Can NTFS boot to DOS

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Lynn

I have windows 2000 with an NTFS partition. I am trying
to ghost the machine with Ghost 6.0 you can't do it from
windows you need to do it from a DOS prompt. Is there
anyway to make a boot disk that will take me to an A:
prompt like it would if the system was in FAT?

Thanks
Lynn
 
Lynn,

Try going to CDNet and search for a file that creates a
bootable NTFS diskette. I have the file if you would like
me to send it to you, virus free of course :+).

Mark
 
Lynn:

The Ghost boot disk "IS" DOS. However, you can not see a NTFS partition using
DOS. Ghost however will do its thing.

Just have Ghost create the Ghost Boot Disk.

Dave
 
I have windows 2000 with an NTFS partition. I am trying
to ghost the machine with Ghost 6.0 you can't do it from
windows you need to do it from a DOS prompt. Is there
anyway to make a boot disk that will take me to an A:
prompt like it would if the system was in FAT?
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Use the Ghost boot disk utility. Or you can use a Win9x startup disk
if you have one.

But note: you can image an NTFS partition with Ghost, but you can't
write the image *to* an NTFS partition. Using only DOS, you'd still
need a FAT partition as the destination of the image file. (Unless you
are directly writing to a CD/R, or you create a network boot disk to
write the image to another system.)

If all you have are NTFS partitions, then you would need something
like NTFSDOS. It's essentially a driver that allows DOS to read and
write NTFS partitions.
 
David H. Lipman said:
NEITHER is needed for Ghost.

As I stated, Ghost will create a Ghost Boot Disk. This will be
either MS DOS or PC DOS and that is what is required by Ghost.exe
which is a DOS program..

Dave
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But do NOT use the PC-DOS (default) selection since it has been found
NOT to be as compatible across as wide range of hardware as MS-DOS. But
MS-DOS does NOT come with Ghost (that came with Norton SystemWorks 2002;
don't know about later versions). Symantec expects you to have MS-DOS
or Windows 9x to copy the system files from them. So although they
claim Windows NT4/2K/XP support, you still end up having to buy a copy
of MS-DOS (tough to find) or Windows 9x.

Instead, you can go to www.bootdisk.com to get disk images that will
created bootable 3.5" floppies. Even Microsoft recommends to go there
for a bootable floppy for a version of DOS that you don't have
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326682). The
downloaded .exe file is much bigger than would fit onto a floppy. You
save it to your hard disk and then run it which then has it lay down an
bootable image on the floppy.
 
Yes, I have read an article or two about the PC DOS issue. Although, with my Enterprise
Ghost v7.0 that comes ONLY with PC DOS, I have had zero problems cloning 100's of systems.
Personally, I wouldn't mind trying Novell/Caldera DOS which was released to the public a few
years back.

As for the hardware compatibility issue, I found it related to the 3COM 3c905/3c920 10/100
chip-sets and the possibility of a "decompression error". The vast majority of my platforms
use these 3COM chip-sets w/PC DOS successfully.

I would definitely NOT come out with a blanket statement that PC DOS should not be used.
The circumstance of replacing the Ghost Boot Disk OS should only be done *IF* there is using
a problem with PC DOS.

Dave


| | > NEITHER is needed for Ghost.
| >
| > As I stated, Ghost will create a Ghost Boot Disk. This will be
| > either MS DOS or PC DOS and that is what is required by Ghost.exe
| > which is a DOS program..
| >
| > Dave
|
| But do NOT use the PC-DOS (default) selection since it has been found
| NOT to be as compatible across as wide range of hardware as MS-DOS. But
| MS-DOS does NOT come with Ghost (that came with Norton SystemWorks 2002;
| don't know about later versions). Symantec expects you to have MS-DOS
| or Windows 9x to copy the system files from them. So although they
| claim Windows NT4/2K/XP support, you still end up having to buy a copy
| of MS-DOS (tough to find) or Windows 9x.
|
| Instead, you can go to www.bootdisk.com to get disk images that will
| created bootable 3.5" floppies. Even Microsoft recommends to go there
| for a bootable floppy for a version of DOS that you don't have
| (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326682). The
| downloaded .exe file is much bigger than would fit onto a floppy. You
| save it to your hard disk and then run it which then has it lay down an
| bootable image on the floppy.
|
|
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I would definitely NOT come out with a blanket statement that PC DOS should not be used.
The circumstance of replacing the Ghost Boot Disk OS should only be done *IF* there is using
a problem with PC DOS.
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Why is that? I have never once used the Ghost Boot Disk. I use Ghost
with a custom MS-DOS 7.10 (Win98) boot disk, either plain or with a
network configuration.

I've been using Ghost since before Symantec acquired it, and long ago
there was no Ghost Boot Disk wizard.
 
For what it's worth, PowerQuest's DriveImage has been able to save
images to NTFS volumes and has had native support for hardware RAID for
years now.
 
IOstorm:

That's fine. Use MS DOS v7.x. There's no reason to change the DOS if UNLESS there is a
problem. With the newer Ghost versions, i.e, 2003, you need to make a disk at least for
FireWire, USB v1/v2 and DVD support.

If YOU want to SYS A: with Win98 - go for it. Personally, I'd like to try it with
Novell/Caldera DOS. but, the PC DOS works just fine !

Dave

| On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:11:01 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
|
| >I would definitely NOT come out with a blanket statement that PC DOS should not be used.
| >The circumstance of replacing the Ghost Boot Disk OS should only be done *IF* there is
using
| >a problem with PC DOS.
|
| Why is that? I have never once used the Ghost Boot Disk. I use Ghost
| with a custom MS-DOS 7.10 (Win98) boot disk, either plain or with a
| network configuration.
|
| I've been using Ghost since before Symantec acquired it, and long ago
| there was no Ghost Boot Disk wizard.
 
IOstorm:

That's fine. Use MS DOS v7.x. There's no reason to change the DOS if UNLESS there is a
problem. With the newer Ghost versions, i.e, 2003, you need to make a disk at least for
FireWire, USB v1/v2 and DVD support.

If YOU want to SYS A: with Win98 - go for it. Personally, I'd like to try it with
Novell/Caldera DOS. but, the PC DOS works just fine !
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I always change it since Ghost's boot disk is designed for using
Ghost. That's it. So I create a Ghost boot disk just for the sake of
scavenging the drivers and rolling them into my general DOS boot
partition which can do a lot of things besides using Ghost.
 
IOstorm:

For the unitiated - this is complex especially as we move further away from DOS.

However, for those of us that know DOS, batch files, NDIS2 and Crynwar Packet
Drivers, this stuff is super easy.

Do you use the Reatil or the Enterprise versions of Ghost. I use both.
Enterprise v7.0 and 2003.

Dave
 
IOstorm:

For the unitiated - this is complex especially as we move further away from DOS.

However, for those of us that know DOS, batch files, NDIS2 and Crynwar Packet
Drivers, this stuff is super easy.

Do you use the Reatil or the Enterprise versions of Ghost. I use both.
Enterprise v7.0 and 2003.
Click to expand...

I've always been pining for a NT/Win2k version of MS-DOS's CLI, so you
caught me.. ;)

I have been using Ghost Corporate 7.5, since I usually find myself
imaging to a network drive which the personal version of Ghost
couldn't do.

But I've been looking at Ghost 2003 since it seems to have added a lot
of features.
 
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