Can powerpoint presentations be zipped?

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NiceCalifGuy

When I zip a large powerpoint presentation, the size barely goes down. Is this
just the nature of powerpoint, that there is nothing really to compress? By
contrast, when I zip an Excel file the zipped file can be as much as 90% lower
in size than the non-zipped Excel file.

Thanks.
 
NiceCalifGuy,

Since powerpoint version 97, powerpoint does a pretty good job of
compressing its ppt files.
If you zip them up they barely shrink at all.

Probably Excel does not compress it's spreadsheet files.

If you want to make your powerpoint files go smaller see this page
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00062.htm

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
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All advice I have ever been given is never to zipp a Power
Point presentation.

It has caused so much grief with end users by corrupting
the file and then not playing back.

The only safe way to do this is to use pack and go( from
the file menu )which to all purposes acts like a zipp
anyway, but one that does work.

Gary
 
Interesting. I've never seen a zipped PPT file become corrupted. I'd
almost always opt for WinZip over Pack and Go.
 
The only safe way to do this is to use pack and go
I've seen pack and go cause lots of grief over the years!
I avoid it like the plague

TAJ
 
All advice I have ever been given is never to zipp a Power
Point presentation.

I've never seen or heard of a case of WinZIP or PKZIP or in fact, any other
reliable zipping utility, corrupting a PPT file or any other.

It's possible for the ZIP file itself to get corrupted in one way or
another, but that can happen to any file type. ZIPping PPTs can actually
prevent certain kinds of corruption that earlier versions were prone to.
 
I am pleased to hear that you have not had the misfortunes
of the zipped Power Point file that wont play.

Take it from me Steve, Power Point files like any other
compressed image file can, and regularly does cause
problems due to 'zippng'. There is certainly nothing wrong
with or the practice of zipping an uncompressed file such
as a text file, or the credentials of the software you
mentioned.

To use a compressed file and then compress it again is
called concatination. This causes errors in the file
itself and can seriously degrade the image. As to other
types of files; it is standard practice among
photographers that a jpeg image ( which is a compressed
file )is never compressed again by using a compression
utility.

Why ZIPP a PowerPoint file anyway? We know that the file
size does not get smaller, it usually gets bigger. The
Power Point file it's self is a robust format compared to
other types, and zipping it does not make it more secure
or transportable.



Gary
 
Take it from me Steve, Power Point files like any other
compressed image file can, and regularly does cause
problems due to 'zippng'. There is certainly nothing wrong
with or the practice of zipping an uncompressed file such
as a text file, or the credentials of the software you
mentioned.

I'd have to see evidence of it to believe it, I'm afraid.
Austin's from Missouri and taught me that "Show Me" thing they do there. ;-)

Better yet, if you have evidence of it, do be certain that Nico Mak of
WinZIP fame hears about it.
To use a compressed file and then compress it again is
called concatination. This causes errors in the file
itself and can seriously degrade the image.

This is certainly true of lossy compression like JPG, but not of lossless
compression like ZIP uses.
As to other
types of files; it is standard practice among
photographers that a jpeg image ( which is a compressed
file )is never compressed again by using a compression
utility.

I was a photographer in a former life and have been working with digital
images since the '80s.
This is the first I've ever heard of this. Again: never using JPG
compression on an image more than once, absolutely! ZIP all you like,
though.
Why ZIPP a PowerPoint file anyway? We know that the file
size does not get smaller, it usually gets bigger. The
Power Point file it's self is a robust format

That would explain all the messages we get here every week about how
PowerPoint suddenly can't read a file it was able to read five minutes
earlier? ;-)

In point of fact, at one time, possibly still, PowerPoint had within its
files a byte count of the file size. If the file's physical size on disk
and the internal byte count didn't match, then PPT would declare the file
corrupt and refuse to open it.

Problem is that with certain forms of telecommunications, data packets are
padded to the nearest packet size boundary with nulls, meaning that the last
packet in the transmitted file stands only a one in PacketSize chance of
being transmitted w/o appended nulls. That works out to anything from 1 in
128 to 1 in 2048 or more. In plain terms: in these cases, transmitting
just the PPT file was almost certain to corrupt it.

ZIP utilities were originally written for telcom users so they don't give a
fig about a few nulls at the end of the file; instead, they happily disgorge
the contents of the ZIP unmolested as long as the zip file itself arrives
uncorrupted. Meaning in turn that at one time the ONLY way of making sure a
PPT file arrived alive was to ZIP it.
 
Gary,
To use a compressed file and then compress it again is called
concatination.
I have happily zipped, zip files (a .zip within a .zip), and extracted them
daily. No problems.

If I've ever had a problem with a zip file...it's been because the file was
damaged...just like any other file can be damaged.
To use a compressed file and then compress it again is
called concatination. This causes errors in the file
itself and can seriously degrade the image.
True for jpeg images as it's a lossy format. Unlike PNG files (a compressed
format). You can re-save a PNG file again and again without loss of quality.
Why ZIPP a PowerPoint file anyway?
We've had quite a few posts (not so much recently) from people who email
powerpoint files...and they get messed up by large corporations email
systems. They come out as garbage, or not at all, the other end. Zipping
them before sending helps them make it through a lot of corporations email
system.

Also you can zip several powerpoint files (and any other files needed) into
one nice .zip pack. You can also make it auto extract (.exe) without the
need for winzip or similar

The Power Point file it's self is a robust format compared to
other types,
What Steve said.
and zipping it does not make it more secure
or transportable.
You can password protect a winzip file. and ditto about the email thing.

TAJ
 
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