boot.ini question

  • Thread starter Thread starter Peter Kaufman
  • Start date Start date
P

Peter Kaufman

Hi,

I've got a situation with 2 installs of XP in the same computer, each
on the first partition of the master drive of both controllers. I'm
having trouble editing boot.ini so both are available. None of the
parameters - multi, rdisk, etc seem to select the controller.

Any tips on how to do this?

Thanks,

Peter Kaufman MCP
 
If I'm reading you right...

[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\winnt="Windows XP, disk controller 1"
multi(1)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\winnt="Windows XP, disk controller 2"
 
Dear Peter,

Thank you for your post and for Gerry's suggestion.

If possible, I highly recommend that you connect these two disks on the
first controller. Theoretically, we can use Boot.ini file start Windows
systems on any drive in the system. However, this would require that all
drives are correctly identified through the standard INT 13 interface;
since support for this varies from disk controller to disk controller and
most system BIOS only identify a single disk controller through INT 13, in
practice it is only safe to start Windows systems from the first two drives
connected to the primary disk controller, or the first four drives in the
case of a dual-channel EIDE controller.

If both hard disks are connected to the first IDE controller, we can try
the following boot.ini file:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional, AAA" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional, BBB" /fastdetect

Analysis:
------------------

The following are generic examples of two possible BOOT.INI ARC paths:

multi(X)disk(Y)rdisk(Z)partition(W)\<winnt_dir>

The X, Y, Z, and W parameters have the following meaning:

- X is the ordinal number of the adapter and should always be 0. (This is
why I suggested that you connect the two disks to the first controller in
the beginning of this post.)

- Y is always 0 (zero) if the ARC path starts with MULTI(), because MULTI()
invokes the INT 13 call as described above and therefore does not need the
DISK() parameter information.

- Z is the ordinal for the disk on the adapter and is usually a number
between 0 and 3.

- W is the partition number. All partitions receive a number except for
type 5 (MS-DOS Extended) and type 0 (unused) partitions, with primary
partitions being numbered first and then logical drives. NOTE: The first
valid number for W is 1, as opposed to X, Y, and Z which start at 0 (zero).


I hope the above information helps. Thank you for using our news groups!

Regards,
Joe Wu
Product Support Services
Microsoft Corporation

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

====================================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
====================================================
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
|From: Peter Kaufman <[email protected]>
|Subject: boot.ini question
|Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:29:29 +0700
|Message-ID: <[email protected]>
|X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
|MIME-Version: 1.0
|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.147.59.165
|Lines: 1
|Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
|Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:350900
|X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|
|Hi,
|
|I've got a situation with 2 installs of XP in the same computer, each
|on the first partition of the master drive of both controllers. I'm
|having trouble editing boot.ini so both are available. None of the
|parameters - multi, rdisk, etc seem to select the controller.
|
|Any tips on how to do this?
|
|Thanks,
|
|Peter Kaufman MCP
|
 
Gerry, thanks, but it is clearly stated in the kb that multi and disk
are always 0 for IDE.

Joe, thanks and I will go with your suggestion.


Peter Kaufman MCP
 
You are very welcome. Thank you for using our news groups!

Regards,
Joe Wu
Product Support Services
Microsoft Corporation

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

====================================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
====================================================
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
|From: Peter Kaufman <[email protected]>
|Subject: Re: boot.ini question
|Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:25:21 +0700
|Message-ID: <[email protected]>
|References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
|X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572
|MIME-Version: 1.0
|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.147.59.11
|Lines: 1
|Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
|Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:351224
|X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|
|Gerry, thanks, but it is clearly stated in the kb that multi and disk
|are always 0 for IDE.
|
|Joe, thanks and I will go with your suggestion.
|
|
|Peter Kaufman MCP
|
 
Joe,

One problem - when I tried to run regedit from the recovery console, I
got an error that the command was not found, and to type HELP at a
prompt for a list of supported commands. I was definitely in the right
directory.

I decided to reinstall rather than move the HDD to another computer,
but this should be clarified for the archives. Are you positive
regedit can be run from the Recovery Console prompt?

Peter Kaufman MCP
 
Hello Peter,

Thank you for your post.

Is this a new issue? If so, may I know the history of this problem?

We cannot edit registry in Recovery Console. Actually, the commonly used
method is to connect the disk to another computer, or install a dual boot
system, and then load hives in another system.

We can also use another method:

1. In Recovery Console, backup the current registry hive files, software
and system (no file extensions), in Windows\system32\config folder. (For
example, we can rename them to softwareold and systemold).
2. Replace the existing registry hive files with their backups which were
automatically created after the system was installed. (The backup hives are
saved in WINDOWS\REPAIR folder.)
3. Boot the system. (Many applications and devices may not work due to the
lack of registry information.)
4. Load hives (systemold or softwareold) and make changes.
5. In Recovery Console, restore the registry hive files from systemold and
softwareold (which have been edited).

However, the above steps are a bit complicated. If possible, I still
suggest that you connect the hard disk to another system and edit the
registry hives there. I believe this should be more efficient and safer.

Please let me know if anything is unclear. Thanks!

Regards,
Joe Wu
Product Support Services
Microsoft Corporation

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

====================================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
====================================================
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
|From: Peter Kaufman <[email protected]>
|Subject: Re: boot.ini question
|Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:06:03 +0700
|Message-ID: <[email protected]>
|References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<rVpGU#[email protected]>
|X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
|MIME-Version: 1.0
|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.147.59.24
|Lines: 1
|Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
|Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:353118
|X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|
|Joe,
|
|One problem - when I tried to run regedit from the recovery console, I
|got an error that the command was not found, and to type HELP at a
|prompt for a list of supported commands. I was definitely in the right
|directory.
|
|I decided to reinstall rather than move the HDD to another computer,
|but this should be clarified for the archives. Are you positive
|regedit can be run from the Recovery Console prompt?
|
|Peter Kaufman MCP
|
|On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:18:59 GMT, (e-mail address removed) (Joe Wu
|[MSFT]) wrote:
|
|>
|>|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|>|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|>|Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|>|NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.147.59.11
|>|Lines: 1
|>|Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
|>|Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
|>microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:351224
|>|X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|>|
|>|Gerry, thanks, but it is clearly stated in the kb that multi and disk
|>|are always 0 for IDE.
|>|
|>|Joe, thanks and I will go with your suggestion.
|>|
|>|
|>|Peter Kaufman MCP
|>|
|
|
 
Dear Emeric,

Thank you for your post.

The FSMO roles placement will not be changed if you install a second domain
contorller in the existing domain. Actually, we can use several methods
(MMC Snap-Ins, Resource Kit tool Dumpfsmos.cmd, NTDSUTIL or DCDIAG). For
detailed steps, please refer to the following Knowledge Base article:

234790 HOW TO: Find Servers That Hold Flexible Single Master Operations
Roles
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=234790

Meanwhile, there are some general recommendations for FSMO placement:

1. Place the RID and PDC emulator roles on the same domain controller.

2. As a general rule, the infrastructure master should be located on a
nonglobal catalog server that has a direct connection object to some global
catalog in the forest, preferably in the same Active Directory site.
Because the global catalog server holds a partial replica of every object
in the forest, the infrastructure master, if placed on a global catalog
server, will never update anything, because it does not contain any
references to objects that it does not hold.

Two exceptions to the "do not place the infrastructure master on a global
catalog server" rule are:

2.1) Single domain forest: In a forest that contains a single Active
Directory domain.
2.2) Multidomain forest where every domain controller holds the global
catalog.

3. At the forest level, the schema master and domain naming master roles
should be placed on the same domain controller as they are rarely used and
should be tightly controlled. Additionally, the domain naming master FSMO
should also be a global catalog server.

I hope the above information helps. Thank you for using our news groups!

Regards,
Joe Wu
Product Support Services
Microsoft Corporation

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

====================================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
====================================================
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
|From: Peter Kaufman <[email protected]>
|Subject: Re: boot.ini question
|Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:06:03 +0700
|Message-ID: <[email protected]>
|References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<rVpGU#[email protected]>
|X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
|MIME-Version: 1.0
|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.147.59.24
|Lines: 1
|Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
|Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:353118
|X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|
|Joe,
|
|One problem - when I tried to run regedit from the recovery console, I
|got an error that the command was not found, and to type HELP at a
|prompt for a list of supported commands. I was definitely in the right
|directory.
|
|I decided to reinstall rather than move the HDD to another computer,
|but this should be clarified for the archives. Are you positive
|regedit can be run from the Recovery Console prompt?
|
|Peter Kaufman MCP
|
|On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:18:59 GMT, (e-mail address removed) (Joe Wu
|[MSFT]) wrote:
|
|>
|>|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|>|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|>|Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|>|NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.147.59.11
|>|Lines: 1
|>|Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
|>|Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
|>microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:351224
|>|X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
|>|
|>|Gerry, thanks, but it is clearly stated in the kb that multi and disk
|>|are always 0 for IDE.
|>|
|>|Joe, thanks and I will go with your suggestion.
|>|
|>|
|>|Peter Kaufman MCP
|>|
|
|
 
Back
Top