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Husky
Very very soon. Before you dump big bux into a NEW ATX that will be old in just
a few weeks, do some shopping around looking at BTX.
a few weeks, do some shopping around looking at BTX.
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HarryKrause
Husky said:
Should we hold out for XTX, due out in 2073?
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Matt U.K.
LOL
HarryKrause said:
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rstlne
Husky said:
Please get in contact with me as soon as possible..
I would love some of this intel money coming my way too..
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Stephan Grossklass
No way! AFAIK the concept does not allow efficient harddrive cooling
and, more importantly, the component placement makes it impossible to
get the memory close enough to the CPU for AMD (Hammer) based systems
(integrated memory controller, remember?).
Stephan
and, more importantly, the component placement makes it impossible to
get the memory close enough to the CPU for AMD (Hammer) based systems
(integrated memory controller, remember?).
Stephan
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Husky
Do what you want. BTX is due out in a few weeks. Nvidia, ATI and several other
companies have already geared up for it.
Look at it this way, you have the choice of win 98, or Windows Vista. You
choose 98, because it's already available. This time next year you can restock
at every yard sale in town. But you'll be 10-xx years behind the technology
that's fixing to open in just a few weeks.
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Robert Hancock
Husky said:
I think that BTX is far from the clear way forward. Support from the
industry is looking rather lackluster at the moment..
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HarryKrause
Robert said:
A new form factor and better cooling for some components on the bleeding
edge? I'm not sure that is where the bottleneck is. It's still hard drives.
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wdg
What I find surprising, if not shocking, is the large number of people I
know still running old clunker machines and W98. Win98 may have been the
best there was to offer on the win 9x platform, but you have to wonder
about people still plodding along with a literal army of PII/400 machines,
especially when they're using PIII/1000 and P4 machines all day at work.
Going home at the end of the day must be like entering a time warp.
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Old Bugger
BTX has been coming for at least two years. It was June 2003 that I saw a prototype BTX case.
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Husky
It's all about throwing out OLD software and replacing the SAME software with
the SAME program that worked on 98, but is now just a boat anchor.
Software is normally the largest investment. Backwards compatibility is
normally a pipe dream especially for the expensive commercial stuff.
You can get a new system under $2k. Replace $3000.00 in software for $5000.00
But if you're moving into the future with the tech, you need to seriously
consider BTX vs ATX.
Smaller cases, smaller desktop footprint, quieter, cooler etc.. ad infinitum.
Nvidia PCI Express $599.00. Maybe for some graphics business, but not normal
home usage.
Check out what Seagate's doing with HD storage now.
250 gig on a 1.8 inch drive. That's available now.
Mad Dog has the power supplies for ATX/BTX crossover.
Cases will be out in a few weeks.
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Husky
8 years to be more precise. But the cases are no longer prototypes. Production
just needs to get rolling.
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HarryKrause
Husky said:
I don't really give a darn about smaller cases, or a smaller desktop
footprint. I keep my tower and mini-tower on the floor next to a
workdesk. They take up zero desk space. And they're not noisy, either.
So, are there any real technical advantages to BTX?
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John Lewis
Husky, please elucidate the technical virtues of BTX, other than
keeping Intel blazing-inferno-dual-core CPUs cooler. Doesn't help
cool the video card partly in the path of the hot exhaust air from the
CPU block. BTX benefit to Intel 100%; benefit to the purchaser trying
to put an efficient air-cooled performance-system together is -100%
Over to you.............
John Lewis
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Michael W. Ryder
wdg@ said:
What's wrong with that? I run a 3.4 GHz P4 at work and use it to its
limits, but at home a K6-2 400 was fine for the games and modem access I
used. When the K6-2 died I replaced it with a 2 GHz P4 with Windows
2000 and noticed no real difference in the older games. With the
Chronicles of Riddick the extra power was necessary, but till then I
didn't need it.
I'm still using a NEC 4D at home that is over 10 years old because I
haven't found a newer monitor that is enough better to spend the money on.
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Dragoncarer
Husky said:
Uhm...Vista won't be out for...well...a long time.
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tk
John Lewis said:
I just googled BTX form factor myself out of curiosity and it the main
benefits I can
determine are Better cooling for processor by standardizing where the
processor has to
be and it is slightly larger (biggest BTX board) and dumps legacy
ports/slots.
In other words not needed if you already have a Good tower. My case sits at
26 -28 C,
plenty cool.
Here is a great link for more technical info:
http://www.formfactors.org/
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HarryKrause
tk said:
I read that, too, and I don't see what the big deal is with BTX. In
fact, it looks like not much of a deal at all.
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news-west.usenet.com
the only reason Intel came up with BTX is the p4 chips run hotter then nuclear
reactors. as such its not needed for any AMD based systems.
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Joe Bleaux
I read that, too, and I don't see what the big deal is with BTX. In
fact, it looks like not much of a deal at all.
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No, you're wrong. It's a very big deal. BTX let's the computer
industry sell everyone new cases, motherboards, PSU's, etc. all over
again.
Joe