
workgroup.
Click to expand...

Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need
to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this.

Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
UAC

To turn on - Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password
to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by
clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the
correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted.
Leave it blank if there is no password (null).

Malke
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