Bluetooth question

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Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is bluetooth capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but everything I can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find any info on
XP sp3, which I am using.

Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?

This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."

I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
 
Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is bluetooth capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but everything I can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find any info on
XP sp3, which I am using.

Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?

This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."

I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...

Do you have to plug a "dongle" into usb socket ?
 
Jim said:
Do you have to plug a "dongle" into usb socket ?
Click to expand...

Well,that's one way of achieving what you want.A cheap Bluetooth Dongle
will only set you back about a tenner.The Dongle will come with it's own
software.

Bod
 
Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks like XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3 (which was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's built in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?
 
Hello,

For Bluetooth functionality in XP to work, you need to have a Bluetooth
hardware connected to it. This is usually achieved by a USB device (e.g [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BluetoothUSB.jpg ] ). Some laptop come
with Bluetooth already built-in.

The question we are asking was, do you have such Bluetooth hardware
capability in your system either via USB or built-in? If you don't, you need
to purchase a USB Bluetooth dongle in order to use XP's Bluetooth software.

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
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I'm open to anything if XP will not work with this on its own, I'm just
curious as to why SP2 would be Bluetooth compatible, and not SP3 - and more
importantly, if I can get it working directly with XP SP3.
 
Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks like XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3 (which was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's built in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?
Click to expand...

Every "newer" version of the service pack (SP) will contain all
previous versions of service packs. Therefore, SP3 will have all the
updates since the release of SP2, along with every update that SP2
had, including the "lamed" Bluetooth system.

In order to use Bluetooth, besides having Windows XP SP2 as a minimum,
you need a Bluetooth adapter (aka dongle.) Most desktop PCs do not
have this. Several laptops also do not such a device.

Also, you must know that Microsoft has no certification of Bluetooth
functions. The built-in XP SP2 Bluetooth is extremely limited to
Bluetooth serial ports, Bluetooth dial-up modem and Bluetooth Personal
Area Network (PAN.)
 
I'm open to anything if XP will not work with this on its own, I'm just
curious as to why SP2 would be Bluetooth compatible, and not SP3 - and more
importantly, if I can get it working directly with XP SP3.
Click to expand...

Please also read the other part of this thread.

SP3 has all updates after the first release of SP2, including SP2.
SP2 contains all updates released after SP1(a) was made, including the
updates including SP1(a)

Therefore, SP3 will / should contain the Bluetooth protocol that was
delivered with SP2. However, Microsoft's Bluetooth is extremely
limited.
 
Hi,

I think this addresses part of my issue, as I do not have any Bluetooth
hardware connected. I assumed that part of the functionality of Bluetooth was
being wireless, and thought I could use my existing wireless network to see
my Bluetooth enabled phone, using the built in Bluetooth functionality of XP.
I guess the technology just hasn't caught up to the rest of the world yet!

I'm guessing that someone offers a 3rd party software/program that does just
this, and will have to start looking in that direction.

Was'nt the whole attraction to Bluetooth that it was a way to connect and
manage files wirelessly?


--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Singapore Computer Service said:
Hello,

For Bluetooth functionality in XP to work, you need to have a Bluetooth
hardware connected to it. This is usually achieved by a USB device (e.g [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BluetoothUSB.jpg ] ). Some laptop come
with Bluetooth already built-in.

The question we are asking was, do you have such Bluetooth hardware
capability in your system either via USB or built-in? If you don't, you need
to purchase a USB Bluetooth dongle in order to use XP's Bluetooth software.

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
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Click to expand...
 
Thanks, that addressed my issue also.

It looks like an added peice of hardware (dongle) is the missing link here,
and most likely the drivers associated with it. Kinda takes the functionality
out of the wireless conveniance of Bluetooth!


--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


smlunatick said:
Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks like XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3 (which was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's built in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?

--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"

Singapore Computer Service said:
Hello,
Click to expand...
Does your system have Bluetooth capability or a USB device which provides
this feature? If yes, have you installed the drivers that came with the
Bluetooth device?
Click to expand...
Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
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Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is bluetooth
capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but everything I
can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find any info
on
XP sp3, which I am using.
Click to expand...
Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?
Click to expand...
This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259
Click to expand...
states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."
Click to expand...
I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Every "newer" version of the service pack (SP) will contain all
previous versions of service packs. Therefore, SP3 will have all the
updates since the release of SP2, along with every update that SP2
had, including the "lamed" Bluetooth system.

In order to use Bluetooth, besides having Windows XP SP2 as a minimum,
you need a Bluetooth adapter (aka dongle.) Most desktop PCs do not
have this. Several laptops also do not such a device.

Also, you must know that Microsoft has no certification of Bluetooth
functions. The built-in XP SP2 Bluetooth is extremely limited to
Bluetooth serial ports, Bluetooth dial-up modem and Bluetooth Personal
Area Network (PAN.)
Click to expand...
 
Vgolfmaster said:
Hi,

I think this addresses part of my issue, as I do not have any Bluetooth
hardware connected. I assumed that part of the functionality of Bluetooth
was
being wireless, and thought I could use my existing wireless network
Click to expand...

Ethernet adapters, wired or wireless, are not Bluetooth adapters.
to see
my Bluetooth enabled phone, using the built in Bluetooth functionality of
XP.
Click to expand...

XP does not include hardware. If your PC does not have a bluetooth
adapter, you can't use bluetooth functions.
I guess the technology just hasn't caught up to the rest of the world yet!
Click to expand...

I suggest that you misunderstand the minimum requirements of the technology.
I'm guessing that someone offers a 3rd party software/program that does
just
this, and will have to start looking in that direction.
Click to expand...

You're guessing wrong. Hardware is required.
Was'nt the whole attraction to Bluetooth that it was a way to connect and
manage files wirelessly?
Click to expand...

Yes, but it has always required both hardware and software. The bluetooth
radio is a separate hardware product.

Here's another statement of the situation: AM/FM radios do not pick up
shortwave broadcasts. The fact that an AM/FM radio is a wireless receiver
is not enough.

If you have an AM/FM radio and you want to listen to shortwave, you have to
get a shortwave-capable radio.

HTH
-pk
--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Singapore Computer Service said:
Hello,

For Bluetooth functionality in XP to work, you need to have a Bluetooth
hardware connected to it. This is usually achieved by a USB device (e.g [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BluetoothUSB.jpg ] ). Some laptop come
with Bluetooth already built-in.

The question we are asking was, do you have such Bluetooth hardware
capability in your system either via USB or built-in? If you don't, you
need
to purchase a USB Bluetooth dongle in order to use XP's Bluetooth
software.

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
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Vgolfmaster said:
Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks
like
XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3 (which
was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's
built
in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?

--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


:

Hello,

Does your system have Bluetooth capability or a USB device which
provides
this feature? If yes, have you installed the drivers that came with
the
Bluetooth device?

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
Video Conversion VHS Video8 Hi8 Digital8 MiniDv MicroMv
http://www.bootstrike.com/VHSVideoConvert/
Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is bluetooth
capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but
everything
I
can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find any
info
on
XP sp3, which I am using.

Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?

This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add
Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the
Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."

I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
PK,

I understand the technology and the need for connecting hardware to do what
I am asking. What I do not understand is why MS claims XP to be Bluetooth
compatible, when it is not. I realize this is a fairly new technology, but
you are hard pressed to find a cell phone now a days that is NOT Bluetooth
compatible. A built in feature allowing windows to configure a wireless
system to connect wirelessly to a cell phone using Bluetooth is what I was
expecting, as that is really how it was advertised. What good is this
wireless technology if you cant use it wirelessly?

I have a dongle on the way, but am a little dissapointed in XP that it cant
handle this communication on its own, as advertised. I hope they addressed
this in Win7.


--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Patrick Keenan said:
Vgolfmaster said:
Hi,

I think this addresses part of my issue, as I do not have any Bluetooth
hardware connected. I assumed that part of the functionality of Bluetooth
was
being wireless, and thought I could use my existing wireless network
Click to expand...

Ethernet adapters, wired or wireless, are not Bluetooth adapters.
to see
my Bluetooth enabled phone, using the built in Bluetooth functionality of
XP.
Click to expand...

XP does not include hardware. If your PC does not have a bluetooth
adapter, you can't use bluetooth functions.
I guess the technology just hasn't caught up to the rest of the world yet!
Click to expand...

I suggest that you misunderstand the minimum requirements of the technology.
I'm guessing that someone offers a 3rd party software/program that does
just
this, and will have to start looking in that direction.
Click to expand...

You're guessing wrong. Hardware is required.
Was'nt the whole attraction to Bluetooth that it was a way to connect and
manage files wirelessly?
Click to expand...

Yes, but it has always required both hardware and software. The bluetooth
radio is a separate hardware product.

Here's another statement of the situation: AM/FM radios do not pick up
shortwave broadcasts. The fact that an AM/FM radio is a wireless receiver
is not enough.

If you have an AM/FM radio and you want to listen to shortwave, you have to
get a shortwave-capable radio.

HTH
-pk
--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Singapore Computer Service said:
Hello,

For Bluetooth functionality in XP to work, you need to have a Bluetooth
hardware connected to it. This is usually achieved by a USB device (e.g [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BluetoothUSB.jpg ] ). Some laptop come
with Bluetooth already built-in.

The question we are asking was, do you have such Bluetooth hardware
capability in your system either via USB or built-in? If you don't, you
need
to purchase a USB Bluetooth dongle in order to use XP's Bluetooth
software.

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
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http://www.bootstrike.com/VHSVideoConvert/

Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks
like
XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3 (which
was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's
built
in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?

--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


:

Hello,

Does your system have Bluetooth capability or a USB device which
provides
this feature? If yes, have you installed the drivers that came with
the
Bluetooth device?

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
Video Conversion VHS Video8 Hi8 Digital8 MiniDv MicroMv
http://www.bootstrike.com/VHSVideoConvert/
Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is bluetooth
capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but
everything
I
can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find any
info
on
XP sp3, which I am using.

Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?

This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add
Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the
Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."

I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Vgolfmaster said:
PK,

I understand the technology and the need for connecting hardware to do
what
I am asking. What I do not understand is why MS claims XP to be Bluetooth
compatible, when it is not.
Click to expand...

It is compatible. You apparently don't understand the situation. The
correct hardware is needed. "Wireless" does not mean *any* kind of
wireless.

The situation is the same as with TCP/IP - Windows is compatible with TCP/IP
networks. But you still have to have the hardware to support it.

But your PC apparently does not *have* the required Bluetooth hardware,
consequently you can't connect external Bluetooth devices to it.

You cannot connect Bluetooth devices to Ethernet networks, and you can't
connect ethernet devices to Bluetooth networks. You cannot connect
FireWire devices to USB ports.
I realize this is a fairly new technology, but
you are hard pressed to find a cell phone now a days that is NOT Bluetooth
compatible.
Click to expand...

That's because the cellphones have Bluetooth chips installed.

Conversely, there are few PCs that have Bluetooth chips installed. Most
that do are laptops.

In any case, your PC just doesn't have the required hardware and so cannot
make use of the software support.

The "compatibility" issue is simply that you don't have the hardware.

This really isn't hard to understand.
A built in feature allowing windows to configure a wireless
system
Click to expand...

Yes - a wireless Bluetooth system.

But you don't *have* a Bluetooth system. You only have an external
Bluetooth-equipped device, and that's not a Bluetooth system.

Again, this is the same as complaining that an AM/FM radio doesn't pick up
shortwave broadcasts.
to connect wirelessly to a cell phone using Bluetooth is what I was
expecting, as that is really how it was advertised.
Click to expand...

Please show where Microsoft *ever* advertised Bluetooth support and
indicated that it did not require the PC to have Bluetooth hardware. This
is what you're claiming, after all.

Bluetooth support requires Bluetooth hardware. Windows isn't hardware.
It does, however, offer support for Bluetooth hardware you might install.

That support may not be extensive or very good, but that's another story.

Scanning is similar; Windows has offered support for scanners for some time,
but you still need to actually have a scanner. The same with TCP/IP; you
have to have a network adapter and a network to connect to. And FireWire
and USB - support is there, if the hardware is.
What good is this
wireless technology if you cant use it wirelessly?
Click to expand...

You can't use a wireless technology unless you have the appropriate wireless
hardware - at both ends.

You can't emulate a radio in software and have it actually connect to an
external device. You need the hardware.
I have a dongle on the way, but am a little dissapointed in XP that it
cant
handle this communication on its own, as advertised.
Click to expand...

I suggest that you don't understand the claims made regarding Bluetooth
support.

Hardware, which is not included in Windows, is a fundamental requirement.
I hope they addressed
this in Win7.
Click to expand...

OK, so it's quite clear, you just don't understand this.

This situation does not depend on the OS; Macs and Linux boxes have exactly
the same limitations. You have to have the appropriate hardware at both
ends, and you don't.

Hope this helps.
-pk
--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Patrick Keenan said:
Vgolfmaster said:
Hi,

I think this addresses part of my issue, as I do not have any Bluetooth
hardware connected. I assumed that part of the functionality of
Bluetooth
was
being wireless, and thought I could use my existing wireless network
Click to expand...

Ethernet adapters, wired or wireless, are not Bluetooth adapters.
to see
my Bluetooth enabled phone, using the built in Bluetooth functionality
of
XP.
Click to expand...

XP does not include hardware. If your PC does not have a bluetooth
adapter, you can't use bluetooth functions.
I guess the technology just hasn't caught up to the rest of the world
yet!
Click to expand...

I suggest that you misunderstand the minimum requirements of the
technology.
I'm guessing that someone offers a 3rd party software/program that does
just
this, and will have to start looking in that direction.
Click to expand...

You're guessing wrong. Hardware is required.
Was'nt the whole attraction to Bluetooth that it was a way to connect
and
manage files wirelessly?
Click to expand...

Yes, but it has always required both hardware and software. The
bluetooth
radio is a separate hardware product.

Here's another statement of the situation: AM/FM radios do not pick up
shortwave broadcasts. The fact that an AM/FM radio is a wireless
receiver
is not enough.

If you have an AM/FM radio and you want to listen to shortwave, you have
to
get a shortwave-capable radio.

HTH
-pk
--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


:

Hello,

For Bluetooth functionality in XP to work, you need to have a
Bluetooth
hardware connected to it. This is usually achieved by a USB device
(e.g [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BluetoothUSB.jpg ] ). Some laptop
come
with Bluetooth already built-in.

The question we are asking was, do you have such Bluetooth hardware
capability in your system either via USB or built-in? If you don't,
you
need
to purchase a USB Bluetooth dongle in order to use XP's Bluetooth
software.

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
Video Conversion VHS Video8 Hi8 Digital8 MiniDv MicroMv
http://www.bootstrike.com/VHSVideoConvert/

Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks
like
XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3
(which
was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's
built
in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?

--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


:

Hello,

Does your system have Bluetooth capability or a USB device which
provides
this feature? If yes, have you installed the drivers that came with
the
Bluetooth device?

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
http://www.bootstrike.com/ComputerService/
Video Conversion VHS Video8 Hi8 Digital8 MiniDv MicroMv
http://www.bootstrike.com/VHSVideoConvert/
message
Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is
bluetooth
capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but
everything
I
can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find
any
info
on
XP sp3, which I am using.

Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?

This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add
Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the
Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."

I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
"Please show where Microsoft *ever* advertised Bluetooth support and
indicated that it did not require the PC to have Bluetooth hardware. This
is what you're claiming, after all."

<i>"To install a Bluetooth device, you only have to connect it"</i>

No mention of extra hardware requirements. It is that far of a stretch for a
reader to question the possibility of a wireless connection for a wireless
device based on this?

<i>"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add
Bluetooth Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the
Bluetooth Devices item in Control Panel."</i>

I have no Bluetooth option in XP (sp3), maybe you might lead me in the right
direction as to why.

You can find the original article here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

And yes, it does say a Bluetooth device needs to be connected, it does NOT
however specifically say that any hardware other than the Bluetooth device is
required. You may not see how that can lead a reader into this assumption
that a wireless connection might be possible with no additional hardware, but
I unfortunately did.
--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Patrick Keenan said:
Vgolfmaster said:
PK,

I understand the technology and the need for connecting hardware to do
what
I am asking. What I do not understand is why MS claims XP to be Bluetooth
compatible, when it is not.
Click to expand...

It is compatible. You apparently don't understand the situation. The
correct hardware is needed. "Wireless" does not mean *any* kind of
wireless.

The situation is the same as with TCP/IP - Windows is compatible with TCP/IP
networks. But you still have to have the hardware to support it.

But your PC apparently does not *have* the required Bluetooth hardware,
consequently you can't connect external Bluetooth devices to it.

You cannot connect Bluetooth devices to Ethernet networks, and you can't
connect ethernet devices to Bluetooth networks. You cannot connect
FireWire devices to USB ports.
I realize this is a fairly new technology, but
you are hard pressed to find a cell phone now a days that is NOT Bluetooth
compatible.
Click to expand...

That's because the cellphones have Bluetooth chips installed.

Conversely, there are few PCs that have Bluetooth chips installed. Most
that do are laptops.

In any case, your PC just doesn't have the required hardware and so cannot
make use of the software support.

The "compatibility" issue is simply that you don't have the hardware.

This really isn't hard to understand.
A built in feature allowing windows to configure a wireless
system
Click to expand...

Yes - a wireless Bluetooth system.

But you don't *have* a Bluetooth system. You only have an external
Bluetooth-equipped device, and that's not a Bluetooth system.

Again, this is the same as complaining that an AM/FM radio doesn't pick up
shortwave broadcasts.
to connect wirelessly to a cell phone using Bluetooth is what I was
expecting, as that is really how it was advertised.
Click to expand...

Please show where Microsoft *ever* advertised Bluetooth support and
indicated that it did not require the PC to have Bluetooth hardware. This
is what you're claiming, after all.

Bluetooth support requires Bluetooth hardware. Windows isn't hardware.
It does, however, offer support for Bluetooth hardware you might install.

That support may not be extensive or very good, but that's another story.

Scanning is similar; Windows has offered support for scanners for some time,
but you still need to actually have a scanner. The same with TCP/IP; you
have to have a network adapter and a network to connect to. And FireWire
and USB - support is there, if the hardware is.
What good is this
wireless technology if you cant use it wirelessly?
Click to expand...

You can't use a wireless technology unless you have the appropriate wireless
hardware - at both ends.

You can't emulate a radio in software and have it actually connect to an
external device. You need the hardware.
I have a dongle on the way, but am a little dissapointed in XP that it
cant
handle this communication on its own, as advertised.
Click to expand...

I suggest that you don't understand the claims made regarding Bluetooth
support.

Hardware, which is not included in Windows, is a fundamental requirement.
I hope they addressed
this in Win7.
Click to expand...

OK, so it's quite clear, you just don't understand this.

This situation does not depend on the OS; Macs and Linux boxes have exactly
the same limitations. You have to have the appropriate hardware at both
ends, and you don't.

Hope this helps.
-pk
--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


Patrick Keenan said:
Hi,

I think this addresses part of my issue, as I do not have any Bluetooth
hardware connected. I assumed that part of the functionality of
Bluetooth
was
being wireless, and thought I could use my existing wireless network

Ethernet adapters, wired or wireless, are not Bluetooth adapters.

to see
my Bluetooth enabled phone, using the built in Bluetooth functionality
of
XP.

XP does not include hardware. If your PC does not have a bluetooth
adapter, you can't use bluetooth functions.

I guess the technology just hasn't caught up to the rest of the world
yet!

I suggest that you misunderstand the minimum requirements of the
technology.

I'm guessing that someone offers a 3rd party software/program that does
just
this, and will have to start looking in that direction.

You're guessing wrong. Hardware is required.

Was'nt the whole attraction to Bluetooth that it was a way to connect
and
manage files wirelessly?

Yes, but it has always required both hardware and software. The
bluetooth
radio is a separate hardware product.

Here's another statement of the situation: AM/FM radios do not pick up
shortwave broadcasts. The fact that an AM/FM radio is a wireless
receiver
is not enough.

If you have an AM/FM radio and you want to listen to shortwave, you have
to
get a shortwave-capable radio.

HTH
-pk



--
"Friends Don''t Let Friends Dial-Up"


:

Hello,

For Bluetooth functionality in XP to work, you need to have a
Bluetooth
hardware connected to it. This is usually achieved by a USB device
(e.g [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BluetoothUSB.jpg ] ). Some laptop
come
with Bluetooth already built-in.

The question we are asking was, do you have such Bluetooth hardware
capability in your system either via USB or built-in? If you don't,
you
need
to purchase a USB Bluetooth dongle in order to use XP's Bluetooth
software.

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Hi, that is the question that I am trying to get answered! It looks
like
XP
SP2 comes with Bluetooth capability built in, but I have XP SP3
(which
was
upgraded from SP2). Did the upgrade to SP3 somehow do away with XP's
built
in
Bluetooth functionality? Is there a way to restore it?

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:

Hello,

Does your system have Bluetooth capability or a USB device which
provides
this feature? If yes, have you installed the drivers that came with
the
Bluetooth device?

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Hi, I have recently purchased a Sanyo cell phone that is
bluetooth
capable. I
would like to connect it using XP on my desktop at home, but
everything
I
can
find says that XP sp2 was bluetooth compatible, and I cant find
any
info
on
XP sp3, which I am using.

Is there a way to ad this back to XP sp3?

This MS article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

states:
"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add
Bluetooth
Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the
Bluetooth
Devices item in Control Panel."

I have no such option in control panel. Any suggestions?
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Some comments inline:

Vgolfmaster said:
<i>"To install a Bluetooth device, you only have to connect it"</i>

No mention of extra hardware requirements. It is that far of a stretch for
a
reader to question the possibility of a wireless connection for a wireless
device based on this?
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The reason for confusion over this issue is that the term "Bluetooth Device"
is being used to refer to both the transceiver that you plug into your
computer and the remote device that uses it such as a cellphone or printer.
When they say "To install a Bluetooth device, you only have to connect it"
they mean the radio adapter for your computer which must be physically
connected.
<i>"To add a Bluetooth device to your computer, you can use the Add
Bluetooth Device Wizard. To configure a Bluetooth connection, you use the
Bluetooth Devices item in Control Panel."</i>

I have no Bluetooth option in XP (sp3), maybe you might lead me in the
right
direction as to why.
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When your Bluetooth adapter arrives and you connect it, the Add Bluetooth
Device Wizard should put a Bluetooth Devices item in Control Panel.
You can find the original article here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883259

And yes, it does say a Bluetooth device needs to be connected, it does NOT
however specifically say that any hardware other than the Bluetooth device
is
required. You may not see how that can lead a reader into this assumption
that a wireless connection might be possible with no additional hardware,
but
I unfortunately did.
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I don't find it at all surprising that you interpreted the article the way
you did. Microsoft is assuming the reader is familiar with Bluetooth
technology. They fail to give any explanation of the differences between
Bluetooth device, Bluetooth adapter and Bluetooth connection.
 
Hi Lee,

Thanks for reading with an open mind, and addressing the question. I am a
current IT student, and am not the uneducated user that PK seems to wish to
make me out to be.

I agree that the MS article was designed for those much more familiar with
Bluetooth technology, and it most likely needs to be redrafted, or moved
somewhere where it is not accessible to the general public.

Thanks again for the response, and rest easy; my dongle is on the way, lol
 
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