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dwpeoplepc
I refilled my Cannon Pixma Ip1600 ink cartridge but I cannot find a way
to to reset the ink counter.
Any suggestions?
to to reset the ink counter.
Any suggestions?
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measekite
if you purchased factory recommended ink you would not have this problem.
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Ian
I refilled my Cannon Pixma Ip1600 ink cartridge but I cannot find a way
to to reset the ink counter.
Any suggestions?
Buy a real printer...HP. Canon's are just toys.
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Gary Tait
Buy a real printer...HP. Canon's are just toys.
Not all, just those line of Canons are toys, as are HP's lower end line.
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Gary Tait
I refilled my Cannon Pixma Ip1600 ink cartridge but I cannot find a way
to to reset the ink counter.
Any suggestions?
You can't, yet. The Info s stored on a chip in the cartridge, and hasn't
been cracked in a legally viable manner, yet.
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Ian
Gary said:Not all, just those line of Canons are toys, as are HP's lower end line.
Overall Canon are just toys...when compared to HP.
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Burt
Ian said:Overall Canon are just toys...when compared to HP.
Ian's personal opinion, now repeated enough times to require a response.
i960, ip5000, i9900, etc - beautiful photo prints and carts are refillable
with a selection of excellent inks for about $1 per cart. The printhead is
replaceable, although costly. Most HPs have integrated printheads in the
carts that drive up the cart price and prevent aftermarket vendors from
selling compatables. If one wishes to refill the HP carts it is more
complicated than the Canon carts. Unfortunately, canon has now gone to
chipped carts which, temporarily I hope, prevent aftermarket compatable
carts from being produced. They can, however, still be refilled easily.
Bottom line - Canon, Epson, and HP make printers from very low end to very
decent consumer units, and they all function well. It is a matter of
personal choice, and each has value for the person who makes that choice.
No need to denigrate someone elses choice of printer after they have
purchased it and have asked for help on the NG. It is mean spirited and of
no value to the person asking the question.
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Ian
Burt said:Ian's personal opinion, now repeated enough times to require a response.
i960, ip5000, i9900, etc - beautiful photo prints and carts are refillable
with a selection of excellent inks for about $1 per cart. The printhead is
replaceable, although costly. Most HPs have integrated printheads in the
carts that drive up the cart price and prevent aftermarket vendors from
selling compatables. If one wishes to refill the HP carts it is more
complicated than the Canon carts. Unfortunately, canon has now gone to
chipped carts which, temporarily I hope, prevent aftermarket compatable
carts from being produced. They can, however, still be refilled easily.
Bottom line - Canon, Epson, and HP make printers from very low end to very
decent consumer units, and they all function well. It is a matter of
personal choice, and each has value for the person who makes that choice.
No need to denigrate someone elses choice of printer after they have
purchased it and have asked for help on the NG. It is mean spirited and of
no value to the person asking the question.
As I said:
Overall Canon are just toys...when compared to HP.
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Jacques E. Bouchard
As I said:
Overall Canon are just toys...when compared to HP.
Interesting argument, especially when formulated the third time - or
fourth, or fifth, or sixth...
I'd be very interested in hearing more about your in-depth comparable
studies of Canon and HP, by model. In particular, I'd like to know what
you think about CIS systems for HP (wait, do they even make those?), and
the lack of HP printer models with ink tanks as opposed to cartridges
(wait, do they even make those?).
I almost bought the HP PS 5200 last week, until I figured out that I
could buy three permanent Canon print heads for the cost of replacing
those six HP cartridges with integrated print heads in a year. And
that's recycled, not new.
You know what other HP product I like? The HP Scanjet 5200. Amazing
document feeder that almost hardly ever jams, a buggy interface that
does everything you don't want and nothing you do, and a hefty price tag
comparable to a Canon multifunction that scans duplex (sans the Canon's
fax and printing abilities, of course).
jaybee
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Michael Johnson, PE
Ian said:As I said:
Overall Canon are just toys...when compared to HP.
I have used both and I will buy nothing but HP laser printers and
plotters but for inkjets it's Canon, all the way, for me.
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Burt
Michael Johnson said:I have used both and I will buy nothing but HP laser printers and plotters
but for inkjets it's Canon, all the way, for me.
I have also used HP laser printers only, but Canon inkjets have been my
favorites. Prior to owning four Canon inkjets, however, I did have an Epson
inkjet which I enjoyed using for over two years until it started clogging.
In its day picture quality was good, but the Canons I've owned, granted the
fact that technology for all printers became better, have produced much more
beautiful photo prints.
Ian's one-liner without any explanation puts him in the same catagory as our
favorite manipulator of the truth when he simply says that non-OEM inks are
junk. I would appreciate an explanation so we can all learn from his
experience.
J
Jacques E. Bouchard
I have used both and I will buy nothing but HP laser printers and
plotters but for inkjets it's Canon, all the way, for me.
True. I've owned a Laserjet 4si that probably outlived several owners
before me, and will no doubt outlive several after.
jaybee
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Paul Heslop
Ian said:As I said:
Overall Canon are just toys...when compared to HP.
surely you mean some canon are inferior to some HP and vice versa?
bloody obvious that not all Canons are worse than all HP
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Michael Johnson, PE
Jacques said:True. I've owned a Laserjet 4si that probably outlived several owners
before me, and will no doubt outlive several after.
I especially respect HP plotters. It isn't that they are great for the
inkjet technology they employ but they are built damn near bullet proof.
I still use a DesignJet 220E I bought about ten years ago and aside
from replacing the carriage ribbon it has been flawless. Almost all
engineering companies use HP plotters so that tells you something too.
However, many are switching to large format laser printer/copiers so the
days of using plotters are coming to an end.
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Michael Johnson, PE
Burt said:I have also used HP laser printers only, but Canon inkjets have been my
favorites. Prior to owning four Canon inkjets, however, I did have an Epson
inkjet which I enjoyed using for over two years until it started clogging.
In its day picture quality was good, but the Canons I've owned, granted the
fact that technology for all printers became better, have produced much more
beautiful photo prints.
The main reason I use Canon inkjets is the reduced ink cost when using
compatible cartridges. IMO, picture quality is very close between the
manufacturers and is good enough for most users. If Canon continues on
their current path of chipped cartridges and the after market doesn't
provide a fix for this, then I may have to look at other inkjet printer
brands for future purchases.
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Martin
Jacques said:Interesting argument, especially when formulated the third time - or
fourth, or fifth, or sixth...
I'd be very interested in hearing more about your in-depth comparable
studies of Canon and HP, by model. In particular, I'd like to know what
you think about CIS systems for HP (wait, do they even make those?), and
the lack of HP printer models with ink tanks as opposed to cartridges
(wait, do they even make those?).
I almost bought the HP PS 5200 last week, until I figured out that I
could buy three permanent Canon print heads for the cost of replacing
those six HP cartridges with integrated print heads in a year. And
that's recycled, not new.
You know what other HP product I like? The HP Scanjet 5200. Amazing
document feeder that almost hardly ever jams, a buggy interface that
does everything you don't want and nothing you do, and a hefty price tag
comparable to a Canon multifunction that scans duplex (sans the Canon's
fax and printing abilities, of course).
jaybee
Hi Jacques,
I can't give you an indepth analysis as I've really not touched HP for
ages due to my interest in CIS kits and the problem inherent with the
HPs printhead integrated designs.
What I can tell you is that HP have got a few printers that use
reservoirs instead of integrated carts in the K550 model and a few users
on nifty-stuff have been quite happy to share their experiences on that
score.
I'm not convinced enough to buy one of them myself but it might help
explain some of the differences/similarities:
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1171
As for Canon newer printer line... I have to say I like their
functionality and output but the chips and Canons new "money talks"
approach has left me with a bad after taste. Until I can safely
circumnavigate their chips I'll not feel completely confident in using
or recommending their printers, even with my CIS kits which are working
very well so far.
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measekite
Martin said:Hi Jacques,
I can't give you an indepth analysis as I've really not touched HP for
ages due to my interest in CIS kits and the problem inherent with the
HPs printhead integrated designs.
What I can tell you is that HP have got a few printers that use
reservoirs instead of integrated carts in the K550 model and a few
users on nifty-stuff have been quite happy to share their experiences
on that score.
I'm not convinced enough to buy one of them myself but it might help
explain some of the differences/similarities:
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1171
As for Canon newer printer line... I have to say I like their
functionality and output but the chips and Canons new "money talks"
approach has left me with a bad after taste. Until I can safely
circumnavigate their chips
You do not need to circumnavigate the chips. They work just fine. The
only problem is they are overkill and they charge $2.00 a cart more. I
do not think the value is there but I still recommend Canon as it is the
best right now.
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Ian
measekite said:You do not need to circumnavigate the chips. They work just fine. The
only problem is they are overkill and they charge $2.00 a cart more. I
do not think the value is there but I still recommend Canon as it is the
best right now.
I agree with measekite, Canon is the best right now. Soon that will
change, as Canon black ink is only as good as generic ink.
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Olin K. McDaniel
I have used both and I will buy nothing but HP laser printers and
plotters but for inkjets it's Canon, all the way, for me.
I agree totally with the statement immediately above. Also I still
have an HP P1000, which I retired as an inconsistent and unreliable
piece of crap, just like the HP 722 which I had previously. In
amazing contrast, the Canon i950 has performed superbly. The original
printhead lasted over 24 months without the slightest problem, and
gave slightly increasing problems over the next 6 months, at which
time I replaced it with a new printhead. In this ENTIRE time I
refilled the six ORIGINAL factory cartridges, several over 20 refills
(especially the Photo Magenta and Photo Cyan, which get used the
most). Now that I've bought a new printhead and a full set of 6 new
Canon cartridges, I'm paying close attention to how well and long
these will perform properly, with refilling using MIS inks, after the
original inks are depleted. This printer is used primarily for
printing high quality color photographs.
Regarding laser printers, I have limited experience there - I'm still
using for text, the old HP Laser Jet Series II, after at least 15
years reliable use. In addition to replacing toner cartridges many
times, I had to have it serviced once about 6 years ago.
Therefore, I feel my data points are at least as valid as those
claimed by certain "know it all's" on here.
Olin McDaniel
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measekite
Olin said:I agree totally with the statement immediately above. Also I still
have an HP P1000, which I retired as an inconsistent and unreliable
piece of crap, just like the HP 722 which I had previously. In
amazing contrast, the Canon i950 has performed superbly. The original
printhead lasted over 24 months without the slightest problem, and
gave slightly increasing problems over the next 6 months, at which
time I replaced it with a new printhead. In this ENTIRE time I
refilled
Ah Yes, now we know why you barely got 24 months out of a printhead that
should last years longer. Mine is approaching 24 months, never even
done a cleaning cycle and used only Canon OEM ink that the head was
engineered, designed, and manufactured to use.
the six ORIGINAL factory cartridges, several over 20 refills
(especially the Photo Magenta and Photo Cyan, which get used the
most). Now that I've bought a new printhead and a full set of 6 new
Canon cartridges, I'm paying close attention to how well and long
these will perform properly, with refilling using MIS inks, after the
original inks are depleted. This printer is used primarily for
printing high quality color photographs.
What I hear you saying is that you are purchasing some kind of generic
ink from the aforementioned relabeler and you are wondering how long you
will get before the head goes fooee.