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I set up a "Header Page" and insert it into my other pages with "insert\web
component". The links work on all the pages except when I go to the "Homes"
page and then click on the subpages (the actual homes) such as 812 S.
Madison. Then on those sub pages, when I place the curser over the buttons,
it turns to a blank box with an "x" for the image. Any idea what I'm doing
wrong? The site addy is:
www.countrymanorbuilders.com

Any other critiques are welcome. Am new at this. I thought I had the
button problem fixed, but it is still doing it.

Thanks,
Carol Van
 
No, but make sure that you have uploaded all the images.
I would suggest that for a million $$ property you should hire a
professional photographer to take and prepare your photos. You need photos
for all the properties. Also, don't underline any text that is not a link: "
click on the links below "
Eleanor
 
Thanks.

I did end up going in and re-doing the buttons and gave them each individual
names so it would be easier if I had to edit them.

Actually, the photo's were done by a professional Virtual Tour Company.
What are you finding wrong with them? Please let me know. I'm finding all
the suggestions I'm getting from here are VERY HELPFUL. Thanks for the
underlining tip.

Carol
 
I personally find the photos very good and they look just fine to me. They
could be optimized more, however.

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Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| Thanks.
|
| I did end up going in and re-doing the buttons and gave them each
individual
| names so it would be easier if I had to edit them.
|
| Actually, the photo's were done by a professional Virtual Tour Company.
| What are you finding wrong with them? Please let me know. I'm finding
all
| the suggestions I'm getting from here are VERY HELPFUL. Thanks for the
| underlining tip.
|
| Carol
|
| "E. T. Culling" wrote:
|
| > No, but make sure that you have uploaded all the images.
| > I would suggest that for a million $$ property you should hire a
| > professional photographer to take and prepare your photos. You need
photos
| > for all the properties. Also, don't underline any text that is not a
link: "
| > click on the links below "
| > Eleanor
| >
| > | > > Should I just delete all the buttons and .jps's from the files and
start
| > > over??
| > >
| > > Thanks
| > >
| > > "Carol" wrote:
| > >
| > >> I set up a "Header Page" and insert it into my other pages with
| > >> "insert\web
| > >> component". The links work on all the pages except when I go to the
| > >> "Homes"
| > >> page and then click on the subpages (the actual homes) such as 812 S.
| > >> Madison. Then on those sub pages, when I place the curser over the
| > >> buttons,
| > >> it turns to a blank box with an "x" for the image. Any idea what I'm
| > >> doing
| > >> wrong? The site addy is:
| > >> www.countrymanorbuilders.com
| > >>
| > >> Any other critiques are welcome. Am new at this. I thought I had
the
| > >> button problem fixed, but it is still doing it.
| > >>
| > >> Thanks,
| > >> Carol Van
| >
| >
| >
 
Thanks Tom. Am still having trouble with the Buttons when hovering over
them, but only in the sub pages of the "Homes" page, such as the individual
homes (812 S. Madison, etc.) Could it have anything to do with the fact that
those pages are in sub folders on my computer? I find it easier if I
structure my files according to Villages\Subdivisions\Lot. I have the button
files in the main folder of the web site. I tried copying them to the
different folders and that didn't work. The Header files is in its own
folder. Should that page maybe be in the main folder?

Thanks.
 
Hi Carol,

The photos are good but as Tom said they really need optimizing (ie reducing
download time) the main photo for 812 Madison weighs in at 133k, you should
be able to get it down to a fifth of that without losing quality.

For the buttons, FP is looking for the mouseover images in the wrong place,
eg this one
<img border="0" id="img1" src="../../Button_Header_Home3.jpg" height="33"
width="100" alt="Home"
onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Button_Header_Home1.jpg')"
onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Button_Header_Home3.jpg')"

This means that FP looks for home3.jpg in the root (where it is) but then
looks for home1.jpg in
http://www.countrymanorbuilders.com/Hinsdale/812 Madison/

Where it isn't
i'd go for a strcture like this
root/
/common files
/images
/home1
/images
/home2
/images

Basically you want to seperate out the files such as your home page, about
us page, menu etc and their images from the files and images that relate to
each individual home.

For the rest of the site I'd suggest working on the look of your pages, 812
is obviously a nice house but the page just does not say $1.2m to me. I
think getting a nicer font, say Georgia or Trebuchet MS, putting a dark
grey border round the photos and aligning the text with the top of the
photos would make a big difference. People that are in a position to spend
$1m on their home are used to seeing quality. Also this line
"The step saving, full service laundry room is conveniently located on the
second floor near the clothes"
Doesnt seem to make sense - unless I'm missing something. You've got a
quality product there but it needs conveying properly
 
PS
The other real problem you have that will always cause you link problems is the use of spaces in your file and folder names as in
Rental Properties which becomes Rental%20Properties
Remove the spaces (RentalProperties) or Change the spaces to under_scores (Rental_Properties)

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| Hi Carol,
|
| The photos are good but as Tom said they really need optimizing (ie reducing
| download time) the main photo for 812 Madison weighs in at 133k, you should
| be able to get it down to a fifth of that without losing quality.
|
| For the buttons, FP is looking for the mouseover images in the wrong place,
| eg this one
| <img border="0" id="img1" src="../../Button_Header_Home3.jpg" height="33"
| width="100" alt="Home"
| onmouseover="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Button_Header_Home1.jpg')"
| onmouseout="FP_swapImg(0,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'../Button_Header_Home3.jpg')"
|
| This means that FP looks for home3.jpg in the root (where it is) but then
| looks for home1.jpg in
| http://www.countrymanorbuilders.com/Hinsdale/812 Madison/
|
| Where it isn't
| i'd go for a strcture like this
| root/
| /common files
| /images
| /home1
| /images
| /home2
| /images
|
| Basically you want to seperate out the files such as your home page, about
| us page, menu etc and their images from the files and images that relate to
| each individual home.
|
| For the rest of the site I'd suggest working on the look of your pages, 812
| is obviously a nice house but the page just does not say $1.2m to me. I
| think getting a nicer font, say Georgia or Trebuchet MS, putting a dark
| grey border round the photos and aligning the text with the top of the
| photos would make a big difference. People that are in a position to spend
| $1m on their home are used to seeing quality. Also this line
| "The step saving, full service laundry room is conveniently located on the
| second floor near the clothes"
| Doesnt seem to make sense - unless I'm missing something. You've got a
| quality product there but it needs conveying properly
|
| --
| Cheers,
| Jon
| Microsoft MVP
|
|
| | > Thanks Tom. Am still having trouble with the Buttons when hovering over
| > them, but only in the sub pages of the "Homes" page, such as the
| > individual
| > homes (812 S. Madison, etc.) Could it have anything to do with the fact
| > that
| > those pages are in sub folders on my computer? I find it easier if I
| > structure my files according to Villages\Subdivisions\Lot. I have the
| > button
| > files in the main folder of the web site. I tried copying them to the
| > different folders and that didn't work. The Header files is in its own
| > folder. Should that page maybe be in the main folder?
| >
| > Thanks.
| >
| > "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
| >
| >> I personally find the photos very good and they look just fine to me.
| >> They
| >> could be optimized more, however.
| >>
| >> --
| >> ===
| >> Tom "Pepper" Willett
| >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >> ---
| >> About FrontPage 2003:
| >> http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| >> ===
| >> | >> | Thanks.
| >> |
| >> | I did end up going in and re-doing the buttons and gave them each
| >> individual
| >> | names so it would be easier if I had to edit them.
| >> |
| >> | Actually, the photo's were done by a professional Virtual Tour Company.
| >> | What are you finding wrong with them? Please let me know. I'm finding
| >> all
| >> | the suggestions I'm getting from here are VERY HELPFUL. Thanks for the
| >> | underlining tip.
| >> |
| >> | Carol
| >> |
| >> | "E. T. Culling" wrote:
| >> |
| >> | > No, but make sure that you have uploaded all the images.
| >> | > I would suggest that for a million $$ property you should hire a
| >> | > professional photographer to take and prepare your photos. You need
| >> photos
| >> | > for all the properties. Also, don't underline any text that is not a
| >> link: "
| >> | > click on the links below "
| >> | > Eleanor
| >> | >
| >> | > | >> | > > Should I just delete all the buttons and .jps's from the files and
| >> start
| >> | > > over??
| >> | > >
| >> | > > Thanks
| >> | > >
| >> | > > "Carol" wrote:
| >> | > >
| >> | > >> I set up a "Header Page" and insert it into my other pages with
| >> | > >> "insert\web
| >> | > >> component". The links work on all the pages except when I go to
| >> the
| >> | > >> "Homes"
| >> | > >> page and then click on the subpages (the actual homes) such as 812
| >> S.
| >> | > >> Madison. Then on those sub pages, when I place the curser over
| >> the
| >> | > >> buttons,
| >> | > >> it turns to a blank box with an "x" for the image. Any idea what
| >> I'm
| >> | > >> doing
| >> | > >> wrong? The site addy is:
| >> | > >> www.countrymanorbuilders.com
| >> | > >>
| >> | > >> Any other critiques are welcome. Am new at this. I thought I had
| >> the
| >> | > >> button problem fixed, but it is still doing it.
| >> | > >>
| >> | > >> Thanks,
| >> | > >> Carol Van
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >>
| >>
| >>
|
|
 
The reason the images look less than perfect is because they have been
resized with HTML width & height attributes. They look great when viewed at
their normal dimensions.

Bob Lehmann
 
Hi Jon,

What is a good size for the main photo? Are there any guidelines?

As far as the file structure goes, I basically have it as you stated, except
my common files\images are named "header\images", except for the button
..jps's themselves, they are in the root directory. Would it be better to put
them in the "header\images" folder? I originally had them in that folder but
was having trouble so I changed them to the root.

Thanks for the help.
Carol Van
 
Also, why would it change where it is looking for the buttons only on the
individual home pages when all the rest are ok?

Thanks,
Carol Van
 
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