Blocking Unwanted Posters

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Gary Ritter

Is there no way to block certain Unwanted Posters from this group?
Do we need to be subjected to what appears to be pornographic postings or
maybe links to pornographic sites.

Topics like:

My Girls
Lonely Heart

Come on, these are professional Newsgroups, not the World's Oldest
Profession.

Microsoft, Please take care of this ASAP, as it is very offensive and
embarassing having to explain to some why these are being posted here.
 
That's fine but, considering Microsoft's resources, one would think that
these things would never make it into the groups in the first place. Or, if
they do, be removed from all groups simultaneously instead of the seemingly
piecemeal "removed from server" on one group but not the rest.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Beta
P4 D865GBF HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 450gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
 
Sheet. I wrote the following and, just to stay
honest, I tried it. Guess what, there is no news
rule to pick up words in the text. But Microsoft
can do it. And darn well should.

{Yes -- temporarily. Set your Rules to find info @
lenstar.org until they change it. Now, Microsoft
can do that, too. Can't they?}

rs


: Is there no way to block certain Unwanted
Posters from this group?
: Do we need to be subjected to what appears to be
pornographic postings or
: maybe links to pornographic sites.
:
: Topics like:
:
: My Girls
: Lonely Heart
:
: Come on, these are professional Newsgroups, not
the World's Oldest
: Profession.
:
: Microsoft, Please take care of this ASAP, as it
is very offensive and
: embarassing having to explain to some why these
are being posted here.
:
 
OK, In Windows Mail its: Message----->Junk Mail---->Add Senders Domain to
Blocked sender's List.
Time will tell if it works.

Thanks Colin
 
So tell MS. None of us can do much about it.

Peter said:
That's fine but, considering Microsoft's resources, one would think that
these things would never make it into the groups in the first place. Or,
if they do, be removed from all groups simultaneously instead of the
seemingly piecemeal "removed from server" on one group but not the rest.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Beta
P4 D865GBF HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 450gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
Click to expand...
 
yw

Gary Ritter said:
OK, In Windows Mail its: Message----->Junk Mail---->Add Senders Domain
to Blocked sender's List.
Time will tell if it works.

Thanks Colin
Click to expand...
 
I agree those posts shouldn't be here--but MSFT is more interested in
censoring constructive criticism or in the case of a very notable instance
this week, pulling down posts and censoring their own bloggers. Also have
you noticed what is marketed to the pre-teen segment of the market on MSN
Music. The lyrics are considerably "more pornographic from the rap and
hip-hop being proferred by Microsoft and MSN.

I'll illustrate this:

Windows Live Drive Info Pulled by MSFT
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/16/windows-live-drive-info-quickly-deleted-post-from-team-member/

"Stuart Padley is a Microsoft developer who keeps a personal blog here. He
doesn't post very often (his last post was October 2005), but on Sunday he
wrote a post called "Working on Live Drive?" and says that he was hand
picked by Ray Ozzie (or Ray Ozzie's technical assistant, it isn't clear) to
join "a small team of renegade hardcore architect/developer/test types" and
work on Windows Live Drive. The post was quickly deleted, but was noticed.

The original post was at this URL, which is now a dead link. The original
text was cached, of course, and can be viewed at Bloglines here. A screen
shot of the full text is also below.

In addition to talking about joining the team, Stuart also points to
discussions about Live Drive on Wikipedia and Fortune, saying "I don't think
either of these descriptions are correct" but that both contain "elements of
truth". There isn't much more information, although he seems to stress that
this is a hand picked commando team (my words), which suggests that
Microsoft is taking this product seriously. Stuart also say that he'll be
focusing on answering questions about Live Drive on this blog. I'm pretty
sure that won't be happening.

The most interesting aspect of this story is that someone yelled and got the
post pulled down. Microsoft should know there is no better way to get
someone's attention in the blogosphere than pulling down a post. Robert
Scoble calls this "breaking into jail" and I agree. If you are going to give
your developers blogs, let them post. Nothing Stuart wrote was particularly
confidential - we all know this is coming.

I have an email in to Microsoft PR for a comment. No word yet. For
additional backup material, here is our post on Google Drive, and this is
our (now somewhat dated) overview of the online storage space."


Don't Pull Down Posts
http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/08/17/rule-1-dont-pull-down-posts/

http://www.techmeme.com/060817/p8#a060817p8

Actually Gary I could write a Ph.D. thesis comparing MSFT's corporate
posture in a panoply of ways to the World's Oldest Profession. When Ralph
Reed was hired for $27,000 per month who among other things helped Tom Delay
and Jack Abramoff broker sweat shops and slave trade in the Mariana's Island
how else would you have characterized it. Ballmer only fired him when it
hit the Seattle newspapers.

I'd be glad to help you with the red light dynamics here.

Congress--Hookers
Lobbyists for MSFT --Pimps
MSFT --Johns


The pimps are often on K Street which including MSFT PR Flaks at Wagner
Edstrom and McCann Ericson World Wide Pimps although in an unrelated event
Steve Ballmer Protoge was fired for putting up signs on the August Redmond
Campus that said "Pimp Your Office (MSFT sells "It's Hard to be Pimp" that
Grammy Award winning song via MSN music downloads).

Wednesday, April 27, 2005

Microsoft defends ties to Ralph Reed
Critics want conservative consultant fired

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/221811_msftreed27.html

Monday, April 25, 2005

Microsoft retreating in fear of red state retribution "Shall We Call it
Micro-too Soft?"

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/221467_robert25.html

A Bug in Windows GOP
Microsoft is ending its relationship with choirboy-lobbyist Ralph Reed, but
the company's ties to others in the seemingly infinite loop of the
Republican lobbying scandal are deep-in D.C. and Seattle.
http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0522/050601_news_microsoft.php


CH
 
Peter--

It' be more productive to email directly people who are paid real money to
work with MSFT communities--we don't supervise them. If some of us did,
they'd do something a lot closer to real work. Those of us here look for
questions to answer and answers to questions. The only person lately I've
seen post in here and helpfully in other forums on the web from MFST is
Darrell Gorter who works with the MSFT setup team when he has a minute and
feels he can be helpful.

CH

__________________________________
 
However MVP's always use these NG too. They should be aware of the issue at
the very least.
Getting them to do something is another animal all together.
 
That's just for email right?
What about stopping them from the NewsGroups?
I don't think those filters have anything to do with the Newsgroups.
 
MVPs provide invaluable service and education, but it's not the MVPs
responsibility to "tend" the groups. I guess the best advice is however
has been given to block the messages. I just don't click messages that are
obv spam.

CH
 
Chad Harris said:
I agree those posts shouldn't be here--but MSFT is more interested in
censoring constructive criticism or in the case of a very notable instance
this week, pulling down posts and censoring their own bloggers.
*snip*
"Stuart Padley is a Microsoft developer who keeps a personal blog here. He
doesn't post very often (his last post was October 2005), but on Sunday he
wrote a post called "Working on Live Drive?" and says that he was hand
picked by Ray Ozzie (or Ray Ozzie's technical assistant, it isn't clear)
to join "a small team of renegade hardcore architect/developer/test types"
and work on Windows Live Drive. The post was quickly deleted, but was
noticed.

The original post was at this URL, which is now a dead link. The original
text was cached, of course, and can be viewed at Bloglines here. A screen
shot of the full text is also below.

In addition to talking about joining the team, Stuart also points to
discussions about Live Drive on Wikipedia and Fortune, saying "I don't
think either of these descriptions are correct" but that both contain
"elements of truth". There isn't much more information, although he seems
to stress that this is a hand picked commando team (my words), which
suggests that Microsoft is taking this product seriously. Stuart also say
that he'll be focusing on answering questions about Live Drive on this
blog. I'm pretty sure that won't be happening.

The most interesting aspect of this story is that someone yelled and got
the post pulled down. Microsoft should know there is no better way to get
someone's attention in the blogosphere than pulling down a post. Robert
Scoble calls this "breaking into jail" and I agree. If you are going to
give your developers blogs, let them post. Nothing Stuart wrote was
particularly confidential - we all know this is coming.

I have an email in to Microsoft PR for a comment. No word yet. For
additional backup material, here is our post on Google Drive, and this is
our (now somewhat dated) overview of the online storage space."
Click to expand...

Actually, Chad, I have a bit of an inside scoop on this one. Not ENTIRELY
reliable, since the person with the info is someone who hates the guy's
guts, but it follows suit with things that have gone on before. One of the
reasons the post was pulled was because Stuart was NOT a member of a
developement team put together by Microsoft to develope LiveDrive. He was
using this blog post as part of his resume`, which had some false
information in it, and he had sent it around to some competitors in the same
market, and MS pulled it.
 
Maybe so, Raven. I'm not there. If I perpetuated disseminating anything
false by copying posts on Pradley, sorry for that.

Maybe the reason Steve Ballmer's protoge, Martin Taylor left had nothing to
do with signs all over the campus that said "Pimp My Office" while MSFT
sells "It's Hard to Be A Pimp" on their MSN Music site. Maybe the signs
offended them because they thought it was too hard to be a pimp and pimp
your office.

http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/6236

http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/06/locked-doors-martin-taylor-markz-and.html

http://www.proudlyserving.com/archives/2006/06/the_microsoft_c_6.html

Besides being the land of non-intuitive menus, and goofey messages that are
anything but clear and confident--setup on 5472 says upgrade is not
supported very clearly and it is, although I wouldn't trust it, it must be
intriguing to work in a place like this:

"I parked my car, grabbed my stuff, and went to the usual entrance to my
building. I waved my badge, waiting for the prompt click! that unlocks the
door...."

But I have seen them pull comments and postings off several times in the
last year. One minute they were there, and the next not. Downloads as
well. I see them censor and lash out all the time. They preach innovation,
but in fact are very very controlling and vindictive if they think they're
being criticized. That's why Vista is such a lipsticked limping pig right
now at 5472
and their RC1 branches they've been teasing people with all last week,
knowing they would be nailed turkey builds when they dropped and people got
hold of them 56XX, 5506 or whatever. It's sad that RC1 will drop to the
public and then they will slap RC1 on something close to it within less than
a month of that.

And despite all these courses that people don't care how well it functions
on here as long as it's secure, I do believe they will notice, and they will
care.

The last several builds make me wonder what a build has to do to fail
internal testing. But then a company that will pay Ralph Reed $27,000 or so
a month and persist in trying to use Wegner Edstrom and McCann Ericson
Worldwide spin, will release just about anything and call it Windows. Google
Ralph Reed and Abramoff and you'll get the message or just google Ralph Reed
New York Times or Washington Post. Not indicted because the Texas statute
was stupidly allowed to run by so-called experienced attorneys, and the feds
at Gonzales "Justice" are afraid it rattles into the White House so they
ignore it.

Enjoy RC1. The optimisim in the course that maybe the next build will save
everything is delusional.

Robert’s right: Windows Vista needs more time
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=1414

http://news.com.com/2061-11199_3-6100866.html

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/

http://www.longhornblogs.com/

http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/07/31/mclaws-is-right-on-windows-vista-ship-date/

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2006/08/01/windows-vista-just-aint-gonna-be-ready/

http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/05/28/65-more-windows-vista-mistakes/

Perillo's Critique After Allchin Interview and Request from Allchin
http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/05/24/windows-vista-feedback/

Robert [McLaws] and Robert[Scoble] Duh!
http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/08/01/robert-and-robert-duh/

McLaws is Right on Windows Ship Date
July 31, 2006
Robert Scoble MSFT's Most Well Known Blogger on the Planet
VB MVP
MSDN Radio 9 Film Maker


Windows Vista Lipstick on a Pig
http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/07/18/windows-vista-lipstick-on-a-pig/

Groundswell of MSFT MVPs and Major Book Authors --Yo Wakeup Redmond Campus
Vista Teams--Take the several months you need to get this turkey out of
intensive care
or it will die.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Orchant/?p=173

Vista Needs More Time: The Entry I Didn't Want To Write
http://www.longhornblogs.com/robert/archive/2006/07/31/Windows_Vista_Needs_a_Beta_3.aspx


CH
 
Hi,

MVP's do not have any moderator power. We can filter the issues and
inappropriate material back to Microsoft, but cannot directly affect the
group. Sometimes Microsoft acts on the items, sometimes it doesn't. Keep in
mind that while the main newsservers are Microsofts, they are fed by many
others, so removal and blocking of spam is often pointless as the spammers
can just use another point of entry.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
I understand ... and did not want to imply otherwise (or anything negative
against the MVP's... they do a great job). I had just wonder if there might
be some sort of feedback loop from those that support the NG to those that
run it.

Thanks
 
Nope I didn't mean to imply you did. The intent really was to thank them
for the help they give me.

As was said, I think by Rick Rodgers, the multiple ways there are to feed
in, really I guess makes keeping the obvious spam ads, etc. out by some
filter impossible.

CH
 
I got a quickcam messenger, but can't find any drivers, that work with
Vista. I was just wondering if any existed, and if so, where can I find
them.
 
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