bootable DOS file browser for FAT32

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Does anyone know of a file browser that you can run under DOS (booting from
a floppy or CD-ROM) that will allow you to view, copy and move files on a
win98 fat32 drive, with long filename capability? I thought there would
have been a lot to choose from but I can't seem to find any. Any
suggestions apprec...

pls reply to: radio22222 (at) msn (dot) com
 
*a wrote in said:
Does anyone know of a file browser that you can run under DOS (booting from
a floppy or CD-ROM) that will allow you to view, copy and move files on a
win98 fat32 drive, with long filename capability?
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See the FileManger pages at <http://members.cox.net/dos/>
A section dedicated to FMs that can handle Long-File-Names (LFNs)
under Win9x <http://members.cox.net/dos/fileman.htm#fmwin9x>.
If some of the download/homepage links are broken on that site,
google <http://www.google.com> for the program name and/or author.

Create your own bootdisk and put the FM of your choice on it.

# tip - see also: #

The Softpanorama University - Orthodox File Managers Site
<http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml>

Interesting DOS programs <http://www.opus.co.tt/dave>

File Manager Commanders <http://www.rmonet.com/commander/>

# If you need a bootdisk, see:#

BootDisks.com <http://www.bootdisk.com>

The Village Idiot's Boot Disks <http://drd.dyndns.org/disks.html>

The Ultimate Boot Disk <http://www.startdisk.com>

PowerLoad's Resource Pages - BootDisk Project
<http://www.oldstuff.myagora.net/powerload/bootdisk.htm>

# If you want (to make) a bootCD, have a look at: #

Ultimate Boot CD: <http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/>
(no File Manager included on the CD as is,
but the site offer instructions on how you
can include your own floppy/ies)

The 911 Rescue CD <http://www.911cd.net>

Bart's Boot disks <http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/>


All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Does anyone know of a file browser that you can run under DOS (booting from
a floppy or CD-ROM) that will allow you to view, copy and move files on a
win98 fat32 drive, with long filename capability? I thought there would
have been a lot to choose from but I can't seem to find any. Any
suggestions apprec...
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It is my understanding that LFNs do not exist in DOS. The only exist
in Windows e.g. a win-dos-box.

Someone will correct me if i'm wrong.
 
Vic Dura said:
It is my understanding that LFNs do not exist in DOS. The only exist
in Windows e.g. a win-dos-box.

Someone will correct me if i'm wrong.
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They're not supported natively, however you can use 3rd party software
such as LFN Tools (However these are replacement LFN enabled
dos commands, not a browser)

see -
http://www.odi.ch/prog/lfn/index.php
 
*a said:
Does anyone know of a file browser that you can run under DOS
(booting from a floppy or CD-ROM) that will allow you to view,
copy and move files on a win98 fat32 drive, with long filename
capability? I thought there would have been a lot to choose from
but I can't seem to find any. Any suggestions apprec...
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Apart from Bjorn's very thorough answer, I have one more option-

Emergency Boot CD

The beauty of this, in your case, is that it comes with a file manager
(Volkov Commander).

http://www.t4k.org/~ebcd/
 
bambam said:
Apart from Bjorn's very thorough answer, I have one more option-

Emergency Boot CD

The beauty of this, in your case, is that it comes with a file manager
(Volkov Commander).

http://www.t4k.org/~ebcd/
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But bambam, Volkov Commander is shareware, NOT freeware:

http://www.egner-online.de/vc/register.txt

The beta version can be "tested for free", but I'm not sure if it's
buggy or time-limited possibly.

Am I missing something here?

--
Regards from John Corliss
alt.comp.freeware F.A.Q.:
http://www.ccountry.net/~jcorliss/F.A.Q./FrameSet1.html
Note that I can't see any of Andy Mabbett's troll posts
because I have him killfiled.
 
*a said:
Does anyone know of a file browser that you can run under DOS
(booting from a floppy or CD-ROM) that will allow you to view, copy
and move files on a win98 fat32 drive, with long filename capability?
I thought there would have been a lot to choose from but I can't seem
to find any. Any suggestions apprec...

pls reply to: radio22222 (at) msn (dot) com
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Look on an old Ms DOS version 5 or 6 disk and you will find DosShell.exe or
..com It will do what you want.
Regds
Trevor
 
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A slightly related issue that someone might have an answer to. I have
a very old computer hard drive with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on.

(A) Can I assume it is FAT16 ? Or could it be FAT32 ?

(B) If Fat16 then am I right in assuming that no filenames can be
longer than the 8.3 character combination ?

(C) If it could be either then where in 3.11 would I be able to find
out which it is ?

Regards, John.
 
John Fitzsimons <[email protected]> wrote:
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A slightly related issue that someone might have an answer to. I have
a very old computer hard drive with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on.
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(A) Can I assume it is FAT16 ? Or could it be FAT32 ?

(B) If Fat16 then am I right in assuming that no filenames can be
longer than the 8.3 character combination ?
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http://www.karbosguide.com/hardware/module6a6.htm

"You can store long file names in Windows 95/98, which uses the VFAT
file system. That is a 32 bit edition of FAT. VFAT was introduced with
Windows 3.11, but the long file names did not become available until
Windows 95."

(C) If it could be either then where in 3.11 would I be able to find
out which it is ?
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?
 
But bambam, Volkov Commander is shareware, NOT freeware:

http://www.egner-online.de/vc/register.txt

The beta version can be "tested for free", but I'm not sure if
it's buggy or time-limited possibly.

Am I missing something here?
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No, I don't think you are missing anything John, I think I might have
though. :(
I have been using Emergency Boot CD (EBCD) for a while now, and was
under the impression that it was freeware. Since reading your post I
have done a bit of study and can find no hard evidence to support
this.
I have emailed the authors of both Emergency Boot CD and Volkov
Commander asking for any clarification they can provide.

I apologise to the group and withdraw my recommendation.
 
A slightly related issue that someone might have an answer to. I have
a very old computer hard drive with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on.

(A) Can I assume it is FAT16 ? Or could it be FAT32 ?
Click to expand...

Yeah, FAT16 only.
(B) If Fat16 then am I right in assuming that no filenames can be
longer than the 8.3 character combination ?
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That is true for Windows 3.x and (AFAIK) all versions of MSDOS.
(C) If it could be either then where in 3.11 would I be able to find
out which it is ?
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n/a.
 
IIRC it is Fat 16 by default, but could be 32 if initially setup that
way. AFTER the fact, I don't know where in 3.11 to find out that info
since I haven't used 3.11 for sometime. Here's some info you probably
already know, but here it is:




http://www.stiller.com/bigdisk.htm
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Wow ! Some worthwhile info and links there. Thanks.

One page that I found as a result of the above looks very handy :

http://www.oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/index.htm

It also has a ;

"Windows 98 Critical Updates & Patches Page "

that might interest some others here.

Regards, John.
 
Not true, Win 3.1 required DOS. DOS 6.22 supported fat32.
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No it does NOT. I used Win3.1 for a long time and I should know! Fat32
came in with Windows 9x. (Win95, IIRC) DOS 6.22 predates Win9x.
 
http://www.karbosguide.com/hardware/module6a6.htm

"You can store long file names in Windows 95/98, which uses the VFAT
file system. That is a 32 bit edition of FAT. VFAT was introduced with
Windows 3.11, but the long file names did not become available until
Windows 95."
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I suspect that the author is confusing 32-bit file access, which was
available under Windows 3.11 for Workgroups, and VFAT, which wasn't.

It's also incorrect to call VFAT a "32-bit edition of FAT". That would
be FAT-32, which was introduced in Windows 98SE, I believe. VFAT
permitted long file names, but was still limited to a 16-bit FAT.
 
Yves Bellefeuille said:
I suspect that the author is confusing 32-bit file access, which was
available under Windows 3.11 for Workgroups, and VFAT, which wasn't.

It's also incorrect to call VFAT a "32-bit edition of FAT". That would
be FAT-32, which was introduced in Windows 98SE, I believe. VFAT
permitted long file names, but was still limited to a 16-bit FAT.
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Yves is correct ... too many people are confused in error by the terms of
32-bit and FAT-32 .... two totally separate premises and unreleated to one
another. In addition to this thread, several of us will remember that Win
3.11
was upgradeable to Win32, which provided Win 3.11 with some true 32-bit
access to many programs until Win 95(b) came along to supplant Win 3.11
 
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