Can P4C800E-D run a 3.4GHz Northwood CPU?

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Mobo is a year old, I recently flashed its BIOS up to this-

BIOS Date: 07/22/04, ver: 08.00.09, rev: 1017

I've been running a 3.0GHz Northwood CPU in it for the past year,
but am hoping to give it a little speed bump in the near future,
when the price of the 3.4GHz Northwood comes down a bit more. Any
reason it wouldn't work? I'm relatively certain it will work fine, but
thought I'd check in here first, just in case. TIA!
-Marshall
 
Marshall said:
Mobo is a year old, I recently flashed its BIOS up to this-

BIOS Date: 07/22/04, ver: 08.00.09, rev: 1017

I've been running a 3.0GHz Northwood CPU in it for the past year,
but am hoping to give it a little speed bump in the near future,
when the price of the 3.4GHz Northwood comes down a bit more. Any
reason it wouldn't work? I'm relatively certain it will work fine, but
thought I'd check in here first, just in case. TIA!
-Marshall
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From the cpusupport page at ASUS:
http://www.asus.com/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx

CPU PCBver BIOSver

P4-3.20 GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:512KB, HT) ALL ALL
P4-3.20 GHz Extreme Ed. (800 FSB, HT) ALL 1016
P4-3.20E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm) ALL 1016
P4-3.40 GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:512KB, HT) ALL 1016
P4-3.40E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm) ALL 1016
P4-3.40 GHz Extreme Ed. (Socket478, 800 FSB, HT) ALL 1016

so your okay, with the 1017 BIOS, you could slap in a 3.4C, 3.4E or even
a 3.4EE processor.
 
Philip Callan said:
From the cpusupport page at ASUS:
http://www.asus.com/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx

CPU PCBver BIOSver

P4-3.20 GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:512KB, HT) ALL ALL
P4-3.20 GHz Extreme Ed. (800 FSB, HT) ALL 1016
P4-3.20E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm) ALL 1016
P4-3.40 GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:512KB, HT) ALL 1016
P4-3.40E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm) ALL 1016
P4-3.40 GHz Extreme Ed. (Socket478, 800 FSB, HT) ALL 1016

so your okay, with the 1017 BIOS, you could slap in a 3.4C, 3.4E or even
a 3.4EE processor.
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Thank you very much for the great info, Philip! By the way, have you heard
if Intel will ever make a 3.6 or higher Northwood chip in Socket 478 mode?
Or have Northwood and Socket 478 pretty much played their swan song?
Looks like everything is going to the new LGA 775 formfactor, now.
-Marshall
 
Marshall said:
Thank you very much for the great info, Philip! By the way, have you heard
if Intel will ever make a 3.6 or higher Northwood chip in Socket 478 mode?
Or have Northwood and Socket 478 pretty much played their swan song?
Looks like everything is going to the new LGA 775 formfactor, now.
-Marshall
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No problem, I tend to look for posts about this board, I've been running
one at home pretty much 24/7 for 11 months now, gaming in Windows,
work in Linux, it rocks.

I hope they do make a 3.6+ for the 478, but if they don't I'm not to
worried, given their lackluster sales of the EE series, and the step
away from 478, nevermind 2nd hand, intel is going to end up dumping
those puppies cheap compared to a similar performing higher core speed,
higher FSB (1066?), lower cache (512k/1MB) counterparts in LGA775

I don't upgrade as often, tend to grab the higher end when I do, strech
out the life of the product, I ended up going with the P4C800E-D because
of prescott support, and was irked when Intel said 3.2 was going to be
the top end for s478, then backtracked, and offered up to 3.4, there are
a fair number of s478 boards, so never discount any possibility as to
CPU/Board combinations down the road (anyone running tulatins on old
asus boards that were never intended for it?)

I'm waiting for the first real dual-core x86 processors to hit the
streets, then I'll upgrade again. (although if IBM tossed a SMP Power5
rig my way, I could run linux on it for work, and turn my p4 machine
into a X-box/MediaCentre on PCP)

Personally if your going 3.4 go with the EE ;)
 
Philip Callan said:
Personally if your going 3.4 go with the EE ;)
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3.4C = $280, 3.4 Extreme Edition = $900+.

Total rip off. If it provided 2x the power and framerates over the
vanilla 3.4, it might be worth all that big wad of dough... but it is
only a relatively small increase, definitely not worth the expense
unless you're one of those strange types who'd sell their little sister's
virtue for 5 extra frames per second in some 3D game. ;-) Not me!

I'll save that $900 for next year, for when it will buy me 2/3 or more
of a new system with some real hot new technology in it, rather than
a dead-end chip with a huge overpriced gob of cache stapled onto it.

In the meantime, when the 3.4C drops to less than $250, that'll do fine
to help me along till then :-)
-Marshall
 
Marshall said:
Mobo is a year old, I recently flashed its BIOS up to this-

BIOS Date: 07/22/04, ver: 08.00.09, rev: 1017

I've been running a 3.0GHz Northwood CPU in it for the past year,
but am hoping to give it a little speed bump in the near future,
when the price of the 3.4GHz Northwood comes down a bit more. Any
reason it wouldn't work? I'm relatively certain it will work fine, but
thought I'd check in here first, just in case. TIA!
-Marshall
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I am running a 3.4C on this board since March this year (Bios rev. 1016) and
it's rock solid. I doubt however if you will notice a substantial speed
difference as compared to the 3.0 GHz you are running at the moment. I don't
know the rest of your system, but if you have e.g. 512 MB of Ram, upgrading
to 1024 MB will give your system a far better boost than the 400 MHz
difference in processor speed. BTW: on this board it's quite easy to OC the
3.0 GHz to 3.4 or even 3.6 GHz, provided you have the right kind of Ram
installed and you have sufficient cooling in place.

Jan
 
Jan--while my system, based on this board, is rock solid at standard
settings, I have had no luck in OC'ing it--not even 5% with my 3.2
Northwood. This may be due to the limitations of its memory: 1 Gig of
Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2Pro DIMMs--have tried various memory timings without
much success in OC'ing.

MikeSp
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Hello Michael,

I happen to have the same memory as you have and this 400 MHz memory is
fantastic at normal settings, but for OC you need faster sticks. A friend of
mine has a 3.0 GHz Northwood @3.6 GHz on this board with 550 MHz Corsair
sticks (latency at 3-4-4-8). My sticks run at 2-3-3-6. This proofs it is
possible, provided you use the right kind of memory. Also watch your temps
carefully!!

Personally I prefer stability over performance. Besides, this kind of speed
increases do of course show up in bechmarks, but you will not notice that
much difference when performing normal day to day computertasks. OC is not
my kind of thing, although it can be done.

Jan
 
I am running a 3.4 Northwood, 840FSB, HT, BIOS 1017
with BFG 6800 Ultra OC and 4 - 512MB OCZ EL 2-3-2-5.

HT is really cool, XP Pro see 2 processors.

PCMark04 - 5884
3DMark03 - 12887
 
Jan--while my system, based on this board, is rock solid at standard
settings, I have had no luck in OC'ing it--not even 5% with my 3.2
Northwood. This may be due to the limitations of its memory: 1 Gig
of Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2Pro DIMMs--have tried various memory
timings without much success in OC'ing.
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I tried my 3.2GHz Northwood (SL6WG) overclocked to 20% (3,9GHz)
with no problem at all. 30% did not work.
Settings in the BIOS are standard.
Memory: (1024MB) 2X Kingston KVR400X72C3A/512 (ECC version)
PSU: Antec TruePower 550W
Motherboard: P4C800-E Deluxe Version 2.0
BIOS: 1016
 
WOW--I can only get up to 9500 on 3DMark03 with my 3.2 Northwood and two 512
sticks of Corsair XMS3200 C2 Pro running it at 2-3-3-6 and cannot hit higher
than 800 FSB... SIGH!

MikeSp
 
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