Burn photo CDs in sequence

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SeanyRamone

Whem i try to burn a folder of photos in the order they
are numbered, both xp and Nero seem to mis-read the file
number. Instead of the expected sequence of '1,2,3,4,
etc' i get '1,10,100,101'.
This is really annoying as i spent a lot of time placing
the photos in the correct position. What am i doing
wrong? No doubt it's something obvious!!
 
Use a numbering system like
001,002,003,009,010,011,099,101
its the only way it knows the tenth pic comes before the
101st
 
You can get 1, 2, 3 with XP if you follow certain rules of using ( ) and
separating numbers from text. This will work when as long as you are on XP
and you copy the photos to your CD using XP. (I have no idea bout Nero to
copy photos, I just use XP and I get them in the correct order on the CD).
Using the system below, I get everything done quickly but if I upload photos
to Sony Imagestation, I get the stupid 1, 10, 100, 2, 20, etc. display.
You can always use the old idiotic 001, 002 etc. but you can't batch rename
this way with XP.

If you need to batch rename and number, you can do this easily with XP.



Copy the photos to a new folder.

Open the new folder. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter A. This
will select (highlight in blue) all the files in the folder.

Right click on the first file (important to right click on the first file
because renaming will start from there).

Click on Rename on the opening menu.

Type in the name you want, to replace the current name. Any system will
work, such as year, month, event. For example type in:

2003_09_Virginia Beach Vacation (1).jpg

and press Enter.

XP will automatically rename all the files (1), (2), (3), etc. and they will
open in the order (1), (2), (3), etc.



Two important things when renaming using the above method.

1. Look at the name of the above file, you must include a space between the
last character of the file name and (1)

2. When you rename, don't forget to add .jpg after (1). If you forget, XP
will warn you, so enter .jpg after this warning. If you don't, you will not
be able to open the file. If you still do not enter .jpg after the warning,
don't worry. Rename again and enter .jpg



You can rename any time and as many times as you want. You are not dependent
on the camera wizard to rename.

You can rename portions of files in a folder, just select the group you want
and right click on the first one and rename from there.



You can do even better than this. Suppose you want a slide show and you want
the last three pictures taken to be the first three or in between some other
photos. Easy to do. Open the folder in thumbnail view, use your mouse to
place them in the order you want. Select all the photos and rename. The (1),
(2), (3), etc will be added in the order you placed the thumbnails.

Convenient if you want to make a slide show of pictures from different
folders. Just make a new folder, copy the photos you want in the new folder,
place the thumbnails in the order you want and rename.

You are not restricted to only one name and you can control the order in
which each group will open, by placing a number up front of the file name
for each group. You may have photos of Christmas, Easter, New Year etc. and
of different years. Once you have the thumbnails in the order you want,
select the first group, right click on the first thumbnail in the group and
rename:

1_2002 Easter (1).jpg

Then select the second group and rename

2_2002 Christmas (1).jpg

Placing 1_, 2_, etc in front will control the order of each group and (1)
controls the order within each group.

If you want to add another group later and you want these photos to be, say
between 1_ and 2_, use 1a_ in front of the file name.

You may also want to add some more photos in a particular group, say your
Christmas group. No problem. Copy the files in the folder, move the
thumbnails in the group you want to add them to. Select all the thumbnails
in the group, right click on the first one and rename. When you rename, you
must change the name in order for rename to take place. Add something like
XYZ after Christmas. Once renaming is done, select the same files again and
rename again. Remove the XYZ and you will be back to the original name.



Note: There is a disadvantage to changing the original name of files. This
is why I recommend at the start to make a new folder and copy your original
files in the new folder before renaming. The disadvantage is this. Many have
the option of video out from the camera to display the pictures from the
memory card to a TV for a slide show. If you change the file names and copy
the files back to your memory card to display on your TV (or even to just
look at them on the LCD of the camera) your camera will not be able to read
the files. You can always rename, using the same format (8 characters) that
your camera uses, but now you have to rename each file. So, be careful what
you do with your original files.



Note: Although I recommend making a new folder and copying your files there
before renaming, there is also another way to do this and you may prefer
this once you are comfortable with renaming. Here is how to do it.

Open the folder to see your files. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the
letter A to select (highlight in blue) all the files. Hold the Ctrl key down
and press the letter C. This makes a copy of all the files to your
clipboard. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter V. This copies
(pastes) all the files back in your folder. The file names will be the same,
but the words "Copy of" will be in front of the file names. You then rename
Copy of files.

This way your original files and renamed files are in the same folder.

This is also very useful when you want to edit a photo with software. You
always edit "Copy of", never edit your original file.
 
Yves said:
You can always use the old idiotic 001,
002 etc. but you can't batch rename this
way with XP.
===================================
You can do this with IrfanView and unlike
XP...you can retain your original file names.

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John Inzer
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Yes, with Irfan View. But not XP and XP is a lot easier to use when
arranging thumbnails in the order you want in a large folder and then
renaming groups of files. If you want to keep the original name, you simply
copy them and then rename Copy of. The fact that XP does not let you use the
old system is a pain and the KB article about how XP changed reading numbers
in file names is utterly confusing. So we are stuck. At this time neither
system works well.
 
Yves Alarie said:
Yes, with Irfan View. But not XP and XP is
a lot easier to use when arranging thumbnails
in the order you want in a large folder and then
renaming groups of files.
================================
OK...but it doesn't seem that hard to arrange
the files in IrfanView. You can preview an image
and move it to any position you like.

I guess I just don't like all my images to have the
same name.

Birthday Party (1).jpg
Birthday Party (2).jpg
Birthday Party (3).jpg

I prefer something like this.

The Big Cake 0001.jpg
The Candles 0002.jpg
Birthday Boy 0003.jpg

Not only that but this numbering style is more
universally recognized in various programs.

To each his own :o)

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John Inzer
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Fully agree with you, the old idiotic system is more universally recognized,
for the simple reason that it started that way. Why then does XP changes
the system? The old system was idiotic.
It would seem that naming and listing (sorting) of files is "basic" to any
OS system. Why do we have to get some additional software to batch rename
files?
The OS should give you this. This is basic
So XP has introduced the better system, but we suffer when we use it, going
outside of XP. But at one point, everything will converge toward the
sensible system that XP has introduced. You start at 1, not 01 or 001 or
0001. When did people start counting at 01?
The old system was OK for DOS and we had 8 characters for file name. Glad XP
decided to ditch it and starts counting at 1 like people do.

Also your naming system will not work.
You photos will not open in the order 0001, 0002, 0003 as you have them
named. Here is the way they will be listed:

Birthday Boy 0003.jpg
The Big Cake 0001.jpg
The Candles 0002.jpg

For your system to work, the names would have to be:
0001 The big cake
0002 The candles
0003 Birthday boy

BUT you can't do this batch renaming with XP, or with Irfanview or any
other renaming software. Irfanview places the number at the end of the file
name, not the beginning.

So you have to rename each file by hand. Pure pain.

I can't see myself renaming each file in a folder containing 100 files from
a vacation. But I can batch group rename them with XP and at the same time
renaming them and placing them in order in thumbnail view and then get them
to open in the order I want. Very easy and fast to do this with XP.

And there is still a way to use XP to rename and keep everything compatible
with the old system. Keep everything under 10. So batch rename groups from 1
up to 9 and files in groups from 1 up to 9. So It would go this way but
would be limited to 99 photos or less.

1_2003_Arriving at Virginia Beach (1).jpg to (9)
2_2003_Good Looking girls on the beach (1).jpg to (9)
3_2003_More Good Looking girls (1). jpg to (9)
4_2003_The last good looking girl (1).jpg
etc. up to
9_2003_Back from Virginia Beach (1).jpg to (6)


HeHe. Found the way to keep the good looking girls in order, no matter if
using the old or new sorting system, they will be listed in the same order.
Desire is the mother of invention, not necessity. As usual, have fun.
 
Hi Yves,

I see no reason to argue over the shortcomings
of WinXP. I simply prefer the options that IrfanView
offers.

I agree, I should have placed the numbers first,
(sometimes my old dried up brain cannot keep
up with my lightning fast typing skills)

IrfanView can place the numbers in front of the
original file names.

All you have to do is go to...Set Rename Options,
and enter...#### $...in the "Name Pattern" field.

#### gives you 4 digits and $ gives you the original
file name. Pretty neat...huh? Much easier than trying
to fight with WinXP.

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John Inzer
Picture It! MVP
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Well now, this is something I have not tried with Irfanview. But still you
can't batch process with individual names regardless of the number being in
front or back. I am stubborn. No doubt about it. I will get what I want out
of XP, come hell or high water--never mind the good looking girls files on
the beach!
I finally broke down and ordered a DVD burner from LaCie. Comes with great
software for photos and video. We shall see.
Tomorrow is Christmas shopping!
 
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