Can these drives be revived?

[Lady Margaret Thatcher]

I was building up a system and took these two drives out of my
"inventory," only to discover neither one could be formatted. Can
either of these drives be revived?

Drive 1: IBM Ultrastar 73LZX Ultra 160 80P, 36 GB, 10K RPM. 1" high,
model .

Drive is detected properly in device scan and LED on drive's
electronics board lights up. But drive does not spin, and format
operation from host adapter fails.

Drive 2: Compaq model BD07264546. Ultra3 SCSI 72.8 GB, 10K RPM. 1"
high model. 80P. (Quantum? ) Only drive vendor info is one of the
chips says "Quantum" and product label says, "Product Japan."

I suspect that this drive was made for Quantum by Matshusita, which I
think used to have a manufacturing partnership with Quantum.

Drive is detected and spins up when power first applied. After about
15-20 seconds, drive makes two "clunk" sounds about a second apart,
then starts to spin down. One more "clunk" sound and drive stops.

Thanks.

 

[Dr. Anton T. Squeegee]

Drive is detected properly in device scan and LED on drive's
electronics board lights up. But drive does not spin, and format
operation from host adapter fails.

Did you go into the host adapter's setup and enable the 'Send
Start Unit Command' feature for that drive's ID? It may well be
configured not to start the spindle until it gets a command to do so.

Drive is detected and spins up when power first applied. After about
15-20 seconds, drive makes two "clunk" sounds about a second apart,
then starts to spin down. One more "clunk" sound and drive stops.

Not good. That sounds like definite mechanical failure. I hope you
didn't have any critical data on that particular disk (or, if you did, I
hope you have a backup).

Happy tweaking.


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[Arno Wagner]

I was building up a system and took these two drives out of my
"inventory," only to discover neither one could be formatted. Can
either of these drives be revived?

Drive 1: IBM Ultrastar 73LZX Ultra 160 80P, 36 GB, 10K RPM. 1" high,
model .

Drive is detected properly in device scan and LED on drive's
electronics board lights up. But drive does not spin, and format
operation from host adapter fails.

Drive 2: Compaq model BD07264546. Ultra3 SCSI 72.8 GB, 10K RPM. 1"
high model. 80P. (Quantum? ) Only drive vendor info is one of the
chips says "Quantum" and product label says, "Product Japan."

I suspect that this drive was made for Quantum by Matshusita, which I
think used to have a manufacturing partnership with Quantum.

Drive is detected and spins up when power first applied. After about
15-20 seconds, drive makes two "clunk" sounds about a second apart,
then starts to spin down. One more "clunk" sound and drive stops.

Why waste time on these things? They sound dead. New drives
in this capacity range are very cheap.

Arno

 

[Lady Margaret Thatcher]

Did you go into the host adapter's setup and enable the 'Send
Start Unit Command' feature for that drive's ID? It may well be
configured not to start the spindle until it gets a command to do so.

I thought of that too, but my controller (LSI 22320-R) doesn't have a
menu option for SEND START UNIT. Without digging through all the tech
docs, I'm going to guess that the controller automatically executes
this command.

Not good. That sounds like definite mechanical failure. I hope you
didn't have any critical data on that particular disk (or, if you did, I
hope you have a backup).

No. It was a drive I bought cheap off ebay. My bad for not testing
it the day i received it. Instead, it went into my "inventory" for
future use. This is the first time that I have gotten a bum drive off
ebay.

As another poster suggested, why waste time with these drives, since
they are cheap. I agree. I just like to run things forever.

LMT

 

[John Turco]

Why waste time on these things? They sound dead. New drives
in this capacity range are very cheap.

Arno

Hello, Arno:

Are new >SCSI< hard disks, "in this capacity range," as afordable as
their IDE/SATA counterparts, though?


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>

 

[Arno Wagner]

Hello, Arno:

Are new >SCSI< hard disks, "in this capacity range," as afordable as
their IDE/SATA counterparts, though?

Probaly not. You are right. But if the OP is willing to use shaky
SCSI drives, reliability is likely not an issue and cheap IDE
drives should be a possible substitute. Should have added that
line of reaoning in my original answer.

Arno

 

[Lady Margaret Thatcher]

Probaly not. You are right. But if the OP is willing to use shaky
SCSI drives, reliability is likely not an issue and cheap IDE
drives should be a possible substitute. Should have added that
line of reaoning in my original answer.

As the OP, I am NOT willing to use "shaky" drives. Obviously I would
use these drivesw, if revived, for scratch purposes. Since these
drives appear to be dead, they will go to the local recycling center.

 

[Arno Wagner]

[...]

Probaly not. You are right. But if the OP is willing to use shaky
SCSI drives, reliability is likely not an issue and cheap IDE
drives should be a possible substitute. Should have added that
line of reaoning in my original answer.

As the OP, I am NOT willing to use "shaky" drives. Obviously I would
use these drivesw, if revived, for scratch purposes. Since these
drives appear to be dead, they will go to the local recycling center.

Ok, _that_ makes sense. I thought you actually wanted to install
something on them.

Arno