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Frank

Could somebody look at this post and offer suggestions please, or would it
be more fitting to post to the Help and Support group now that the original
subject has changed somewhat?

Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
Frank

Throw a quick problem description up here and we might be able to help you.
 
Frank

Throw a quick problem description up here and we might be able to help you.

Hi Joseph,

I already posted an updated problem description yesterday to this news
group. Please take a look at my last post to the below mentioned thread,
it should bring you up to date.

Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
Anyone who is following your old thread will no doubt continue with it. But
if you want to start a new thread, it might be best to ask a question with
the pertinent information instead of asking people to go searching for an
old thread. I download 300 headers at a time, and your old thread is not
among my downloads. This is a pretty busy group, so 300 at a time isn't
going to get everything that I've missed since I last logged on. Personally,
I'm not going to sit here and download headers in groups of 300, just to
read your message which I may or may not have an answer to. Maybe someone
else is that devoted, but you might get a better response if you just asked
the question instead of asking people to go look for it.

Don't take this as a criticism; I'm just trying to explain why another
poster asked that you describe your problem, and why many people will not
bother to go on a treasure hunt to find your old post.
 
Anyone who is following your old thread will no doubt continue with it. But
if you want to start a new thread, it might be best to ask a question with
the pertinent information instead of asking people to go searching for an
old thread. I download 300 headers at a time, and your old thread is not
among my downloads. This is a pretty busy group, so 300 at a time isn't
going to get everything that I've missed since I last logged on. Personally,
I'm not going to sit here and download headers in groups of 300, just to
read your message which I may or may not have an answer to. Maybe someone
else is that devoted, but you might get a better response if you just asked
the question instead of asking people to go look for it.

Don't take this as a criticism; I'm just trying to explain why another
poster asked that you describe your problem, and why many people will not
bother to go on a treasure hunt to find your old post.


You'll notice I included a Message-ID in the body of my message when I
started this thread, and I quoted it again in my reply. That's a common
courtesy shared by many experienced Usenetizens who want to refer people to
other posts. In my news reader (Forte Agent) a Message-ID works with NNTP
the same way a hyper link works with HTTP. All one has to do is click on
the Message-ID and the posted Usenet message will "come to him". So I
didn't ask anybody to go looking or searching for anything, much less
download hundreds of headers. In essence I supplied a link.

My apologies if you thought I meant to send you on a treasure hunt just for
my problem, though I think MS Outlook Express is as much a source of your
frustration as I am. If you could configure OE to read Message-ID's as
news url's instead of mail url's it would make reading NNTP more enjoyable
and efficient. Linking directly to other NNTP posts just by pasting a
header or two, even when the posts are in other news groups, is a very
handy feature on Usenet. I'll take your advice, however, and start a new
thread. And while I'm at it I'll try to accommodate OE users, the below
link should take you to that new thread.

Subject: How best to solve some problems resulting from failed Repair
Installations while trying to upgrade the CPU
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:47:03 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
Frank said:
You'll notice I included a Message-ID in the body of my message when I
started this thread, and I quoted it again in my reply. That's a common
courtesy shared by many experienced Usenetizens who want to refer people to
other posts. In my news reader (Forte Agent) a Message-ID works with NNTP
the same way a hyper link works with HTTP. All one has to do is click on
the Message-ID and the posted Usenet message will "come to him". So I
didn't ask anybody to go looking or searching for anything, much less
download hundreds of headers. In essence I supplied a link.

Which is fine if the link works. Your new one claims it's expired, by the
way. And nowadays, with all of the viruses proliferating, a lot of people
will avoid clicking any sort of links in messages from unknown people.
Usenet isn't what it used to be.
My apologies if you thought I meant to send you on a treasure hunt just for
my problem, though I think MS Outlook Express is as much a source of your
frustration as I am. If you could configure OE to read Message-ID's as
news url's instead of mail url's it would make reading NNTP more enjoyable
and efficient. Linking directly to other NNTP posts just by pasting a
header or two, even when the posts are in other news groups, is a very
handy feature on Usenet. I'll take your advice, however, and start a new
thread. And while I'm at it I'll try to accommodate OE users, the below
link should take you to that new thread.

Oh, I'm not frustrated, just trying to explain why you might not be getting
the answers you were hoping for. Some of the more devoted people here answer
a multitude of questions every day, and to do so they weed out what they
will or won't answer. If it's too hard to figure out what you're asking,
that's one reason to skip the question.

As far as configuring Outlook to read those links, I suppose if it made a
difference to me, I'd do it, or I'd be reading this group with a different
application. But I look at it the other way: the person asking the question
should configure his question to reach the broadest audience possible, if
that's what he's hoping for.

Once again, this isn't criticism. If you want to post in all caps, ask for
an email response, and attach a graphic, I'm not the one to make a fuss. But
if someone does all that, then wonders why no one answers, I might explain.
Subject: How best to solve some problems resulting from failed Repair
Installations while trying to upgrade the CPU
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:47:03 -0400

Thanks,
Frank



Frank said:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400, "Joseph Conway [MSFT]"


Frank

Throw a quick problem description up here and we might be able to help you.

Hi Joseph,

I already posted an updated problem description yesterday to this news
group. Please take a look at my last post to the below mentioned thread,
it should bring you up to date.

Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank



--
Joseph W. Conway, MCSE
Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP/2003 Server Group

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Could somebody look at this post and offer suggestions please, or
would
it
be more fitting to post to the Help and Support group now that the
original
subject has changed somewhat?

Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
Which is fine if the link works. Your new one claims it's expired, by the
way.

Hmmmm.... a post that's only 8 hours old has already expired from your
server??? It's on my Giganews server, and the link worked for me
immediately after it appeared there. Perhaps your news server has poor
propagation.
And nowadays, with all of the viruses proliferating, a lot of people
will avoid clicking any sort of links in messages from unknown people.
Usenet isn't what it used to be.

It sure isn't.
Oh, I'm not frustrated, just trying to explain why you might not be getting
the answers you were hoping for. Some of the more devoted people here answer
a multitude of questions every day, and to do so they weed out what they
will or won't answer. If it's too hard to figure out what you're asking,
that's one reason to skip the question.

Well, I came here because MS said its news groups are an avenue for XP
support. I even took Mr. White's suggestion and posted back telling you
all what I did, and I tried to supply enough detail so the people here
wouldn't have to inconvenience themselves by dragging the details out of
me, as is often the case with technical matters.

I've taken the MCSE courses for NT4 (just before W2k was released), but I
haven't the expertise of the XP OS I'd like to have to answer those
questions for myself, that's why I came here. If it's still too hard to
figure out the quesions I've asked.... oh well.... I suppose skipped
questions are just another way of saying this avenue too can have a dead
end.
As far as configuring Outlook to read those links, I suppose if it made a
difference to me, I'd do it, or I'd be reading this group with a different
application. But I look at it the other way: the person asking the question
should configure his question to reach the broadest audience possible, if
that's what he's hoping for.

Once again, this isn't criticism. If you want to post in all caps, ask for
an email response, and attach a graphic, I'm not the one to make a fuss. But
if someone does all that, then wonders why no one answers, I might explain.

Point well taken. Have a nice day.

Thanks,
Frank
Subject: How best to solve some problems resulting from failed Repair
Installations while trying to upgrade the CPU
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:47:03 -0400

Thanks,
Frank



On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400, "Joseph Conway [MSFT]"


Frank

Throw a quick problem description up here and we might be able to help
you.

Hi Joseph,

I already posted an updated problem description yesterday to this news
group. Please take a look at my last post to the below mentioned thread,
it should bring you up to date.

Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank



--
Joseph W. Conway, MCSE
Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP/2003 Server Group

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Could somebody look at this post and offer suggestions please, or would
it
be more fitting to post to the Help and Support group now that the
original
subject has changed somewhat?

Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro
Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
Frank said:
Hmmmm.... a post that's only 8 hours old has already expired from your
server??? It's on my Giganews server, and the link worked for me
immediately after it appeared there. Perhaps your news server has poor
propagation.

Could be just about anything. Since the Swen virus, MSs servers have been
doing some weird dances.
It sure isn't.


Well, I came here because MS said its news groups are an avenue for XP
support. I even took Mr. White's suggestion and posted back telling you
all what I did, and I tried to supply enough detail so the people here
wouldn't have to inconvenience themselves by dragging the details out of
me, as is often the case with technical matters.

I've taken the MCSE courses for NT4 (just before W2k was released), but I
haven't the expertise of the XP OS I'd like to have to answer those
questions for myself, that's why I came here. If it's still too hard to
figure out the quesions I've asked.... oh well.... I suppose skipped
questions are just another way of saying this avenue too can have a dead
end.
explain.

Point well taken. Have a nice day.

Thanks,
Frank

As far as your problem, if it was mine, I'd uninstall and reinstall the
video drivers to see if that fixes the display properties.

Then I'd try a repair install.

Then, I'd probably format and reinstall. Sometimes when there are too many
problems nested one on top of the other, that's the best option. Otherwise
it's an endless hunt for niggling little problems.
Subject: How best to solve some problems resulting from failed Repair
Installations while trying to upgrade the CPU
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:47:03 -0400

Thanks,
Frank





On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400, "Joseph Conway [MSFT]"


Frank

Throw a quick problem description up here and we might be able to help
you.

Hi Joseph,

I already posted an updated problem description yesterday to this news
group. Please take a look at my last post to the below mentioned thread,
it should bring you up to date.

Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank



--
Joseph W. Conway, MCSE
Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP/2003 Server Group

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Could somebody look at this post and offer suggestions please, or would
it
be more fitting to post to the Help and Support group now that the
original
subject has changed somewhat?

Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro
Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
Could be just about anything. Since the Swen virus, MSs servers have been
doing some weird dances.


As far as your problem, if it was mine, I'd uninstall and reinstall the
video drivers to see if that fixes the display properties.

Tried that, it didn't work.

Tried sfc /scannow, that didn't work either.
Then I'd try a repair install.

That worked. With the P2 it went as smooth as silk.
Then, I'd probably format and reinstall. Sometimes when there are too many
problems nested one on top of the other, that's the best option. Otherwise
it's an endless hunt for niggling little problems.

I know, I've been there. That's one reason why I was so picky about which
solutions to try first, I don't want to add insult to injury if it can be
avoided, and especially if it can't be undone.

I'm outta here (with fingers crossed)!

Thanks,
Frank
Subject: How best to solve some problems resulting from failed Repair
Installations while trying to upgrade the CPU
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:47:03 -0400

Thanks,
Frank





On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:30:53 -0400, "Joseph Conway [MSFT]"


Frank

Throw a quick problem description up here and we might be able to help
you.

Hi Joseph,

I already posted an updated problem description yesterday to this news
group. Please take a look at my last post to the below mentioned
thread,
it should bring you up to date.

Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro
Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank



--
Joseph W. Conway, MCSE
Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP/2003 Server Group

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Could somebody look at this post and offer suggestions please, or
would
it
be more fitting to post to the Help and Support group now that the
original
subject has changed somewhat?

Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Subject: Re: Why can't I perform a repair installation from XP Pro
Setup
(upgrade version)?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:50:47 -0400

Thanks,
Frank
 
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