Gordon Bennet, youse two remind of them two fellas in the opera box in The Muppets
Times change, some things get better, some get worse but as a lot of folk are born grumps and cynics they tend to see only the bad side of what's going down.
I was born at the start of the fifties and I'm glad things changed, all that 'respect your elders' enforced religion and expectation that you'd respect a person cos they're older or supposedly superior to you - wottalotta cobblers
My generation - the 'baby boomers' as they're known - were possibly the first to challenge the plummy English lifestyle and did largely change things. The Sixties were a new age and I can remember a definite sense of optimism though that may just have been cos I was a teenager of course, I'm not sure. Or possibly the drugs, lol
The state of our nation - and I'll concur things could be better - is not all home grown, the greater part of things are shaped by external forces, not least our forelock-tugging to the USA and, of course, our EU membership.
Funny thing is, when we were first invited to joinn the Common Market (as it was then known) we turned it down, which was pretty stupid as it probably would have been advantageous then. So we joined years later just as the rot was setting in. Then in later years they let all the riff raff in and from what I can see our membership is costing us money now.
As for politics I'll agree all parties are now just different shades of blue (except, perhaps, for the Greenies who imo are all nutters) & also imo the rot started when Blair became Prime Minister and as a lifelong Labour voter it pains me to say that but I think it's true. Tony Blair was as much a Labour Party Member as Stalin would have been, the actions him and his party carried out in their long and painful tenure were atrocious.
And now we have the nurgle twins, the double c's Cameron & Clegg, what a win double. Their actions make Blair look like a kindly Teddy Bear.
Anyhow, for those who think everything's gone to pot, it ain't neccessarily so, remember the past always looks better viewed with rose tinted glasses so all you ageing Teddy Boys get a balanced view and remember that ripping up cinema seats and having running gang fights down the Edgware Road was probably worse than what the
majority of youngsters get up to now.
EDIT: I've just realised I've spouted a lot of personal political views, don't want to start a ruck so please remember it is just my opinion and as such is pretty much worthless in the general scheme of things so please don't take umbrage at any of my comments